Thanks for your insight! I don't know the GBRS but given the report card, I would assume a low score. I will email the AART to ask next week.

Anonymous wrote:I have a very mixed feeling about the AAP now. My child is in pool based on NNAT as well as FAT, but the report card is horrible horrible... nothing spectacular. Will the general classroom be better for him?
Maybe a WISC to find out his true IQ?

As a parent reading these threads (no special expertise), I have taken away that you don't really need a great report card for AAP admission. I think some parents have found that their children flourished once in AAP and they were just not engaged in the regular classroom. Or maybe schoolwork isn't his/her thing right now but it would be the same in either setting. If report card is horrible now then no reason to think that the regular classroom is a great place for your DC anyway. If he/she gets into AAP why not give it a try? You can always switch back if needed. Most on these threads seem to be saying wait for WISC if you truly need it for appeal, but it's always an option either way if you simply want more info, including maybe some advice from a professional on what could be holding your DC back from making his/her best academic efforts. I would think you have a very bright kid if DC is in pool from both NNAT and FAT! Barring any extensive prepping for the tests of course. Do you know the GBRS?

I have a very mixed feeling about the AAP now. My child is in pool based on NNAT as well as FAT, but the report card is horrible horrible... nothing spectacular. Will the general classroom be better for him?
Maybe a WISC to find out his true IQ?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers and AARTS have been known to post once or twice. But they get discouraged pretty quickly by the parents who attack whenever they hear anything that they don't want to believe. For what it's worth, you'd have to have your head in the sand (or be new to these threads) not to know that kids who get into the pool based on a high NNAT alone are less likely to get into the program than those who get into the pool based on a high CogAT. Just look at the threads from 2012 and 2011.

Could be true. A friend's boy received very high NNAT but very low score of verbal section of CogAT (20th%) and 80s % for math and 90s something for nonverbal. He did not get in the program even with appeal.

Same here. My daughter got into the pool with a high NNAT (137), middling CogAt (120 composite), and GBRS 12. We had to appeal. Got in with a Full Scale on the WISC of 130.

Anonymous wrote:Then parent should say-so instead of writing as an authority. Or cite publicly available information that supports such. Highly doubtful that any fcps official with actual knowledge of the process is even on DCUM. Hover, a lot of insightful folks are, and they usually cite their source.

There was someone (who seemed) knowledgeable posting in the past who mysteriously described herself/himself as being "inside the system." Sorry, I don't have time to hunt for the thread to post the link! And a caveat that I am just a random parent saying this.

Anonymous wrote:Teachers and AARTS have been known to post once or twice. But they get discouraged pretty quickly by the parents who attack whenever they hear anything that they don't want to believe. For what it's worth, you'd have to have your head in the sand (or be new to these threads) not to know that kids who get into the pool based on a high NNAT alone are less likely to get into the program than those who get into the pool based on a high CogAT. Just look at the threads from 2012 and 2011.

Could be true. A friend's boy received very high NNAT but very low score of verbal section of CogAT (20th%) and 80s % for math and 90s something for nonverbal. He did not get in the program even with appeal.

Teachers and AARTS have been known to post once or twice. But they get discouraged pretty quickly by the parents who attack whenever they hear anything that they don't want to believe. For what it's worth, you'd have to have your head in the sand (or be new to these threads) not to know that kids who get into the pool based on a high NNAT alone are less likely to get into the program than those who get into the pool based on a high CogAT. Just look at the threads from 2012 and 2011.

Then parent should say-so instead of writing as an authority. Or cite publicly available information that supports such. Highly doubtful that any fcps official with actual knowledge of the process is even on DCUM. Hover, a lot of insightful folks are, and they usually cite their source.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are you getting the support that the FxAT holds more weight than the NNAT or that NE speakers have to have a high FxAT? I think this is just your opinion, and you have nothing to support it and should clarify such when you post.

+1

-1 I'm not the poster being chastised but think it goes without saying that most posting here are simply parents who have gleaned some knowledge of the process through their own reading, conversations with other parents and school staff, and personal experience. Or what if the poster did have some inside knowledge? Would you want to discourage them from posting in the future by attacking them and demanding that they cite their source? If just asking if a source can be cited why not do so in a more neutral way.

Anonymous wrote:Where are you getting the support that the FxAT holds more weight than the NNAT or that NE speakers have to have a high FxAT? I think this is just your opinion, and you have nothing to support it and should clarify such when you post.

+1

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How good are theses chances, 126 NNAT, 97 VQN FAT, 12 GBRS?

We're the same:
126 NNAT
97 VQN (99 V, 73 Q, 99 N)

Don't know GBRS, but teacher was encouraging us to consider AAP before we got FxAT, so I have to think it will be strong. I'm pretty confident that DC will be in.

Yes, likely to have an even higher GBRS than my DD's 12. Hopefully they're both in .

Anonymous wrote:How good are theses chances, 126 NNAT, 97 VQN FAT, 12 GBRS?

We're the same:
126 NNAT
97 VQN (99 V, 73 Q, 99 N)

Don't know GBRS, but teacher was encouraging us to consider AAP before we got FxAT, so I have to think it will be strong. I'm pretty confident that DC will be in.

Where are you getting the support that the FxAT holds more weight than the NNAT or that NE speakers have to have a high FxAT? I think this is just your opinion, and you have nothing to support it and should clarify such when you post.

Anonymous wrote:18:05 here, Thank you very much for the thoughtful responses.

Me again, some more info. The 97% is b/c of strong verbal, 98. The others, 88 quant. And 91 NV. Are good, but by themselves would not make pool. Anyway, we'll see what happens. I am less certain than some here. If make program we'll keep in base school, but if not in program, likely to be in class anyway, so does it really matter?

18:05 here, Thank you very much for the thoughtful responses.