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Anonymous wrote:My child is "Max." Sorry lady, but my child will shout it to the world and there is nothing you can do about it.

My kids are older but still curious why you feel this way. You don't think it is mean to take away someone's fun, joy, excitement? I don't mind at all that you don't believe. We have very good frineds who don't believe in santa. It just seems a common courtesy, respectful, and neighborly to let the kids who believe, believe. When our last one discovered the truth, i just said there might be kids who still believe so this is not something you need to share. He was okay with that. We never said he had to lie. Again, i am not sure why the non-santa believers can't just have their views and let the santa believers have their views. Why should one 5 year old make another 5 yr old cry - why does he/ she get to crush someone eles's spirit of joy. The world is tough enough as we see everyday. I wish everyone joy wherever they can find it -- without hurting someone else.

Your child has a right to believe and mine has a right not to believe. Why must my child be quiet about it and yours can't? He doesn't believe, he has a voice, he has a belief. I tell him to keep it quiet, others will find out later but come on, he is 5, he can't keep a secret. Don't punish him for it.

Good lord, you're one of "those people" aren't you.

Do you believe in hell? That's where you need to go.

When you're that defensive about something, you should ask yourself why.

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Anonymous wrote:My child is "Max." Sorry lady, but my child will shout it to the world and there is nothing you can do about it.

My kids are older but still curious why you feel this way. You don't think it is mean to take away someone's fun, joy, excitement? I don't mind at all that you don't believe. We have very good frineds who don't believe in santa. It just seems a common courtesy, respectful, and neighborly to let the kids who believe, believe. When our last one discovered the truth, i just said there might be kids who still believe so this is not something you need to share. He was okay with that. We never said he had to lie. Again, i am not sure why the non-santa believers can't just have their views and let the santa believers have their views. Why should one 5 year old make another 5 yr old cry - why does he/ she get to crush someone eles's spirit of joy. The world is tough enough as we see everyday. I wish everyone joy wherever they can find it -- without hurting someone else.

Your child has a right to believe and mine has a right not to believe. Why must my child be quiet about it and yours can't? He doesn't believe, he has a voice, he has a belief. I tell him to keep it quiet, others will find out later but come on, he is 5, he can't keep a secret. Don't punish him for it.

Good lord, you're one of "those people" aren't you.

Do you believe in hell? That's where you need to go.

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Anonymous wrote:My child is "Max." Sorry lady, but my child will shout it to the world and there is nothing you can do about it.

My kids are older but still curious why you feel this way. You don't think it is mean to take away someone's fun, joy, excitement? I don't mind at all that you don't believe. We have very good frineds who don't believe in santa. It just seems a common courtesy, respectful, and neighborly to let the kids who believe, believe. When our last one discovered the truth, i just said there might be kids who still believe so this is not something you need to share. He was okay with that. We never said he had to lie. Again, i am not sure why the non-santa believers can't just have their views and let the santa believers have their views. Why should one 5 year old make another 5 yr old cry - why does he/ she get to crush someone eles's spirit of joy. The world is tough enough as we see everyday. I wish everyone joy wherever they can find it -- without hurting someone else.

Your child has a right to believe and mine has a right not to believe. Why must my child be quiet about it and yours can't? He doesn't believe, he has a voice, he has a belief. I tell him to keep it quiet, others will find out later but come on, he is 5, he can't keep a secret. Don't punish him for it.

Good lord, you're one of "those people" aren't you.

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Anonymous wrote:My child is "Max." Sorry lady, but my child will shout it to the world and there is nothing you can do about it.

My kids are older but still curious why you feel this way. You don't think it is mean to take away someone's fun, joy, excitement? I don't mind at all that you don't believe. We have very good frineds who don't believe in santa. It just seems a common courtesy, respectful, and neighborly to let the kids who believe, believe. When our last one discovered the truth, i just said there might be kids who still believe so this is not something you need to share. He was okay with that. We never said he had to lie. Again, i am not sure why the non-santa believers can't just have their views and let the santa believers have their views. Why should one 5 year old make another 5 yr old cry - why does he/ she get to crush someone eles's spirit of joy. The world is tough enough as we see everyday. I wish everyone joy wherever they can find it -- without hurting someone else.

Your child has a right to believe and mine has a right not to believe. Why must my child be quiet about it and yours can't? He doesn't believe, he has a voice, he has a belief. I tell him to keep it quiet, others will find out later but come on, he is 5, he can't keep a secret. Don't punish him for it.

Anonymous wrote:My child is "Max." Sorry lady, but my child will shout it to the world and there is nothing you can do about it.

My kids are older but still curious why you feel this way. You don't think it is mean to take away someone's fun, joy, excitement? I don't mind at all that you don't believe. We have very good frineds who don't believe in santa. It just seems a common courtesy, respectful, and neighborly to let the kids who believe, believe. When our last one discovered the truth, i just said there might be kids who still believe so this is not something you need to share. He was okay with that. We never said he had to lie. Again, i am not sure why the non-santa believers can't just have their views and let the santa believers have their views. Why should one 5 year old make another 5 yr old cry - why does he/ she get to crush someone eles's spirit of joy. The world is tough enough as we see everyday. I wish everyone joy wherever they can find it -- without hurting someone else.

OP I would sweat this. Kids either believe or don't believe in Santa. My oldest child has not bought the Santa story since she was 3 years old. She is a gifted myth buster and debunks any fairy tale, magic trick, disney ride or mythical thing based on her own logic no matter what we say. My youngest is the opposite. His sister has been telling him that his toys aren't really alive and that mommy puts the present but not Santa since he was 3 but at 5 he is still a firm believer.

People who ruin it for others are assholes, plain and simply.

I don't care that you don't or that you teach your child he does not exist. OR that you are a religion that doesn't celebrate Santa.

It's not that hard to say to your child, even a small one, "Janey celebrates Christmas and we don't. Our family doesn't believe in Santa. But, it is not nice to tell Janey that he is not real." Or some version of that. Yeah, some kids will be jerks for the sake of being so. But, teaching your child a little courtesy is not that difficult.

I truly think some of you just simply enjoy ruining it for others. And, it's not any more difficult thant that.

Eleven should read believe.

We have taught our children to respect all people and cultures. If I learn my Dc did something to rub Santa in someone's face, I'd seek professional assistance how to remedy this disgusting bigotry. Use Santa for Good and please know deeply religious people don't do the Christmas thing.

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, and my child feels sorry for them.

I am Christian and it is when people read this stuff they think all Christians think the same way. My kids have never felt sorry for any kid who doesn't eleven in Santa. They feel sorry for any and all kids whose beliefs are disrespected. We recently learned if you admit you elieve in Santa and verbally defend his existence - it is a hate crime.

Anonymous wrote:1. Santa has nothing whatsoever to do with religion.
2. If you choose not to let your kid participate in it (all fine obviously), you don't have to be an ass about it, here or anywhere else.
That's all.

I agree with you, PP. My mom is the card carrying Santa Claus investigator. She wanted to prove her point of view to the kids. We on DCUM forum call that acting like a jerk. She is a card carrying, cross on her back bearing, Holy Water human sprinkler system, Catholic.

Posters, you and your family are welcomed to say and do anything you want. Please don't be surprised if people see you for what you are - a jerk. Please do not act shocked when people defend Santa's existence. That is not racial attack if you are not a Santa believer. That is a group decision you could be acting like a jerk. It is protected by the First Amendment for you to say whatever you want but, there is no amendment that says people have to like what you say if it is mean spirited and hurtful - like my MOM's comments. she freely admits and laughs now about how she realizes she thought these kids were stupid.

Yeah, and my child feels sorry for them.

This thread is so funny to me. Don't your kids go to school with Jews or Muslims? Kids who don't celebrate Christmas know Santa's not real

Well if you choose to treat your kids as though they were adults don't be an ass about it either. Some people actually embrace the innocence of a child... They'll grow up soon enough.

Anonymous wrote:I'm the one who said to tell her Max is full of shit. On second thought, I would just say that Santa only exists for those who believe in him. If Max says he isn't real, that's because Max doesn't believe in him, but as long as you do believe, Santa is real.

Thank you for actually being respectful, guess you did not want to be on the naughty list. But seriously, handle it like this. My child is in kindergarten and does not believe in santa. I do not care. However, when he goes to school and the teacher talks about santa this and santa that (out of my control), he will say santa is not real. I can not help that, nor would I want to. He comes home saying that so and so still believes in santa and I say that is fine, some people believe in different things. It is ok for both sides to be respectful but honestly, my child shouts out to people that they are black, fat, scary, and there is no santa. They are learning and they are kids, they have no filters.

Anonymous wrote:No need to apologize, OP, but what would you like me to tell my DD, when we are of a religion that doesn't celebrate Christmas? That Santa is real and brings presents to all the good little children, but only if they're christian? She's 4. That might break her heart. So to counter the ENDLESS December presence of Santa and presents and Christmas, I am guilty of telling her Santa isn't real. I hope she won't break the news to your little one at school or elsewhere, but she deserves not to feel excluded... And trust me, I've thought heavily of just celebrating Christmas in a secular way, but it just doesn't seem right...

Yes thank you PP. I am one of the PPs who said to get over yourself. This was my point.