Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why is it my job to pay the waitor

Because that is the default for how our wage laws are crafted. If it were not for gratuity, wait staff would be covered under the Dept of Labor's Fair Labor Standards Act (TLSA) and would be required to be paid minimum wage. Minimum wage is $7.25. Wait staff are often paid as little as $5/hr and expected to make up the difference for their labor in gratuities. If this didn't happen, then minimum wage would be enforced and the prices for restaurants would rise 150+% higher than they currently are to appropriately compensate the wait staff

Are you forgetting this is america?
Our onions are picked by less than minimum wage illegal farm workers. Walmart uses contracting companies as cleaning staff and they are below min wage workers. Amusement parks and cruise ships do not really pay a real wage,
You can work as a coal miner and damage your health permanently as a curtesy to your employer and get paid a pittance.
Oh, you eat chocolate, the cocoa beans were harvested by children in africa working iin the sun, your clothing is sowed by. No-money-earning workers in a far-off country, brothels have child workers etc etc
Slavery is not a new concept

I suggest everyone get a minimum wage, and am happy to give up eating in restaurants to do so. Only ones crying will be the big corprations with their lost profits. Mitt romney will never allow them to suffer

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish tipping were illegal. It is a pain. I'd vote for any candidate who said they would make tipping illegal.

Fine - then you should be ok with a huge increase in your food prices when eating out, because restaurant owners will have to actually pay their servers a wage. Right now, servers basically make $0 per hour after taxes and every dollar they make is from tips. So, are you ok with a 20% increase in the amount you pay at a restaurant. You are cheap and should just eat at home.

I definitely do not have a problem with this and neither do the customers. It would make much easier. And menus would have honest prices. Some actually do need to know how much something costs before buying.
I suspect the wait staff are the ones who oppose this the most. Currently the tax you pay on your earnings do not really reflect your actual income

You 20% post tax tipper, keep up the good work so I can keep doing 15% pre tax. You guys complete me!

Anonymous wrote:I wish tipping were illegal. It is a pain. I'd vote for any candidate who said they would make tipping illegal.

Fine - then you should be ok with a huge increase in your food prices when eating out, because restaurant owners will have to actually pay their servers a wage. Right now, servers basically make $0 per hour after taxes and every dollar they make is from tips. So, are you ok with a 20% increase in the amount you pay at a restaurant. You are cheap and should just eat at home.

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What about alcohol, are you supposed to tip on that? My hubby can easily add $15 to our total with his beers. We've been tipping on it, because it's easier, but just wondered what is the right way?

Why in the world would you not tip for alcohol? Of course you should - don't you tip at a bar if you get a drink? As someone that waited a ton of tables in college and grad school, I can't believe this would even be a question for you.

I usually tip on the post-tax amount but the numbers are small enough that it doesn't make much difference.

I wish tipping were illegal. It is a pain. I'd vote for any candidate who said they would make tipping illegal.

Wow. People are so rude and stingy and clearly haven't ever worked in the restaurant industry. I think everyone needs to have a food service job for at good six months. You really get to know the true nature of people in that industry.

Tom Sietsema says pre-tax and 20% standard.

Pre tax, because that is the commonly accepted amount. You people tipping post taxes are messing it up for everyone else.

exactly, I think $1 is super cheap when the pizza guy/gal has braved traffic, thieves and snow to get the pizza to you safely, lol

Anonymous wrote:For good service I'll tip post-tax 20% at least. Some of my ILs were servers and I've seen how hard they worked & how little they made, and yeah they did have to tip the busboys/assistants/expeditors etc.

I am also a mystery shopper & had the same experience with companies who will only reimburse the 15% amount, but I was still 'allowed' to tip more than that. I know there's tons of companies and they're all different and have their reqs so sure, that could happen. I did have one mystery shop company that only reimbursed $1 for a carryout or delivery shop which I thought was super cheap. I could give them whatever I wanted but would only be reimbursed for the $1 by the co. I would give even the pizza guy at least two or three dollars, for one pizza lol.

Especially if you had to shop more than once from the same place. $1 would pretty much guarantee your next pizza had "extra toppings."

For good service I'll tip post-tax 20% at least. Some of my ILs were servers and I've seen how hard they worked & how little they made, and yeah they did have to tip the busboys/assistants/expeditors etc.

I am also a mystery shopper & had the same experience with companies who will only reimburse the 15% amount, but I was still 'allowed' to tip more than that. I know there's tons of companies and they're all different and have their reqs so sure, that could happen. I did have one mystery shop company that only reimbursed $1 for a carryout or delivery shop which I thought was super cheap. I could give them whatever I wanted but would only be reimbursed for the $1 by the co. I would give even the pizza guy at least two or three dollars, for one pizza lol.

Pre tax. The tax has nothing to do with the service, why should I tip on it? Servers in DC with the crazy 10% tax don't deserve more than servers in places without sales taxes.

Sorry tips is given if service exceeds expectations. So do that and you will get one.