You're being totally disingenuous.

For three years (two years of the payroll tax, one year with make work pay), payroll taxes have been lower. Now they are higher. You can argue that it was only a "holiday" and you would be right. But it is similarly true that the "holiday" was intended to put more money into people's paychecks so they'd spend more and stimulate the economy. Naturally, people become accustomed to having that additional money. It's been more than 1,000 days now since taxes were at a higher level. So it's understandable that people are surprised and complaining a bit. I can't remember what my paycheck was like 1,000 days either. Can you?"

NP here. You honestly can say that you didn't think that payroll taxes would go back to their norm? That's disingenuous

TOTAL HOUSEHOLD INCREASED TAX BURDEN: $3674 in 2013 or $306 a month

+ Raise : $22,000
- Wife going PT at work: - $12,000
- Tax increase: $3674
- Nanny costs going up: - $2000
+ Paying off cars with bonus: $7800
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Net: +$12K

Anonymous wrote:The rich starts at 450k and this tax hike affects those under that. They should make the payroll deductions permanent under 450k. Someone should start a petition

Your solution is that only income over $450,000 is taxed to find the social security trust fund? OK then. Any other idiocy you'd like to propose?

yet, no one talks much about the tax CUT we got 4 years ago. But we can no longer starve that fund, either.

It's a crap scenario all around, but it isn't wrong to point out that this is just going back to the rates that had been in place in the not too distant past. Much like the damn tax rates that people were and are bitching about for the top tax bracket.

This is the same roundabout argument about the distribution of wealth and percentage of taxes paid by these segments.

Actually, come to think of it, it's been more four years (two years make work pay, two years of payroll tax cut) and 1,400 days.

Yeah, it's a tax hike.

Anonymous wrote:Ok, I don't usually scream on this forum, but THIS IS NOT A TAX HIKE YOU MORONS.

Bitching about having to pay payroll taxes once again is like waking up on December 26 (and 27 and 28 etc.) and bitching because Santa didn't come AGAIN.

Your paycheck isn't "increasing" it is "returning to what it would have been if Obama hadn't given you a tax holiday."

And by the way, if you're on this forum, you can afford it.

If you earn enough to stop paying in to SS before the ned of the year, you are rich.

You're being totally disingenuous.

For three years (two years of the payroll tax, one year with make work pay), payroll taxes have been lower. Now they are higher. You can argue that it was only a "holiday" and you would be right. But it is similarly true that the "holiday" was intended to put more money into people's paychecks so they'd spend more and stimulate the economy. Naturally, people become accustomed to having that additional money. It's been more than 1,000 days now since taxes were at a higher level. So it's understandable that people are surprised and complaining a bit. I can't remember what my paycheck was like 1,000 days either. Can you?

I am missing the holiday, for sure, on my salary of almost 70K. However, I am happy to pay SS to assist the most needy and vulnerable in our society, many of whom paid into the pot for 40+ years themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:$475/month ughhh. Axe those stupid payroll programs I am not going to use them.

You are very rich then.

wrong, 450k is rich, it's the law.

The rich starts at 450k and this tax hike affects those under that. They should make the payroll deductions permanent under 450k. Someone should start a petition

We're losing $239 a month. It sucks.

funny how all these people with jobs are crying over 2% while there are some many people that are jobless and wish they had some income...2% decrease and all.

Lets see.... Moved from fairfax to Montgomery. Now I'm paying higher state taxes and the piggy back county tax. My car is an 04, so my personal property was next to nothing. And then factor in the 2% and the increase in health care. My check went down about $300 from this pay cycle last year. I knew it was going to be bad, but not this bad.

FICA limit went up from 110K to 113.7K in 2013, so people with higher incomes will now pay additional 6.2% on 3.7K as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Calculate it weekly and it's much easier to stomach. Most of us can stomach a $30 increase. Pack your lunch a couple times a week or cook dinner at home one additional night a week. Done.

I posted this article today on FB - I was just trying to be helpful. http://www.thebudgetdiet.com/cut-your-spending-by-400-a-month

Seriously, there are ways to cut your budget, but people prefer to bitch and whine. I need to practice what I preach on the budget cutting side (as in buckle down and actually do some of the stuff in this article), but I'm not going to sit here and feel sorry for myself when I know that this is just the way it is. I prefer people not go hungry or get sick just so I can eat out more than I should. It really is a very simple change in perspective.

Anyone else see the irony in this approach?

cutting your monthly expenses to fit your new HHI that was what it should have been all along? MOST spend to their maximum ability. And when those paychecks went up a couple years ago (tax CUT), they spent the money rather than saved it. So now they are pissed (blaming a tax HIKE, when the reality is that this is where their taxes were previously). But most spend on things they don't need to. There are ALWAYS ways to trim back budgets. We make in the low-6 figures, and we are constantly looking for ways to be better about our spending habits and increase our savings.

Thanks 16:41.

Some of you need to start looking a little more closely at your paystubs. There are other deductions that you may have maxed out toward the end of last year that are starting up again for 2013.

And 16:36? Call me when you turn 65. I'm pretty sure you'll be on Medicare.