Anonymous
Post 04/24/2012 22:04     Subject: Re:TJ admission statistics from 2012
Anonymous wrote:US students need to boost their STEM IQ, not foreign students. Why are we filling these slots with foreigners who already excel in these areas?

A significant majority of TJ students are US citizens or permanent residents. The slots are not being filled with "foreigners." If you have any data to the contrary, please present them.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2012 21:57     Subject: Re:TJ admission statistics from 2012
Anonymous wrote:
There are frequent audits. But since most of the crap on this board is just plain false not much happens.

Almost all the asians (mostly Korean and Indian) are born & raised here. They do culturally value education above all else and it shows on the standardized tests. As a pink guy I'll push my kids to do more rather than knock others down for trying too hard. Really, what's so bad about studying hard and doing more than the minimum required?


For many here pushing hard and doing more than the minimum required is only justified for lacrosse, soccer, swimming and tennis; and not math, reading, and writing.


The difference is that those working hard at sports are also working hard at school all day. They study hard at school all day, then train in their sport, then go home and do their homework. They are pushing their minds and their bodies to excellence. There is an old saying: "A strong mind in a strong body."
Only paying attention to the mind and neglecting the body can result in poor health. You might be surprised to know how many TJ students are also excellent athletes! They actually don't spend all their time studying, but spend hours each week working at their sports. I wouldn't be surprised if their athletic activity helps them to use their study time more efficiently.

Here's a link to TJ's athletic site. Take a look and see that it is possible to be a great student and a strong athlete at the same time.

http://www.colonialathletics.org/
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2012 21:55     Subject: TJ admission statistics from 2012
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Almost all the asians (mostly Korean and Indian) are born & raised here.


source?


My kids are Asian sometimes (they're mixed) they were born & raised here. Most of their friends are Asian and all are born here. I don't know if the publish birth places anywhere but the majority of the minority that's in the majority in TJ is born here I'm sure.

To the complainers: What is your solution? Limit yellow people? Quotas? Eliminate the merit based tests and give it to the politically correct class?
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2012 21:18     Subject: Re:TJ admission statistics from 2012
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-m-gentile/learning-already-from-the_b_1210344.html
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2012 21:09     Subject: Re:TJ admission statistics from 2012
US students need to boost their STEM IQ, not foreign students. Why are we filling these slots with foreigners who already excel in these areas?
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2012 20:51     Subject: TJ admission statistics from 2012
There are ESL teachers at other county schools as well. But, the number of students they serve is insignificant compared to the entire student population in most schools.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2012 20:43     Subject: Re:TJ admission statistics from 2012
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Almost all the asians (mostly Korean and Indian) are born & raised here.


so what accounts for their very heavy accents and the need for ESL teachers at TJ? Anyone born here, by age 15, speaks accentless, colloquial English and doesn't need an ESL teacher. So I question whether this is true.


How many heavy accent students have you met at TJ? That is news to me. Some may be there because they immigrated here late.. some may be kids of diplomats.. there could be many reasons.

This is the DC Urban board, right? and you all know that places like Harvard, Yale, Stanford are about 25% Asian American these days? That doesn't even account for the international students that are in a separate category. If you've been to a top college these days, you will have seen Asian students. My husband and I are both Asian American, graduated from an Ivy, and virtually all of our friends from NoVA are TJ graduates. Many of them are also Asian, born and raised here, working as professionals all across the country. Another interesting note is that non of them are engineers, mathematicians, or scientists. They are lawyers, bankers, humanities professors, and even philosophers.




(a) This was a response to the poster who said they were born here, which you confirm by saying most all of them you know were born here, so why do they need to hire an ESL teacher at TJ if these kids are all born here?
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2012 20:27     Subject: Re:TJ admission statistics from 2012
Certifies why primary and secondary school training in math and science is the foundation for honing problem solving and critical thinking skills allowing individuals to excel in the humanities and liberal arts!
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2012 19:47     Subject: Re:TJ admission statistics from 2012
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Almost all the asians (mostly Korean and Indian) are born & raised here.


so what accounts for their very heavy accents and the need for ESL teachers at TJ? Anyone born here, by age 15, speaks accentless, colloquial English and doesn't need an ESL teacher. So I question whether this is true.


How many heavy accent students have you met at TJ? That is news to me. Some may be there because they immigrated here late.. some may be kids of diplomats.. there could be many reasons.

This is the DC Urban board, right? and you all know that places like Harvard, Yale, Stanford are about 25% Asian American these days? That doesn't even account for the international students that are in a separate category. If you've been to a top college these days, you will have seen Asian students. My husband and I are both Asian American, graduated from an Ivy, and virtually all of our friends from NoVA are TJ graduates. Many of them are also Asian, born and raised here, working as professionals all across the country. Another interesting note is that non of them are engineers, mathematicians, or scientists. They are lawyers, bankers, humanities professors, and even philosophers.


Anonymous
Post 04/24/2012 19:03     Subject: TJ admission statistics from 2012
No way are kids living in those Annandale group houses with "aunts" paying tuition.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2012 18:34     Subject: Re:TJ admission statistics from 2012
Anonymous wrote:
Almost all the asians (mostly Korean and Indian) are born & raised here.


so what accounts for their very heavy accents and the need for ESL teachers at TJ? Anyone born here, by age 15, speaks accentless, colloquial English and doesn't need an ESL teacher. So I question whether this is true.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2012 17:35     Subject: Re:TJ admission statistics from 2012
Anonymous wrote:Why don't the Koreans go to good schools in their own country? Isn't the Korean government concerned they are losing students to the US?


Some of the students in boarding schools are here because they can't get in to the schools in their own country. Wealthy families see US education as an alternative.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2012 17:07     Subject: TJ admission statistics from 2012
Anonymous wrote:Almost all the asians (mostly Korean and Indian) are born & raised here.


source?
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2012 16:47     Subject: Re:TJ admission statistics from 2012
There are frequent audits. But since most of the crap on this board is just plain false not much happens.

Almost all the asians (mostly Korean and Indian) are born & raised here. They do culturally value education above all else and it shows on the standardized tests. As a pink guy I'll push my kids to do more rather than knock others down for trying too hard. Really, what's so bad about studying hard and doing more than the minimum required?


For many here pushing hard and doing more than the minimum required is only justified for lacrosse, soccer, swimming and tennis; and not math, reading, and writing.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2012 16:09     Subject: TJ admission statistics from 2012
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm close-minded and provincial, but it bugs me that local public school resources--paid for by tax dollars especially property tax dollars-- are going to citizens of other countries whose parents pay nothing. Especially if the resource is very valuable and scarce (e.g. a seat at TJ).


You mean the Koreans and Chinese wouldn't let Americans take advantage of them the same way?

The foreigners are obviously abusing the system and sealing TJ's fate. There should be an audit.



There are frequent audits. But since most of the crap on this board is just plain false not much happens.

Almost all the asians (mostly Korean and Indian) are born & raised here. They do culturally value education above all else and it shows on the standardized tests. As a pink guy I'll push my kids to do more rather than knock others down for trying too hard. Really, what's so bad about studying hard and doing more than the minimum required?