Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's chipotle. Sorry but anyone there has already given up on civilization. When you go to mcdonalds version of a Mexican restaurant youngive up the right to complain. About anything.

On the contrary, I have the absolute right to enjoy my Big Mac in peace or my burrito or whatever. And if some self-absorbed parent can't shut her brat up, they need to leave.

Actually, no you don't. When you go out in public you have to deal with other members of the public. If you want to eat in total peace take your meal home.

No, see. You're the one disturbing the peace. Take that to extreme, and who will the police arrest?

Now I think you're just trolling and spoiling for a fight. Because if you're for real this is basicaly a sociopathic view of things.

Shut your brat up. Physically if you need to. Stop disturbing other people.

I think some of you are being a bit harsh. I kind of find it laughable the way our society is towards kids. It's like be seen but not heard.

If they cry on the airplane, people bitch. If they cry at the grocery store, people bitch. If they cry at a restaurant, people bitch. They are kids for goodness sakes! Kids are going to cry, and you know what? There are times when they can't be home or with a sitter.

I have a bigger problem with the assholes who talk on the phone and don't realize that others can hear their whole conversation, or the loud people. I can understand kids not being happy and cute 100% of the time.

OP sounds like a child, no wonder her husband works 12 hours a day and makes her stay silent. I would too.

No food in the house? Careful, some DCUMer might call CPS on you.

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because you're not the center of the universe so you must learn to deal with adversity. i'm there to teach you a lesson or two about patience, empathy and tolerance.

if eating off the floor is an option for you good. it's not for me. please stop assuming that everybody is like you. we're not. thanks heaven we're NOT.

So everyone else who isn't like you has to learn to deal with adversity and "lesson teaching" -- but not you? Interesting.

I was at Chipoltle today watching porn and I got the stink eye. What was I doing wrong? Should I have worn headphones?

Anonymous wrote:Look, whatever the details, OP and her family had just as much of a right to be there as anyone else. There are always going to be people (adults and kids alike), everywhere, that others will perceive as annoying. At the very instant that the man was giving OP the stink eye, he may have also been *getting* the stink eye from another patron because of his bad body odor, or because he elbowed someone in line, etc. The point is that if you expect parents to stay cooped up in their homes because their kids *might* cry or whine for a minute or two at a restaurant and annoy you, then you might as well stay cooped up in your house, too, because I guarantee you have been the source of annoyance for others (maybe because you were talking loudly on your phone, or maybe you were smoking in a doorway, etc.)

OP here and THIS

Anonymous wrote:OP, if anyone gave me the stink eye I would laugh really loud in their face.

That said, tend to any crying individual immediately, regardless of age! Do you blame the child for not wanting to sit there? Call me what you will, but Dh and I did not go to restaurants until the children were old enough to grasp manners. It depends on the child, but it is NOT infant or toddler age.

Totally this. I've got 3 kids, 6, 3, and 13 months, and I never put up with any screaming antics at restaurants, be it McDonald's or the Ritz. If the kids act up, they get the MOMMY stink eye, which is pretty powerful. If they decide to defy me after that, their butts are whisked out until they calm down and get their act together. There's no reason a bratty child should upset other people's time to enjoy eating their meal. And putting an iPhone/movie in front of the child is a quick band-aid, I get that, but what about the bigger picture here? The child needs to understand that screaming is unacceptable at restaurants, period. If the parents don't get that, and aren't willing to teach their children that, then they should just order take-out or delivery. Sheesh.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Next time, remove your kid, take her outside, to the car and you will avoid the stinky eye. Simple.

and you'll hold my infant for me?

note that DH tries to help but infant and toddler are going through a phase that both will only be content on mom's lap. we're still adjusting. we can try to reason with the toddler but as some of you know it doesn't help. and unless DH is wearing a shirt bathed in breastmilk and my swat the infant won't stop screaming on his lap.

I posted at the bottom of the first page and will offer a couple of scenarios.
1. When you went out with the iPhone, take the toddler with you. (You didn't say that infant was also melting down)
2. Send DH out with the iPhone to load it, with one or both kids with him.
3. One adult leave with both kids, the other stay to get the check and the food to go.

In all cases, smile and apologize to the other customers. "Sorry, bad day in toddler-ville today!" Acknowledge that you and your family were disruptive as you were also actively trying to fix the situation. From an outsider's perspective, watching an adult walk away from a screaming toddler probably didn't look like you were dealing with it.

As for the whole "it was only Chipotle" thing, that's a pretty elitist attitude from all posters. For many people, Chipotle or restaurants of its similar caliber are the only dining-out treat that they can afford. Or, it's the closest thing to their office for a quick respite from the workday. Doesn't mean they don't have at least a reasonable expectation of civilized behavior.

thanks for putting it in such a nice way. i really appreciate it. we're frequent in that place, the owner knows us and when we walk in he always rushes one of the guys to prepare a table with 2 highchairs for us. he knows our orders so when our turn comes in line he asks "are you having your favorites?" he knows by heart how we make our bowls. that's why we come back. it's a family friendly place, there are always several families there and we often go after 2pm because there's nobody there. DD wakes up from her nap and we go there for lunch.

like i said before we sit all the way in the back, close to the bathroom where there's a back exit so if we need to rush out we can do it easily. just today i could not do it because i was *gasp* feeding my NB in the sling. (i bet someone will flame me for NIP now LOL) anyway, i just grabbed the phone and ran to load the movie, it was the quickest way to get DD's attention and she only melted down because she thought i was walking away. i told her i would be right back and as soon as she saw me walking back she stopped. it didn't take more than 10 seconds, seriously. the way the guy looked at me (i was already embarrassed enough) made me feel so ashamed... the anger came only later on. really, who does that to someone who's already embarrassed and trying to fix the mistake? who does that?

but he'll have his own kids and he'll remember this day... don't we all remember one thing or other about judging parents when we were young and single when our kids act out?

Anonymous wrote:If my kids ever acted up while we were out eating I would tend to it immediately. If I couldn't get the situation under control and my kid continued to throw a tantrum, scream or whatever thereby disrupting other patrons we would leave immediately.

Not sure what giving someone the stink eye is going to accomplish and it's annoying. However, I think people in general get fed up by having their meal, maybe the only peaceful time in their work day, disrupted by someone's bratty child.

I agree, and this is how we generally functioned when my daughter was younger. I'm not sure how much peaceful time you can expect at a Chipotles for lunch though. It's not a fine dining experience.

Look, whatever the details, OP and her family had just as much of a right to be there as anyone else. There are always going to be people (adults and kids alike), everywhere, that others will perceive as annoying. At the very instant that the man was giving OP the stink eye, he may have also been *getting* the stink eye from another patron because of his bad body odor, or because he elbowed someone in line, etc. The point is that if you expect parents to stay cooped up in their homes because their kids *might* cry or whine for a minute or two at a restaurant and annoy you, then you might as well stay cooped up in your house, too, because I guarantee you have been the source of annoyance for others (maybe because you were talking loudly on your phone, or maybe you were smoking in a doorway, etc.)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's chipotle. Sorry but anyone there has already given up on civilization. When you go to mcdonalds version of a Mexican restaurant youngive up the right to complain. About anything.

On the contrary, I have the absolute right to enjoy my Big Mac in peace or my burrito or whatever. And if some self-absorbed parent can't shut her brat up, they need to leave.

Actually, no you don't. When you go out in public you have to deal with other members of the public. If you want to eat in total peace take your meal home.

Anonymous wrote:OP, you didn't by any chance recently apply for a job as a High Profile Nanny in NY, did you?

with an infant? BWAHAHAHA no i didn't. BTW, after this little guy, if nannying was the last job on earth and i was starving i'd starve. sorry. my kid is the last kid i'll care for for a long long time.

why you ask? is there something going on on the nanny forum and i'm missing it?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Next time, remove your kid, take her outside, to the car and you will avoid the stinky eye. Simple.

and you'll hold my infant for me?

note that DH tries to help but infant and toddler are going through a phase that both will only be content on mom's lap. we're still adjusting. we can try to reason with the toddler but as some of you know it doesn't help. and unless DH is wearing a shirt bathed in breastmilk and my swat the infant won't stop screaming on his lap.

I posted at the bottom of the first page and will offer a couple of scenarios.
1. When you went out with the iPhone, take the toddler with you. (You didn't say that infant was also melting down)
2. Send DH out with the iPhone to load it, with one or both kids with him.
3. One adult leave with both kids, the other stay to get the check and the food to go.

In all cases, smile and apologize to the other customers. "Sorry, bad day in toddler-ville today!" Acknowledge that you and your family were disruptive as you were also actively trying to fix the situation. From an outsider's perspective, watching an adult walk away from a screaming toddler probably didn't look like you were dealing with it.

As for the whole "it was only Chipotle" thing, that's a pretty elitist attitude from all posters. For many people, Chipotle or restaurants of its similar caliber are the only dining-out treat that they can afford. Or, it's the closest thing to their office for a quick respite from the workday. Doesn't mean they don't have at least a reasonable expectation of civilized behavior.

Anonymous wrote:You are obnoxious, OP. Maybe not in your original post, but in all your responses, it's pretty obvious. I'm the mom of a 2 year old. I ding consider it anyone else's problem to find another place to eat when MY child acts up. WE leave if that happens because WE are the problem. And no, people do not need to be subjected to lessons in adversity from you on their lunch break, or whatever other justification you've given for why you were right and the guy glaring at you was wrong. You should have asked for a bag, packed it up, and eaten in your car if she was acting up and there was no food at your house. By the way, that's not an excuse either. That, too, is YOUR fault.

i never said it was not my fault. what i questioned is people's intentions when they give the STINK eye to someone who's embarrassed trying to fix a very bad situation. do they really think their glare will help the parent out? or they do this just because they're mean?

OP, you didn't by any chance recently apply for a job as a High Profile Nanny in NY, did you?