Anonymous
Post 03/13/2013 17:41     Subject: New Pope from Argentina
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]what's wrong with conservative[/quote]

Nothing, if you understand that your personal conservatism should never be forced upon others.[/quote]

Unlike you who wants to force your liberalism on others? Truth is that church is growing around the world away from crazy leftist wackos in the USA like you. [/quote]

How can you jump to "crazy leftist wackos"? Step Back, Rush, and reread your own post.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2013 17:40     Subject: New Pope from Argentina
Anonymous wrote:I am Argentine of Spanish and Italian descent, but call myself Latina sometimes. Why can't I? This pope is just as Argentine as half the people I know here, why are you calling him Italian? Did he apply for citizenship? Not that I know of. Also, he speaks Italian like an Argentine.


Do you mean he speaks Spanish, Argentina's national language. I guess he speaks lots of languages but Spanish is Argentinas national language.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2013 17:39     Subject: New Pope from Argentina
I was rooting for "Cardinal Sean" of Boston, but this one will have to do. At least it wasn't Cardinal Weurl, who was mentioned more in the last couple of days as dark-horse because of his "efficient but won't rock the boat managerial style." But that means that Washington is stuck with him for a while longer.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2013 17:34     Subject: Re:New Pope from Argentina
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He was raised in Argentina, is a citizen of South America and speaks native Spanish. So he is South American. Why is this even a discussion?




Yes, he is South American - which is not the same as Latino. This is like calling a Boer an "African".


I remember when Theresa Hienz Kerry, who was born in Africa, ruffled some politically correct feathers when she called herself "African-American."

Shows how increasingly useless these labels are.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2013 17:32     Subject: New Pope from Argentina
Anonymous wrote:I am Argentine of Spanish and Italian descent, but call myself Latina sometimes. Why can't I? This pope is just as Argentine as half the people I know here, why are you calling him Italian? Did he apply for citizenship? Not that I know of. Also, he speaks Italian like an Argentine.

+1
Let everyone call themselves whatever they want. Why should you care?
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2013 17:30     Subject: Re:New Pope from Argentina
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He was raised in Argentina, is a citizen of South America and speaks native Spanish. So he is South American. Why is this even a discussion?




Yes, he is South American - which is not the same as Latino. This is like calling a Boer an "African".


Had to google boer to see what you mean. The word means farmer. English fought a war with them in 1900, but such a nationality does not exist. Can you elaborate?
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2013 17:27     Subject: New Pope from Argentina
I am Argentine of Spanish and Italian descent, but call myself Latina sometimes. Why can't I? This pope is just as Argentine as half the people I know here, why are you calling him Italian? Did he apply for citizenship? Not that I know of. Also, he speaks Italian like an Argentine.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2013 17:18     Subject: New Pope from Argentina
Is this all you people have to quibble about... the Pope's ethnicity? And the report that there shall be no more refusal by any wayward Argentinian priests, to baptize children of single parents?
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2013 17:06     Subject: New Pope from Argentina
Anonymous wrote:My guess is that there are a lot of people that still don't understand that Latino, Hispanic, and South American are different things.

I think Pres. Obama put it well, and said something along the lines of "historic to have a pope from The Americas."



A well crafted response from a smart politician - accurate statement with language that no one can quibble about.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2013 16:56     Subject: Re:New Pope from Argentina
Anonymous wrote:He was raised in Argentina, is a citizen of South America and speaks native Spanish. So he is South American. Why is this even a discussion?




Yes, he is South American - which is not the same as Latino. This is like calling a Boer an "African".
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2013 16:56     Subject: Re:New Pope from Argentina
Anonymous wrote:He was raised in Argentina, is a citizen of South America and speaks native Spanish. So he is South American. Why is this even a discussion?


Because some fool thought that was enough to make him a Latino.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2013 16:55     Subject: New Pope from Argentina
My guess is that there are a lot of people that still don't understand that Latino, Hispanic, and South American are different things.

I think Pres. Obama put it well, and said something along the lines of "historic to have a pope from The Americas."
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2013 16:52     Subject: Re:New Pope from Argentina
He was raised in Argentina, is a citizen of South America and speaks native Spanish. So he is South American. Why is this even a discussion?
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2013 16:50     Subject: New Pope from Argentina
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can't fathom caring.

+1

Lots of old white men up there. What? No black Catholics? No Asian Catholics?



One of the most influential cardinals is from Ghana. Another from Philipines. Get your facts straight. Biggest growth of the church is in Africa.


Yes, I know that. So, why has there never been a black pope? And why, amongst ALL those faces standing next to the pope, we're there. I people of color?


The new pope is Latino.


I think you mean "Italian."
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2013 16:48     Subject: New Pope from Argentina
Anonymous wrote:As an American Catholic, I have to say that I could not possibly care less who is elected Pope. It won't change one thing. I personally know of many parish priests who love their faith but don't have much respect for the institutional church. They pay it lip service because they have to but then turn around and openly welcome gay people, young couples who live together out of wedlock, etc into their parishes. The "church" is not the Vatican, it is the people. I am grateful that we still have parish priests like this who in their quiet way subvert daily the ridiculous, outdated nonsense that comes out of the Vatican and the American Conference of Bishops.


Thank you for this. There are a lot of kind, compassionate, and forward-looking Catholic lay people. But I don't really understand the necessity of the institution - especially one that is so clearly regressive and antiquated.