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Anonymous wrote:The only times I get really judge-y about people buying dogs are designer mutts (hybrid genetics are not as predictable as the cutesy website wants you to think, and there are literally NO standards for the health/conformation of the dogs) and people who "don't have time" to adopt, as if the couple of weeks it might take to find an adoptable dog is the most time-consuming part of pet ownership.

Oh, and GSDs/Malinois. Soooooo many people buying them who have no business doing so. I predict they will overtake pit bull types in shelters soon.

At our shelter there are two gorgeous purebred GSDs who look like perfection and are calm and just look out while sitting versus the dogs around them barking/jumping. I find that strange since I hear GSDs can be very crazy.

What shelter? We are beginning our search for anther GSD.

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Anonymous wrote:Responsible breeders will take their dogs back for life and provide them a home if at any point the owner is not able to.

While it might be viewed as more "ethical" to rescue a dog, purchasing a dog from a responsible breeder does not contribute to over population.

Please explain.

Because the breeder takes responsibility for homing the dog for life.

Which affects the dog overpopulation in what way? It may give one dog (or however many dogs the breeder takes responsibility for) a guarantee of a home. It has absolutely no effect on the problem of pet overpopulation. The breeder is still producing dogs, when dogs need homes elsewhere.

Probably the better term is overpopulation of unwanted dogs.

Every single self-righteous shelterdog owner out there better for darn sure never have biological children of their own. there are thousands and thousands of children in need of good homes, right?

Actually no, there are not thousands and thousands of children in need of good homes. You might try talking to some couples who are trying to adopt.

adopt babies not children. Wednesday's child on NBC features a child that needs a home - foster kids are available.

I hate people like you. Have you ever talked to an adoptive parent of a teen? Those of us who choose to adopt, can also choose to adopt a baby. We don’t have to save the world.

^Definitely.

Also, people who want a specific type of puppy from breeders feel similarly.

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Anonymous wrote:Responsible breeders will take their dogs back for life and provide them a home if at any point the owner is not able to.

While it might be viewed as more "ethical" to rescue a dog, purchasing a dog from a responsible breeder does not contribute to over population.

Please explain.

Because the breeder takes responsibility for homing the dog for life.

Which affects the dog overpopulation in what way? It may give one dog (or however many dogs the breeder takes responsibility for) a guarantee of a home. It has absolutely no effect on the problem of pet overpopulation. The breeder is still producing dogs, when dogs need homes elsewhere.

Probably the better term is overpopulation of unwanted dogs.

Every single self-righteous shelterdog owner out there better for darn sure never have biological children of their own. there are thousands and thousands of children in need of good homes, right?

Actually no, there are not thousands and thousands of children in need of good homes. You might try talking to some couples who are trying to adopt.

adopt babies not children. Wednesday's child on NBC features a child that needs a home - foster kids are available.

I hate people like you. Have you ever talked to an adoptive parent of a teen? Those of us who choose to adopt, can also choose to adopt a baby. We don’t have to save the world.

We have one purebred dog and one mutt of the same breed (rescued him after someone found him wandering the streets of a major city, malnourished and ill). People think they're both purebred but the rescue is not, he is mixed with a couple of breeds. I agree with you that it's no one's business how or why we came to acquire our dogs. Usually people ask me which breeder we used because they're both beautiful, well trained, and well behaved. Also, one we had before that was a purebred we got from a rescue specializing in that breed. So how do judgy people judge those ones?

Anonymous wrote:I mean, I have a purebred dog - but he’s a beagle so no one would assume I went to a breeder. There are so many sweet, loving purebred dogs (shoutout to hounds, who are the best!) in shelters and rescues if you are willing to look.

However, although I am a big proponent of adopting rescue dogs - I only judge people who buy puppies from puppy mills or pet stores.

Same. I've fostered and have had rescues in the past. My current personal dog is from a breeder and I have zero problem with legitimate breeders or people who buy from them. For various reasons, it's been a better fit for my family at this point in time.

Puppy mills and pet stores need to go though.

I mean, I have a purebred dog - but he’s a beagle so no one would assume I went to a breeder. There are so many sweet, loving purebred dogs (shoutout to hounds, who are the best!) in shelters and rescues if you are willing to look.

However, although I am a big proponent of adopting rescue dogs - I only judge people who buy puppies from puppy mills or pet stores.

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Anonymous wrote:It is a bit ironic when most of the people are not adopting their kids out of foster care before having them.

It’s hypocritical is what it is.

Most of the kids in foster care are not eligible for adoption. Their parents still have parental rights and will get their kids back eventually. There is not this huge list of kids out there waiting to be adopted. Adopting is expensive and time consuming and not a sure thing. Ask anyone who has struggled with infertility and gone down this route.

Actually there is a huge list. And, many are available but they don't terminate rights and orphan kids until they have an adoptive family in place. The issue is people want newborns and infants, not older kids and teens. Its completely hypocritical to tell someone to get a dog from the shelter but not a kid.

I will pay for a dog when we get one as I don't want to deal with the issues one would come with.

I did adopt my kid. So, I know all about adoption but personally and professionally.

Anonymous wrote:My favourite dog is a king Charlie’s cavalier. They lost don’t end up in shelters, so I buy from a reputable breeder.

What breeder?

My favourite dog is a king Charlie’s cavalier. They lost don’t end up in shelters, so I buy from a reputable breeder.

We have one of each. We will never do the rescue thing again. The first year was more expensive than our pure bred first year

Our 2 purebred golden retrievers are rescues. We got one as a puppy and one at 6 months old. They are 12 and 8 yrs old now.

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Anonymous wrote:It hits a nerve because loving dogs are put to sleep by the thousands every.single.day. Great dogs that are waiting in shelters, by no fault of their own (mutts and purebreds). We have a rescued Yorkie, with many health issues, and a large hound mix with no health problems. I could never adopt from a breeder, and most good people I know couldn't either, maybe you're all missing the empathetic gene. And perhaps very selfish.

Completely agree. I have three dogs, all from shelters. I would NEVER consider buying from a breeder. It’s completely selfish. You can get any type of dog from a shelter, you just have to be patient and may have to travel. if you buy from a breeder, you are allowing other dogs in shelters to be euthanized. Go ahead , flame away, but that is the reality.

You might not be able to see from the advantage of your high horse, but you are contributing to puppy mills.

Yes, it’s true. That’s who is supplying your precious shelter dogs.

Rescuing dogs from shelters is not contributing to puppy mills. When you are rescuing a dog from a shelter you are saving it from being killed. Quite obviously you don’t really care about that though

Where do you think those adoptable dogs come from?

Reputable breeders’ dogs don’t fill dog shelters; puppy mill dogs do. If you think about it a little, I’m sure you’d figure out why shelters are being fed by puppy mills just like pet stores are.

I guess it’s simpler to scream, “aDoPt dOn’T sHoP!!”

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Anonymous wrote:It hits a nerve because loving dogs are put to sleep by the thousands every.single.day. Great dogs that are waiting in shelters, by no fault of their own (mutts and purebreds). We have a rescued Yorkie, with many health issues, and a large hound mix with no health problems. I could never adopt from a breeder, and most good people I know couldn't either, maybe you're all missing the empathetic gene. And perhaps very selfish.

Completely agree. I have three dogs, all from shelters. I would NEVER consider buying from a breeder. It’s completely selfish. You can get any type of dog from a shelter, you just have to be patient and may have to travel. if you buy from a breeder, you are allowing other dogs in shelters to be euthanized. Go ahead , flame away, but that is the reality.

You might not be able to see from the advantage of your high horse, but you are contributing to puppy mills.

Yes, it’s true. That’s who is supplying your precious shelter dogs.

Rescuing dogs from shelters is not contributing to puppy mills. When you are rescuing a dog from a shelter you are saving it from being killed. Quite obviously you don’t really care about that though

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Anonymous wrote:It is a bit ironic when most of the people are not adopting their kids out of foster care before having them.

It’s hypocritical is what it is.

Most of the kids in foster care are not eligible for adoption. Their parents still have parental rights and will get their kids back eventually. There is not this huge list of kids out there waiting to be adopted. Adopting is expensive and time consuming and not a sure thing. Ask anyone who has struggled with infertility and gone down this route.

Anonymous wrote:It hits a nerve because loving dogs are put to sleep by the thousands every.single.day. Great dogs that are waiting in shelters, by no fault of their own (mutts and purebreds). We have a rescued Yorkie, with many health issues, and a large hound mix with no health problems. I could never adopt from a breeder, and most good people I know couldn't either, maybe you're all missing the empathetic gene. And perhaps very selfish.

My thoughts exactly. Also for all of the comments along the lines of "but I want a dog with a known personality", adopting a puppy from a breeder is always a crap shoot. Older dogs with already established personalities are available by the hundreds at shelters.