Anonymous
Post 08/05/2012 11:51     Subject: Elementary school starts at 9:15?!?! Rant

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids in aftercare are looked down upon by the kids who go home at normal dismissal time, my children tell me. They were panicked last year when dw was considering going back to work that they would be lumped in with "those kids."


And people wonder why the mommy wars will never go away. What a shitty thing to say.


I'm just telling you how the school dynamics themselves are. I didn't make this up.


Look, kids only think this because parents like you are telling your kids things like this. It's the parents fault, why should the kids even care unless their parents are being assholes about it?
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2012 11:42     Subject: Elementary school starts at 9:15?!?! Rant

Anonymous wrote:So apparently every public elementary school in my vicinity begins at 09:15.. I'm actually shocked that this is even allowed considering that 99% of normal jobs begin no later than 9:00. I mean my job is flexible but come one... Its like a scam to get EVERYONE to pay before care. Has anyone made a fuss about this?


This is totally normal and how it has been for years - it is because of the bus schedule. High school picks up first, then middle school, finally elementary school. Schools end in a staggered schedule as well.
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2012 11:27     Subject: Re:Elementary school starts at 9:15?!?! Rant

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Yes i'm saying just aftercare is better than before and after care (or the reverse) both logistically and financially. Its clear to me that theres no way to avoid some people having to do some kind of care but why force EVERY parent to do before care. It doesn't make sense to me.

And yes earlier start time woud at least allow the possibility of staggering schedules. At 9:15 its a wash! Who can be there at 9:15?


The whole area doesn't work on your schedule. There ae plenty of jobs that start before 8 am, so regardless of start time, the fanily will need before care, and after 10 am, so before care isnt likely to ever be an issue. Basically, OP wants the schools to cater to her schedule, not the schedule that works est for the school system or even the schedule that works best for most people or the families that can least afford Childcare.


Do you read? I have flexible work schedule... I can come in at 6AM up until 9AM which is the start time of the VAST MAJORITY of the US. Translation: the hours of 09:15 are not accomadating the most people. Point black period!
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2012 11:23     Subject: Re:Elementary school starts at 9:15?!?! Rant

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Yes i'm saying just aftercare is better than before and after care (or the reverse) both logistically and financially. Its clear to me that theres no way to avoid some people having to do some kind of care but why force EVERY parent to do before care. It doesn't make sense to me.

And yes earlier start time woud at least allow the possibility of staggering schedules. At 9:15 its a wash! Who can be there at 9:15?


The whole area doesn't work on your schedule. There ae plenty of jobs that start before 8 am, so regardless of start time, the fanily will need before care, and after 10 am, so before care isnt likely to ever be an issue. Basically, OP wants the schools to cater to her schedule, not the schedule that works est for the school system or even the schedule that works best for most people or the families that can least afford Childcare.


Survey showing >80% of the population works a normal 9 to 5...

http://moss07.shrm.org/TemplatesTools/Toolkits/Documents/art3full.pdf

Anonymous
Post 08/05/2012 10:36     Subject: Re:Elementary school starts at 9:15?!?! Rant

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Yes i'm saying just aftercare is better than before and after care (or the reverse) both logistically and financially. Its clear to me that theres no way to avoid some people having to do some kind of care but why force EVERY parent to do before care. It doesn't make sense to me.

And yes earlier start time woud at least allow the possibility of staggering schedules. At 9:15 its a wash! Who can be there at 9:15?


The whole area doesn't work on your schedule. There ae plenty of jobs that start before 8 am, so regardless of start time, the fanily will need before care, and after 10 am, so before care isnt likely to ever be an issue. Basically, OP wants the schools to cater to her schedule, not the schedule that works est for the school system or even the schedule that works best for most people or the families that can least afford Childcare.
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2012 10:14     Subject: Elementary school starts at 9:15?!?! Rant

Anonymous wrote:
I suspect some of the OP's outrage derives from the fact thatlike a lot of us, the OP may have bought into the myth that these things get easier and cheaper once kids hit elementary school. Wrong!


Not sure how I would be thinking that when DC was enrolled in private school... which still has separate summer school obligation...

So we have a poster here who just dreams up scenarios about forum members and posts them... pathetic....

Address the facts, make logical arguments but don't dream up fantasy!
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2012 10:06     Subject: Re:Elementary school starts at 9:15?!?! Rant

Anonymous wrote:But PP (or are you OP) if school starts at 8:15 then it is out at about 2:15. Would't most people still need aftercare? Even if you go to work at 8 you wouldn't be home till 4 or 4:30 with commuting time....

Are you thinking it would be better for kids to only need aftercare but not before care?

Or are you trying to stagger schedules?


Yes i'm saying just aftercare is better than before and after care (or the reverse) both logistically and financially. Its clear to me that theres no way to avoid some people having to do some kind of care but why force EVERY parent to do before care. It doesn't make sense to me.

And yes earlier start time woud at least allow the possibility of staggering schedules. At 9:15 its a wash! Who can be there at 9:15?
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2012 10:02     Subject: Elementary school starts at 9:15?!?! Rant

Anonymous wrote:Kids in aftercare are looked down upon by the kids who go home at normal dismissal time, my children tell me. They were panicked last year when dw was considering going back to work that they would be lumped in with "those kids."


I have never seen or heard this. Kids at our schoold love the automatic daily playdates that aftercare provides. Even on days I don't work, one of mine will often ask to go to aftercare because of some event or another they have planned.
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2012 09:46     Subject: Re:Elementary school starts at 9:15?!?! Rant

Anonymous wrote:But PP (or are you OP) if school starts at 8:15 then it is out at about 2:15. Would't most people still need aftercare? Even if you go to work at 8 you wouldn't be home till 4 or 4:30 with commuting time....

Are you thinking it would be better for kids to only need aftercare but not before care?

Or are you trying to stagger schedules?


Let's face it. Relying on after care is so much less stressful than relying on before care.

Anonymous
Post 08/05/2012 09:41     Subject: Elementary school starts at 9:15?!?! Rant

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids in aftercare are looked down upon by the kids who go home at normal dismissal time, my children tell me. They were panicked last year when dw was considering going back to work that they would be lumped in with "those kids."


And people wonder why the mommy wars will never go away. What a shitty thing to say.


I'm just telling you how the school dynamics themselves are. I didn't make this up.
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2012 09:40     Subject: Elementary school starts at 9:15?!?! Rant

Anonymous wrote:Kids in aftercare are looked down upon by the kids who go home at normal dismissal time, my children tell me. They were panicked last year when dw was considering going back to work that they would be lumped in with "those kids."


And people wonder why the mommy wars will never go away. What a shitty thing to say.
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2012 09:33     Subject: Elementary school starts at 9:15?!?! Rant

Kids in aftercare are looked down upon by the kids who go home at normal dismissal time, my children tell me. They were panicked last year when dw was considering going back to work that they would be lumped in with "those kids."
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2012 09:31     Subject: Re:Elementary school starts at 9:15?!?! Rant

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, I think you just need to suck it up and do before care for gods sake. Your rant is obnoxious. It's public school. It has started around 9ish for the past 40 some odd years (and even longer I'm sure). You just deal with it. Move it you do not like it. Try private and pay through the nose. And, no I'm not a stay at home mom. My kids are in aftercare bc my schedule is to work later. So I do end up paying for the care b/c I have to. If I didn't work we could not live here, so I work. You really need to figure out how to do this now b/c it's for the next 13 years.


Your obnoxious too but thanks for the input


Thanks. I like being obnoxious. The rest of you are idiots in my opinion. I simply can't believe most of what is written on this board. Most of DCUM lives in La la land. I'm still looking for the real people. AND, there are posts FAR worse than mine all over this board. So go to stinking HECK!!!!!!
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2012 08:35     Subject: Re:Elementary school starts at 9:15?!?! Rant

Anonymous wrote:You have to be suggesting longer hours. Schools are usually about 6 or 6.5 hours per day. If you work 8 hours a day and commute, you WILL NEED aftercare unless you and your spouse stagger hours.


Some idiot parents do in fact support longer school days. For all the wrong reasons.
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2012 08:08     Subject: Re:Elementary school starts at 9:15?!?! Rant

You have to be suggesting longer hours. Schools are usually about 6 or 6.5 hours per day. If you work 8 hours a day and commute, you WILL NEED aftercare unless you and your spouse stagger hours.