Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The characteristics of a sociopath

http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

He's a sociopath.

Thanks for the link. I've been called that too on DCUM. It's quite fitting I think but I don't see a big deal of being labelled as such.

-Jon250+

Jon, this thread is actually not about you and your 250+, it is about Lance Armstrong.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you don't have OWN, you can watch it online:

http://ownspecial.oprah.com/lancearmstrong.html

How about when he admitted to calling the one teammate's wife a liar and a bitch, but felt compelled to say that he hasn't called her fat?

Well, the first two are criticisms of behavior. If she's a liar and a bitch, that's fair game. But fat is a physical observation, so it's not really the quite thing. Even if she is fat, you don't acknowldge that. She knows it. Being fat is worse than being a liar or a bitch.

I'd rather be fat, honest, and kind than a skinny bitch.

We're not talking about you, honeybuns. Besides, it sounds like this woman in question is a fat, lying, bitch. He just didn't point out the fat part.

nope, Betsy is not fat at all. And not lying. Although I don't know enough about her to say whether she is a bitch or not.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really don't demonize him for doping, if everyone was doing it and it was the culture, then it's really not a big deal. He did what he had to do to level the playing field. If he was the only one doping, that would have been a different story.

The part about going after his accusers is what I take offense with. Not idiots like Floyd Landers and his cohorts but innocent people like the masseuse.

I agree. Not every doper went after innocent people and tried to ruin them. Shoot, his former personal assistant, Mike Anderson, had to move to New Zealand to start over.

New Zealand is an upgrade.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you don't have OWN, you can watch it online:

http://ownspecial.oprah.com/lancearmstrong.html

How about when he admitted to calling the one teammate's wife a liar and a bitch, but felt compelled to say that he hasn't called her fat?

Well, the first two are criticisms of behavior. If she's a liar and a bitch, that's fair game. But fat is a physical observation, so it's not really the quite thing. Even if she is fat, you don't acknowldge that. She knows it. Being fat is worse than being a liar or a bitch.

I'd rather be fat, honest, and kind than a skinny bitch.

We're not talking about you, honeybuns. Besides, it sounds like this woman in question is a fat, lying, bitch. He just didn't point out the fat part.

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Anonymous wrote:His take on it: win at all costs, you come after me I come after you. It's all in the game. Lance Armstrong = Stringer Bell. Plenty of folks in prison with attitudes like his.

No. Stringer Bell is HOT. Lance Armstrong looks like a weasel.

Also, 4 pages and NO ONE has said, at least he had the ball to admit to doping? NO ONE?

LOL

Anonymous wrote:He isn't a sociopath, he's a classic narcissist. They're scary as Hell. I feel the worst for his kids. The psychological damage he's done to his kids is colossal.

It's not either or. One can be both sociopathic and narcissistic.

A sociopath is often well liked because of their charm and high charisma, but they do not usually care about other people. They think mainly of themselves and often blame others for the things that they do. They have a complete disregard for rules and lie constantly. Their extreme egocentricism makes them do whatever they must to get what they want without regard for other people. Their character flaw seldom makes them feel guilt or learning from punishments. They always justify their actions. Though some sociopaths have become murders, most reveal their sociopathy through less deadly and sensational means.

I'd say this fits....

Anonymous wrote:I really don't demonize him for doping, if everyone was doing it and it was the culture, then it's really not a big deal. He did what he had to do to level the playing field. If he was the only one doping, that would have been a different story.

The part about going after his accusers is what I take offense with. Not idiots like Floyd Landers and his cohorts but innocent people like the masseuse.

I agree. Not every doper went after innocent people and tried to ruin them. Shoot, his former personal assistant, Mike Anderson, had to move to New Zealand to start over.

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Anonymous wrote:I've disliked Lance ever since he left his first wife. No strength of character there. Do whatever is expedient to get ahead, that's his motto.

THANK YOU! Me, too, and IIRC, he left Sheryl Crow when she got cancer! I don't understand anyone who hasn't thought he was an emotionless dick.

no - I despise Lance but the two of them broke up before she got cancer and it was never clear whether it was a mutual breakup or not. I also got the impression that Lance's breakup with his wife was mutual but I don't know much about it.

Anonymous wrote:The characteristics of a sociopath

http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

He's a sociopath.

Thanks for the link. I've been called that too on DCUM. It's quite fitting I think but I don't see a big deal of being labelled as such.

-Jon250+

Anonymous wrote:So I wonder if Sally Jenkins is going to write another "Lance is a good man and nothing short of murder is going to convince me otherwise" column.

Yes! She has deleted her twitter account (@sallyjenx). Can only assume that it was related to this interview.

One positive... he sure looked good. If you could look past the "smarminess", he IS one good-looking fella; a la Ted Bundy only without that little thing called murder.

Anonymous wrote:If you don't have OWN, you can watch it online:

http://ownspecial.oprah.com/lancearmstrong.html

How about when he admitted to calling the one teammate's wife a liar and a bitch, but felt compelled to say that he hasn't called her fat?

Truly bizarre!

I always wanted to believe that he wasn't doping but all the REAL hardcore cyclists I know said he was. It's just impossible to win the Tour 7x without at least blood doping/EPO, hGH, steroids... Something. It's just way, way too hard.


I'm glad Greg LeMond is the best American cyclist again.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:His take on it: win at all costs, you come after me I come after you. It's all in the game. Lance Armstrong = Stringer Bell. Plenty of folks in prison with attitudes like his.

I heart you

That is such an insightful and accurate comparison.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:His take on it: win at all costs, you come after me I come after you. It's all in the game. Lance Armstrong = Stringer Bell. Plenty of folks in prison with attitudes like his.

No. Stringer Bell is HOT. Lance Armstrong looks like a weasel.

Also, 4 pages and NO ONE has said, at least he had the ball to admit to doping? NO ONE?

No matter what he did, you don't go after a man's balls. That's hitting below the belt..HA!