Anonymous wrote:My daughter has a composite score of 134 on COGAT what are her chances?

It's hard to say. What were the subscores? What were her NNAT scores?

If she doesn't have anything below a 130, her chances are very good.
If she doesn't have anything below a 125, I'd say her chances are good.

It will largely hinge on the GBRS filled out by her teachers.

My daughter has a composite score of 134 on COGAT what are her chances?

They handed my second grader the letter today. Enclosed was a letter saying that my daughter was not in the pool. It contained both scores.


I have never heard of a letter stating that someone is not in the pool. Typically only the ones in the pool get the letter. This may have been something nonstandard that your school put together. Did they put your dc's cogat and NNAT scores in the letter?

I received two letters. One letter explaining the CogAT scores. The second letter was signed by the school principal say that my dc want not in the screening pool which also explained about Level II and III programs. Right now my second grader is supposed be be receiving Level II, but I'm not sure how that's going. The CogNat gave an explanation and said that my dc scores were above average. I told my dc she did not make it in the pool but was very close and that I was very proud of her.

Even if they are using the composite CogAT score (not a single subtest), an NNAT score above 132 alone will place your child in the pool. They use the NNAT to capture kids (like non-English speakers) that the CogAT misses. That said, the urban legend has it that the NNAT carries less weight than the CogAT in the "back room" of the screening room. Good luck!

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Anonymous wrote:Please advise: if your 2nd grader scored above 132 on Nnat1, are they automatically in the pool regardless of COgat? Assume both administered by FCPS.

This was my original post. My second grader scored a 139 on the NNAT in FIRST grade last year. I'm confused about the composite discussion. Are they now saying they are taking the composite of the NNAT first grade score and the COgat taken in 2nd grade to determine pool? My AART is unreachable.

PP, I have the same question. My DC scored above 132 on NNAT when took it in first grade, but all of the Cogat scores are just below 130. Not clear to me whether DC would be considered in the "pool."

Just refer. It's one page and no attachments.

http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/packet/Fillable_AAPLevelIVReferralForm.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:Please advise: if your 2nd grader scored above 132 on Nnat1, are they automatically in the pool regardless of COgat? Assume both administered by FCPS.

This was my original post. My second grader scored a 139 on the NNAT in FIRST grade last year. I'm confused about the composite discussion. Are they now saying they are taking the composite of the NNAT first grade score and the COgat taken in 2nd grade to determine pool? My AART is unreachable.

PP, I have the same question. My DC scored above 132 on NNAT when took it in first grade, but all of the Cogat scores are just below 130. Not clear to me whether DC would be considered in the "pool."

Anonymous wrote:They handed my second grader the letter today. Enclosed was a letter saying that my daughter was not in the pool. It contained both scores.

I have never heard of a letter stating that someone is not in the pool. Typically only the ones in the pool get the letter. This may have been something nonstandard that your school put together. Did they put your dc's cogat and NNAT scores in the letter?

They handed my second grader the letter today. Enclosed was a letter saying that my daughter was not in the pool. It contained both scores.

Anonymous wrote:Please advise: if your 2nd grader scored above 132 on Nnat1, are they automatically in the pool regardless of COgat? Assume both administered by FCPS.

This was my original post. My second grader scored a 139 on the NNAT in FIRST grade last year. I'm confused about the composite discussion. Are they now saying they are taking the composite of the NNAT first grade score and the COgat taken in 2nd grade to determine pool? My AART is unreachable.

Hi all -- has anyone received the CogAt scores yet? I can't get a straight answer from school/FCPS about when they are coming out. Thanks

Anonymous wrote:Whatever they're doing with the scores this year, it would be great if they explained it. Either in the "pool" letter or on the website.

There is little specific information in the "pool" letter.

I am not sure about the CogAT re composite vs. one subsection. I am sure they are using the 1st grade NNAT, based on the FCPS website.

From what I understand, the scores were statically higher than previous years, particularly in certain groups. The assumption is there may have been test prep for those groups. (I am not sure if groups refer to ethic groups or specific schools).

If they really suspect test prep, look for the test scores to be downweighted relative to the GBRS.

Sometimes using the composite score can be an advantage for some kids. When my dd was in 2nd grade, none of her cogat sub scores were at or above the cutoff, but her composite was.

Whatever they're doing with the scores this year, it would be great if they explained it. Either in the "pool" letter or on the website.

the composite score is what used to be used a few years back. i wouldn't be surprised if they went back to this.

Whoever said that NNAT scores aren't counting toward the in-pool status this year was speaking about the NNAT being administered in 2nd grade.

Correct or not, I don't think her statements apply to those who took the NNAT in first grade last year. According to the 2011-2012 AAP parent information packet, those scores, along with 2nd grade cogat scores will determine pool status.