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Anonymous wrote:how much more transparent can it be. my goodness every possible opportunity is given to kids to get in... if they are qualified.

It looks like kids get in who aren't that qualified either - their parents just know what they need to do.

This is AAP in a nutshell!

Life is like that. As adults (some of us anyway) we can work hard and not rely on luck, fairness, or the competence of bureaucrats. We can make our own successes. As parents our kids can't so we do whatever we can to help them on the path of a good life. It's what my parents did for me, thankfully. For the rest, good luck!

I spoke to a mom this weekend whose kid was not accepted. I was surprised because this kid is smart and motivated. Asked her if she was had appealed the decision. She said no, the committee had spoken and that was good enough for her. An amazing breath of fresh air after reading this board for awhile now- can you imagine someone actually willing to take no for an answer? I believe this kid will do very well in life and may wind up doing better than many who got in.

I don't doubt this at all -- I'm sure its true.
But, that is not the question. The question is, would this kid fare better down the road having had the AAP program, vs not?
We're not comparing 2 different kids -- compare the same kid in 2 different environments.

Its a judgement call. And there is no right answer.

But why appeal if they will do just as well without it? Bragging rights?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:how much more transparent can it be. my goodness every possible opportunity is given to kids to get in... if they are qualified.

It looks like kids get in who aren't that qualified either - their parents just know what they need to do.

This is AAP in a nutshell!

Life is like that. As adults (some of us anyway) we can work hard and not rely on luck, fairness, or the competence of bureaucrats. We can make our own successes. As parents our kids can't so we do whatever we can to help them on the path of a good life. It's what my parents did for me, thankfully. For the rest, good luck!

I spoke to a mom this weekend whose kid was not accepted. I was surprised because this kid is smart and motivated. Asked her if she was had appealed the decision. She said no, the committee had spoken and that was good enough for her. An amazing breath of fresh air after reading this board for awhile now- can you imagine someone actually willing to take no for an answer? I believe this kid will do very well in life and may wind up doing better than many who got in.

I don't doubt this at all -- I'm sure its true.
But, that is not the question. The question is, would this kid fare better down the road having had the AAP program, vs not?We're not comparing 2 different kids -- compare the same kid in 2 different environments.

Its a judgement call. And there is no right answer.

It's a moot point - the kid didn't get in. So we'll never know now will we? Any other anawer is just speculation.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:how much more transparent can it be. my goodness every possible opportunity is given to kids to get in... if they are qualified.

It looks like kids get in who aren't that qualified either - their parents just know what they need to do.

This is AAP in a nutshell!

Life is like that. As adults (some of us anyway) we can work hard and not rely on luck, fairness, or the competence of bureaucrats. We can make our own successes. As parents our kids can't so we do whatever we can to help them on the path of a good life. It's what my parents did for me, thankfully. For the rest, good luck!

I spoke to a mom this weekend whose kid was not accepted. I was surprised because this kid is smart and motivated. Asked her if she was had appealed the decision. She said no, the committee had spoken and that was good enough for her. An amazing breath of fresh air after reading this board for awhile now- can you imagine someone actually willing to take no for an answer? I believe this kid will do very well in life and may wind up doing better than many who got in.

I don't doubt this at all -- I'm sure its true.
But, that is not the question. The question is, would this kid fare better down the road having had the AAP program, vs not?
We're not comparing 2 different kids -- compare the same kid in 2 different environments.

Its a judgement call. And there is no right answer.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:how much more transparent can it be. my goodness every possible opportunity is given to kids to get in... if they are qualified.

It looks like kids get in who aren't that qualified either - their parents just know what they need to do.

This is AAP in a nutshell!

Life is like that. As adults (some of us anyway) we can work hard and not rely on luck, fairness, or the competence of bureaucrats. We can make our own successes. As parents our kids can't so we do whatever we can to help them on the path of a good life. It's what my parents did for me, thankfully. For the rest, good luck!

I spoke to a mom this weekend whose kid was not accepted. I was surprised because this kid is smart and motivated. Asked her if she was had appealed the decision. She said no, the committee had spoken and that was good enough for her. An amazing breath of fresh air after reading this board for awhile now- can you imagine someone actually willing to take no for an answer? I believe this kid will do very well in life and may wind up doing better than many who got in.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:how much more transparent can it be. my goodness every possible opportunity is given to kids to get in... if they are qualified.

It looks like kids get in who aren't that qualified either - their parents just know what they need to do.

This is AAP in a nutshell!

Life is like that. As adults (some of us anyway) we can work hard and not rely on luck, fairness, or the competence of bureaucrats. We can make our own successes. As parents our kids can't so we do whatever we can to help them on the path of a good life. It's what my parents did for me, thankfully. For the rest, good luck!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:how much more transparent can it be. my goodness every possible opportunity is given to kids to get in... if they are qualified.

It looks like kids get in who aren't that qualified either - their parents just know what they need to do.

This is AAP in a nutshell!

So the letters are supposed to be mailed on July 2. We got the Level 3 letters early. I wonder if the appeal letters will come early...

GBRS 9, WISC 132

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Anonymous wrote:how much more transparent can it be. my goodness every possible opportunity is given to kids to get in... if they are qualified.

It looks like kids get in who aren't that qualified either - their parents just know what they need to do.

BWAHAHAHAHA!

it is funny how so many kids sail right in without knowing or even caring and the thier parents never make a big deal of it, and others are wringing thier hands with angst bemoaning the "lack of transparency," asking where to take the Wisc, etc. Oh dear, life isn't always fair!

No, not fair. Anything ever been unfair to you?

Anonymous wrote:There is no big secret about the committee. It is made up of principals, vice principals, AARTs, etc. They sit in a big room with tables of 6. The file is passed around the table and reviewed by each person. After someone reviews the file, they decide whether the child is eligible or ineligible and indicate that decision on an individual piece of paper that is put in the back of the file. After the last person at the table makes their decision, all of the decisions are reviewed. If there are more eligible, the student is eligible. If there are more ineligible, the student is ineligible. If there is a tie, the file is passed on to another table of 6 (and even another if necessary) until the tie is broken. The committee members do not know the decisions that the other people at their table made, so that they can make their own determination without influence.

You know an awful lot about this! I wonder how you happened to be so blessed with this information?

No it isn't and it will come right back to you one day. Best of luck to all, we are only trying to do our best.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:how much more transparent can it be. my goodness every possible opportunity is given to kids to get in... if they are qualified.

It looks like kids get in who aren't that qualified either - their parents just know what they need to do.

BWAHAHAHAHA!

it is funny how so many kids sail right in without knowing or even caring and the thier parents never make a big deal of it, and others are wringing thier hands with angst bemoaning the "lack of transparency," asking where to take the Wisc, etc. Oh dear, life isn't always fair!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:how much more transparent can it be. my goodness every possible opportunity is given to kids to get in... if they are qualified.

It looks like kids get in who aren't that qualified either - their parents just know what they need to do.

BWAHAHAHAHA!

Anonymous wrote:how much more transparent can it be. my goodness every possible opportunity is given to kids to get in... if they are qualified.

It looks like kids get in who aren't that qualified either - their parents just know what they need to do.

how much more transparent can it be. my goodness every possible opportunity is given to kids to get in... if they are qualified.

Anonymous wrote:It does sound fair. And I have heard there is an oversight committee that looks at the files another time. With the initial process plus the appeals process, I will never understand how so many think that their child wasn't given fair consideration.

http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/pdfs/localplan/AttachmentQQNotice2401.pdf

4/9/12-4/13/12 Convene oversight committee.
4/23/12-4/26/12 Notify local schools and mail letters of AAP Level IV
eligibility or ineligibility to parents or guardians.
5/1/12-5/11/12 Host AAP Level IV orientations for new students
and parents or guardians.
4/30/12-5/14/12 Receive and process permission forms from
parents or guardians of students eligible for
AAP Level IV placement, assign eligible students
to AAP Level IV sites, assign transportation, and
notify parents or guardians and cluster assistant
superintendents of fall placement.
5/1/12-6/8/12 Determine candidates for 2012-13 elementary
part-time school-based services.
5/7/12-6/1/12 Receive and process AAP Level IV appeals
(due by June 1, 2012).
6/1/12-6/8/12 Mail notification of eligibility for part-time
school-based services to parents or guardians.
6/6/12-6/13/12 Convene Level IV appeals committee.
7/2/12 Mail Level IV appeal decisions to parents or
guardians and local schools.