Anonymous
12/17/2011 22:53
Subject: why do breastfed babies still get sick all the time?
Nobody says formula is less beneficial- we simply say that breastmilk isn't the golden liquid you people make it out to be. And that "breast is best" is at best, reductive and simplistic and at worst, straight up hogwash.
Anonymous
12/17/2011 22:51
Subject: why do breastfed babies still get sick all the time?
Uh that article straight up says that the studies are observational and therefore do not prove anything. Further, where does it say that all of the social or economic confounds are removed. Finally, meta analyses are subject to publication bias, the fact that studies with null findings (meaning no effect) are rarely published, and as such not available for review.
Anonymous
12/17/2011 22:40
Subject: Re:why do breastfed babies still get sick all the time?
Anonymous wrote:I have a plan to do a study, I'm working on the grant to NIH now, about the lack of research knowledge of BF moms vs. FF moms.
It seems that if you BF your child you instantly lose all ability to either do research or be objective.
That's cool, PP. I'm also doing a study. It's on the effects of formula company marketing on mothers of young children and the extent to which it fosters the erroneous belief that formula is as beneficial to infants as breast milk. Seems that if you FF you instantly lose all ability to do research or be objective.
Anonymous
12/17/2011 22:28
Subject: Re:why do breastfed babies still get sick all the time?
Anonymous wrote:
Also - recommendation of 6 months of ebf is also flawed, some findings even suggest increased risks- http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.c5955
fascinating...thx for posting.
Anonymous
12/17/2011 22:14
Subject: Re:why do breastfed babies still get sick all the time?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The reason some of you are choosing to breastfeed your babies is because you think it is supposed to keep them from getting sick? Seriously?
There are no benefits to breastfeeding; there are risks to formula feeding. SIDS is one; but the bigger ones for me are long-term health problems such as diabetes and Crohn's disease and other digestive tract issues. Also, the literature on the increased health risks to moms who do not breastfeed is quite robust (type 2 diabetes, breast and ovarian cancer, metabolic syndrome). Those are the reasons I do it. These risks are on a population level; therefore, the risk to any particular individual is small. To me it is worth it to reduce those health risks, but if I could not breastfeed I wouldn't stress over it too much, I'd just focus my attention on mitigating them in other ways (exercise, sleep, diet).
Provide your source on this - scientific sources, not bullshit kellymom or LC articles. I'd love to see one TRUE scientific journal that has any information about how there are "risks" to FF or the coralation between FF and SIDS (w/ statistical significance).
I'm sure you will be unable to find ONE.
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2011/06/08/peds.2010-3000
Recent metaanalysis that showed a 60% reduction in SIDS in breastfed infants and over 70% in exclusively breastfed ones.
Bingo! And that's just one of many. Another poster upthread provided the SIDS center studies on this, as well. I agree wholeheartedly with the first quoted poster here. Breastfeeding isn't "best," it's just normal. And formula feeding, while pretty darn safe, is riskier. Bottom line. Who in the world can't get that?
Anonymous
12/17/2011 22:10
Subject: Re:why do breastfed babies still get sick all the time?
PP here. I see someone beat me to posting a description of the study. However, my link does link directly to the full paper. Please read it before objecting. It addresses all of the confounding issues that have been brought up so far.
Anonymous
12/17/2011 22:06
Subject: Re:why do breastfed babies still get sick all the time?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The reason some of you are choosing to breastfeed your babies is because you think it is supposed to keep them from getting sick? Seriously?
There are no benefits to breastfeeding; there are risks to formula feeding. SIDS is one; but the bigger ones for me are long-term health problems such as diabetes and Crohn's disease and other digestive tract issues. Also, the literature on the increased health risks to moms who do not breastfeed is quite robust (type 2 diabetes, breast and ovarian cancer, metabolic syndrome). Those are the reasons I do it. These risks are on a population level; therefore, the risk to any particular individual is small. To me it is worth it to reduce those health risks, but if I could not breastfeed I wouldn't stress over it too much, I'd just focus my attention on mitigating them in other ways (exercise, sleep, diet).
Provide your source on this - scientific sources, not bullshit kellymom or LC articles. I'd love to see one TRUE scientific journal that has any information about how there are "risks" to FF or the coralation between FF and SIDS (w/ statistical significance).
I'm sure you will be unable to find ONE.
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2011/06/08/peds.2010-3000
Recent metaanalysis that showed a 60% reduction in SIDS in breastfed infants and over 70% in exclusively breastfed ones.
Anonymous
12/17/2011 22:01
Subject: Re:why do breastfed babies still get sick all the time?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The reason some of you are choosing to breastfeed your babies is because you think it is supposed to keep them from getting sick? Seriously?
There are no benefits to breastfeeding; there are risks to formula feeding. SIDS is one; but the bigger ones for me are long-term health problems such as diabetes and Crohn's disease and other digestive tract issues. Also, the literature on the increased health risks to moms who do not breastfeed is quite robust (type 2 diabetes, breast and ovarian cancer, metabolic syndrome). Those are the reasons I do it. These risks are on a population level; therefore, the risk to any particular individual is small. To me it is worth it to reduce those health risks, but if I could not breastfeed I wouldn't stress over it too much, I'd just focus my attention on mitigating them in other ways (exercise, sleep, diet).
Provide your source on this - scientific sources, not bullshit kellymom or LC articles. I'd love to see one TRUE scientific journal that has any information about how there are "risks" to FF or the coralation between FF and SIDS (w/ statistical significance).
I'm sure you will be unable to find ONE.
Do you consider Pediatrics to be a "TRUE sicentific journal"?
http://healthland.time.com/2011/06/14/study-breast-feeding-may-lower-babies-sids-risk/
Anonymous
12/17/2011 20:41
Subject: Re:why do breastfed babies still get sick all the time?
I have a plan to do a study, I'm working on the grant to NIH now, about the lack of research knowledge of BF moms vs. FF moms.
It seems that if you BF your child you instantly lose all ability to either do research or be objective.
It seems that if you BF your child you instantly lose all ability to either do research or be objective.
Anonymous
12/17/2011 20:39
Subject: Re:why do breastfed babies still get sick all the time?
Anonymous wrote:The reason some of you are choosing to breastfeed your babies is because you think it is supposed to keep them from getting sick? Seriously?
There are no benefits to breastfeeding; there are risks to formula feeding. SIDS is one; but the bigger ones for me are long-term health problems such as diabetes and Crohn's disease and other digestive tract issues. Also, the literature on the increased health risks to moms who do not breastfeed is quite robust (type 2 diabetes, breast and ovarian cancer, metabolic syndrome). Those are the reasons I do it. These risks are on a population level; therefore, the risk to any particular individual is small. To me it is worth it to reduce those health risks, but if I could not breastfeed I wouldn't stress over it too much, I'd just focus my attention on mitigating them in other ways (exercise, sleep, diet).
Provide your source on this - scientific sources, not bullshit kellymom or LC articles. I'd love to see one TRUE scientific journal that has any information about how there are "risks" to FF or the coralation between FF and SIDS (w/ statistical significance).
I'm sure you will be unable to find ONE.
Anonymous
12/17/2011 20:36
Subject: Re:why do breastfed babies still get sick all the time?
I never breastfed but for those that have that I know, they tell me the reasons they do it are 1) to provide their baby w/ their antibodies so they won't get sick as often and 2) they believe it makes their child smarter. Most of them say they hate breastfeeding, it is difficult and exhausting and they are very happy when it is over. My son was sick once his first year, once his second year and it was years before he got sick again. He is very intelligent too. I guess I don't see what they are talking about. They have their ped on speed dial b/c their kids are always ill and they don't seem all that intelligent. None of these moms mention that they breastfed for their own health benefits. I'm not sure they even know there could be any.
Anonymous
12/17/2011 20:23
Subject: Re:why do breastfed babies still get sick all the time?
The reason some of you are choosing to breastfeed your babies is because you think it is supposed to keep them from getting sick? Seriously?
There are no benefits to breastfeeding; there are risks to formula feeding. SIDS is one; but the bigger ones for me are long-term health problems such as diabetes and Crohn's disease and other digestive tract issues. Also, the literature on the increased health risks to moms who do not breastfeed is quite robust (type 2 diabetes, breast and ovarian cancer, metabolic syndrome). Those are the reasons I do it. These risks are on a population level; therefore, the risk to any particular individual is small. To me it is worth it to reduce those health risks, but if I could not breastfeed I wouldn't stress over it too much, I'd just focus my attention on mitigating them in other ways (exercise, sleep, diet).
There are no benefits to breastfeeding; there are risks to formula feeding. SIDS is one; but the bigger ones for me are long-term health problems such as diabetes and Crohn's disease and other digestive tract issues. Also, the literature on the increased health risks to moms who do not breastfeed is quite robust (type 2 diabetes, breast and ovarian cancer, metabolic syndrome). Those are the reasons I do it. These risks are on a population level; therefore, the risk to any particular individual is small. To me it is worth it to reduce those health risks, but if I could not breastfeed I wouldn't stress over it too much, I'd just focus my attention on mitigating them in other ways (exercise, sleep, diet).
Anonymous
12/17/2011 20:04
Subject: why do breastfed babies still get sick all the time?
Anonymous wrote:Also - recommendation of 6 months of ebf is also flawed, some findings even suggest increased risks- http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.c5955
This paper is reviewing exclusive breastfeeding for 6 month vs 3-4 months. It has nothing to do with formula.
Anonymous
12/17/2011 19:42
Subject: why do breastfed babies still get sick all the time?
It's so funny that you guys are fighting over formula vs breastffeading...both of which are equally toxic. Your kids are getting sick because you're injecting them with toxins and viruses....not because of their diets.
Anonymous
12/17/2011 19:29
Subject: Re:why do breastfed babies still get sick all the time?
Anonymous wrote:Mine don't! They get sick far, far less than their bottle-fed peers.
I know it's anecdotal, but in my experience this is true as well. Also there are health benefits for the mom, not to mention your uterus contracts quicker. Especially with my second, I could feel the contractions every time I fed in those early weeks. It was a nice added benefit!