Anonymous
Post 05/26/2013 20:59     Subject: Re:Do you think you might get divorced once the kids are grown?

Do you have as hard a time as I do? Or have you found a way to cope?


Seriously, some days I think my head will explode.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2013 20:49     Subject: Re:Do you think you might get divorced once the kids are grown?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I've thought about it. Not because I don't love my husband but because I can't live with him. He creates a huge clutter mess where-ever he goes. He doesn't throw things away, doesn't put things away, etc. If I took photos of his workshop and office, you'd see exactly what I mean. I showed photos of his office to a mental health professional once who said "this is more than just a clutter problem".

I agree. He doesn't open his mail either and used to yell at me for doing it, saying it was a Federal offense, but after a few checks for thousands of dollars expired because he let them sit without opening them for over a year, he shut up about this.

I can't keep up without exhausting myself. He also doesn't really believe in maintaining a house, so I've lived with holes in doors, cracks in ceilings, etc. I can physically only do so much. I am in my early 50s and won't be able to keep up the pace I do in old age, so I am thinking about leaving just so I can live in place that doesn't make my head hurt looking at it. I don't want to be one of those old people they find crushed under clutter.

The only saving grace is that he doesn't tolerate food mess so what lies around are just objects, not disgusting things. Still, it's hard to live with.


OMG, I think we are married to the same person.


I'm also with a clone of this guy. If we could swing it financially, I would love to live near him, just not with him. Once the kids are grown, I'll see what can be done. On so many levels, it's draining to live with a depressive who considers himself visiting royalty at home.


The house across from me is for rent. Oh the fantasies...
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2013 20:47     Subject: Re:Do you think you might get divorced once the kids are grown?

Anonymous wrote:
I've thought about it. Not because I don't love my husband but because I can't live with him. He creates a huge clutter mess where-ever he goes. He doesn't throw things away, doesn't put things away, etc. If I took photos of his workshop and office, you'd see exactly what I mean. I showed photos of his office to a mental health professional once who said "this is more than just a clutter problem".

I agree. He doesn't open his mail either and used to yell at me for doing it, saying it was a Federal offense, but after a few checks for thousands of dollars expired because he let them sit without opening them for over a year, he shut up about this.

I can't keep up without exhausting myself. He also doesn't really believe in maintaining a house, so I've lived with holes in doors, cracks in ceilings, etc. I can physically only do so much. I am in my early 50s and won't be able to keep up the pace I do in old age, so I am thinking about leaving just so I can live in place that doesn't make my head hurt looking at it. I don't want to be one of those old people they find crushed under clutter.

The only saving grace is that he doesn't tolerate food mess so what lies around are just objects, not disgusting things. Still, it's hard to live with.


OMG, I think we are married to the same person.


Do you have as hard a time as I do? Or have you found a way to cope?
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2013 20:45     Subject: Re:Do you think you might get divorced once the kids are grown?

Anonymous wrote:
05/26/2013 13:03 Subject: Do you think you might get divorced once the kids are grown?
Anonymous



I stayed in a soul sucking, mind numbing, miserable marriage for the sake of the kids. DH dropped dead of a heart attack at age 40, and I was instantly free.

Lordy, lordy, free at last.

Signed
Merry Widow, there are lots of us.


You keep posting this and it is really ghoulish. To rejoice at the death of your children's father speaks volumes about who you are as a person. You were free to walk away at any time. Your glee at the death of your husband is disgusting.


+1. Seriously, what a bitch. You are gleefully happy that your children lost their father at a young age. Something wrong with you.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2013 20:14     Subject: Re:Do you think you might get divorced once the kids are grown?

Anonymous wrote:
I've thought about it. Not because I don't love my husband but because I can't live with him. He creates a huge clutter mess where-ever he goes. He doesn't throw things away, doesn't put things away, etc. If I took photos of his workshop and office, you'd see exactly what I mean. I showed photos of his office to a mental health professional once who said "this is more than just a clutter problem".

I agree. He doesn't open his mail either and used to yell at me for doing it, saying it was a Federal offense, but after a few checks for thousands of dollars expired because he let them sit without opening them for over a year, he shut up about this.

I can't keep up without exhausting myself. He also doesn't really believe in maintaining a house, so I've lived with holes in doors, cracks in ceilings, etc. I can physically only do so much. I am in my early 50s and won't be able to keep up the pace I do in old age, so I am thinking about leaving just so I can live in place that doesn't make my head hurt looking at it. I don't want to be one of those old people they find crushed under clutter.

The only saving grace is that he doesn't tolerate food mess so what lies around are just objects, not disgusting things. Still, it's hard to live with.


OMG, I think we are married to the same person.


Me too. Drives me nuts!
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2013 15:07     Subject: Do you think you might get divorced once the kids are grown?

Anonymous wrote:I've thought about it. Not because I don't love my husband but because I can't live with him. He creates a huge clutter mess where-ever he goes. He doesn't throw things away, doesn't put things away, etc. If I took photos of his workshop and office, you'd see exactly what I mean. I showed photos of his office to a mental health professional once who said "this is more than just a clutter problem".

I agree. He doesn't open his mail either and used to yell at me for doing it, saying it was a Federal offense, but after a few checks for thousands of dollars expired because he let them sit without opening them for over a year, he shut up about this.

I can't keep up without exhausting myself. He also doesn't really believe in maintaining a house, so I've lived with holes in doors, cracks in ceilings, etc. I can physically only do so much. I am in my early 50s and won't be able to keep up the pace I do in old age, so I am thinking about leaving just so I can live in place that doesn't make my head hurt looking at it. I don't want to be one of those old people they find crushed under clutter.

The only saving grace is that he doesn't tolerate food mess so what lies around are just objects, not disgusting things. Still, it's hard to live with.


I think I work with your husband and am tired of cleaning up his mess there as well.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2013 14:03     Subject: Re:Do you think you might get divorced once the kids are grown?

05/26/2013 13:03 Subject: Do you think you might get divorced once the kids are grown?
Anonymous



I stayed in a soul sucking, mind numbing, miserable marriage for the sake of the kids. DH dropped dead of a heart attack at age 40, and I was instantly free.

Lordy, lordy, free at last.

Signed
Merry Widow, there are lots of us.


You keep posting this and it is really ghoulish. To rejoice at the death of your children's father speaks volumes about who you are as a person. You were free to walk away at any time. Your glee at the death of your husband is disgusting.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2013 13:03     Subject: Do you think you might get divorced once the kids are grown?

I stayed in a soul sucking, mind numbing, miserable marriage for the sake of the kids. DH dropped dead of a heart attack at age 40, and I was instantly free.

Lordy, lordy, free at last.

Signed
Merry Widow, there are lots of us.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2013 12:57     Subject: Re:Do you think you might get divorced once the kids are grown?

Anonymous wrote:
I've thought about it. Not because I don't love my husband but because I can't live with him. He creates a huge clutter mess where-ever he goes. He doesn't throw things away, doesn't put things away, etc. If I took photos of his workshop and office, you'd see exactly what I mean. I showed photos of his office to a mental health professional once who said "this is more than just a clutter problem".

I agree. He doesn't open his mail either and used to yell at me for doing it, saying it was a Federal offense, but after a few checks for thousands of dollars expired because he let them sit without opening them for over a year, he shut up about this.

I can't keep up without exhausting myself. He also doesn't really believe in maintaining a house, so I've lived with holes in doors, cracks in ceilings, etc. I can physically only do so much. I am in my early 50s and won't be able to keep up the pace I do in old age, so I am thinking about leaving just so I can live in place that doesn't make my head hurt looking at it. I don't want to be one of those old people they find crushed under clutter.

The only saving grace is that he doesn't tolerate food mess so what lies around are just objects, not disgusting things. Still, it's hard to live with.


OMG, I think we are married to the same person.


I'm also with a clone of this guy. If we could swing it financially, I would love to live near him, just not with him. Once the kids are grown, I'll see what can be done. On so many levels, it's draining to live with a depressive who considers himself visiting royalty at home.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2013 12:54     Subject: Do you think you might get divorced once the kids are grown?

Anonymous wrote:I can't imagine being celibate for the next 50 years of my life. So unless he figures out what the hell the problem is, I might find myself singe after our youngest heads to college.


he probably already knows the answer but won't tell you. It's is usually one of things (affair? gay? ed? lack of attraction?).
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2013 12:28     Subject: Do you think you might get divorced once the kids are grown?

I can't imagine being celibate for the next 50 years of my life. So unless he figures out what the hell the problem is, I might find myself singe after our youngest heads to college.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2013 11:53     Subject: Do you think you might get divorced once the kids are grown?

Anonymous wrote:Depends on what is going on in the family.I begged my parents to get divorced at at minimum get separated when I was 8. They waited 'til we were both out of the house.Hate their decision, nobody benefited.My sister also hates her childhood when it comes to family dynamics. All we wanted was peace and quiet and that our parents were happy. We got no peace and quiet, and mom was miserable as hell.


Yeah, I find it interesting when people say they are staying together for the kids. I don't think people realize that kids notice when things are tense, and it does have an effect on kids.

But there's a difference between a situation in which you are just bored/underwhelmed with your wife/husband and a situation in which there is active animosity (arguing, et cetera). Even if there isn't arguing, but there is hatred, kids notice. (but if it's just boredom/lack of sex or passion, I don't think it affects kids.)

But in cases where there is real anger or tension between a couple, it actually is probably better (if financially possible) for them to separate.

In a number of cases, though, the financial part is the kicker.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2013 09:22     Subject: Do you think you might get divorced once the kids are grown?

Anonymous wrote:I've thought about it. Not because I don't love my husband but because I can't live with him. He creates a huge clutter mess where-ever he goes. He doesn't throw things away, doesn't put things away, etc. If I took photos of his workshop and office, you'd see exactly what I mean. I showed photos of his office to a mental health professional once who said "this is more than just a clutter problem".

I agree. He doesn't open his mail either and used to yell at me for doing it, saying it was a Federal offense, but after a few checks for thousands of dollars expired because he let them sit without opening them for over a year, he shut up about this.

I can't keep up without exhausting myself. He also doesn't really believe in maintaining a house, so I've lived with holes in doors, cracks in ceilings, etc. I can physically only do so much. I am in my early 50s and won't be able to keep up the pace I do in old age, so I am thinking about leaving just so I can live in place that doesn't make my head hurt looking at it. I don't want to be one of those old people they find crushed under clutter.

The only saving grace is that he doesn't tolerate food mess so what lies around are just objects, not disgusting things. Still, it's hard to live with.


he sounds exactly like my father, who lived like a reclusive.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2013 08:20     Subject: Re:Do you think you might get divorced once the kids are grown?

I've thought about it. Not because I don't love my husband but because I can't live with him. He creates a huge clutter mess where-ever he goes. He doesn't throw things away, doesn't put things away, etc. If I took photos of his workshop and office, you'd see exactly what I mean. I showed photos of his office to a mental health professional once who said "this is more than just a clutter problem".

I agree. He doesn't open his mail either and used to yell at me for doing it, saying it was a Federal offense, but after a few checks for thousands of dollars expired because he let them sit without opening them for over a year, he shut up about this.

I can't keep up without exhausting myself. He also doesn't really believe in maintaining a house, so I've lived with holes in doors, cracks in ceilings, etc. I can physically only do so much. I am in my early 50s and won't be able to keep up the pace I do in old age, so I am thinking about leaving just so I can live in place that doesn't make my head hurt looking at it. I don't want to be one of those old people they find crushed under clutter.

The only saving grace is that he doesn't tolerate food mess so what lies around are just objects, not disgusting things. Still, it's hard to live with.


OMG, I think we are married to the same person.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2013 06:20     Subject: Do you think you might get divorced once the kids are grown?

I've thought about it. Not because I don't love my husband but because I can't live with him. He creates a huge clutter mess where-ever he goes. He doesn't throw things away, doesn't put things away, etc. If I took photos of his workshop and office, you'd see exactly what I mean. I showed photos of his office to a mental health professional once who said "this is more than just a clutter problem".

I agree. He doesn't open his mail either and used to yell at me for doing it, saying it was a Federal offense, but after a few checks for thousands of dollars expired because he let them sit without opening them for over a year, he shut up about this.

I can't keep up without exhausting myself. He also doesn't really believe in maintaining a house, so I've lived with holes in doors, cracks in ceilings, etc. I can physically only do so much. I am in my early 50s and won't be able to keep up the pace I do in old age, so I am thinking about leaving just so I can live in place that doesn't make my head hurt looking at it. I don't want to be one of those old people they find crushed under clutter.

The only saving grace is that he doesn't tolerate food mess so what lies around are just objects, not disgusting things. Still, it's hard to live with.