Anonymous wrote:Just for fun....
I'm an atheist with a Christmas tree, a nativity scene, and a menorah. I even put wreaths on the front of my house. One year my daughter put the menorah in the nativity scene because she thought, "Jesus would like it."
Have fun with that.

Of course baby Jesus would like the menorah. He was Jewish, as was his family. I think that's wonderful.

On a side note, I can't believe all those people that fell for an obvious troll post. Love it!

The scripture in question isn't talking about Christmas Trees, but about worshiping something other than God.

No Christian I know worships the Christmas Tree. To my family, it has no religious significance. Just like most of the other festive decorations throughout the house. Let's be honest - its fun to decorate, and it cheers people up in the dead of winter. They see bright colorful lights and hear people signing sweet songs and it makes the gloomy day a little brighter. There's nothing inherently "un-Christian" about that. And there's nothing that makes it "only-Christian" either.

I wonder where OP gets this stuff. She must cruise those hysterical-sounding and uninformed atheist echo chambers, where everybody rants to each other about religion.

She finds something there and says to herself, "this site really knows what it's talking about, and I'm going to try this out on DCUM!"

Pathetic, really.

Seems a little defensive.

Just for fun....
I'm an atheist with a Christmas tree, a nativity scene, and a menorah. I even put wreaths on the front of my house. One year my daughter put the menorah in the nativity scene because she thought, "Jesus would like it."
Have fun with that.

BACK TO THE ORIGINAL SCRIPTURE...
Jeremiah 10
God and Idols
1 Hear what the LORD says to you, people of Israel. 2 This is what the LORD says:
“Do not learn the ways of the nations
or be terrified by signs in the heavens,
though the nations are terrified by them.
3 For the practices of the peoples are worthless;
they cut a tree out of the forest,
and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel.
4 They adorn it with silver and gold;
they fasten it with hammer and nails
so it will not totter.
5 Like a scarecrow in a cucumber field,
their idols cannot speak;
they must be carried
because they cannot walk.
Do not fear them;
they can do no harm
nor can they do any good.”

6 No one is like you, LORD;
you are great,
and your name is mighty in power.
7 Who should not fear you,
King of the nations?
This is your due.
Among all the wise leaders of the nations
and in all their kingdoms,
there is no one like you.

8 They are all senseless and foolish;
they are taught by worthless wooden idols.
9 Hammered silver is brought from Tarshish
and gold from Uphaz.
What the craftsman and goldsmith have made
is then dressed in blue and purple—
all made by skilled workers.
10 But the LORD is the true God;
he is the living God, the eternal King.
When he is angry, the earth trembles;
the nations cannot endure his wrath.

11 “Tell them this: ‘These gods, who did not make the heavens and the earth, will perish from the earth and from under the heavens.’”[a]

12 But God made the earth by his power;
he founded the world by his wisdom
and stretched out the heavens by his understanding.
13 When he thunders, the waters in the heavens roar;
he makes clouds rise from the ends of the earth.
He sends lightning with the rain
and brings out the wind from his storehouses.

14 Everyone is senseless and without knowledge;
every goldsmith is shamed by his idols.
The images he makes are a fraud;
they have no breath in them.
15 They are worthless, the objects of mockery;
when their judgment comes, they will perish.
16 He who is the Portion of Jacob is not like these,
for he is the Maker of all things,
including Israel, the people of his inheritance—
the LORD Almighty is his name.

"“Judge not, lest ye not be judged.” (Matthew 7:1)"

That's not quite the quote as I've seen it. I've always seen, "Judge not, that ye not be judged," or "Judge not, lest ye also be judged."

I like the above version much better. It seems to say that if I judge, I won't be judged in return.

Nice!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

WTF right back. Nobody on this thread has even suggested they take the bible literally. Nor has anybody on this thread told you how to live your life.

So your haranguing us about bible literalism comes as a total non sequitur. However it sure is consistent with trolling. Buzz off, troll.

I took the bait, because I agree. And I don't think she is a troll. I am agreeable to all faith traditions, and how they practice their faiths. Unless they tell me I am wrong in not believing. Then I get pissed.

She is a troll. She proved her trolldom when she dragged the off-topic subject of bible literalism into a discussion of Christmas trees. From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29):

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4]

I think you can agree there is at least one troll here (e.g., stupid catholic witch poster). Or, maybe all of these trollish posts are her.

I agree with all faith traditions too, and I think there are many routes to God. But I've stopped extending my tolerance to disruptive trolls who just want to start shouting matches and then make snarky comments about the "stupid religious people fighting." I don't think we should encourage her.

Agree OP is the troll. You can post something infammatory to piss people off and then when people respond call TROLL.

Anonymous wrote:Let's blame the Germans. It's all their fault.

That's just a good rule of thumb.

Hell, this whole thread is one big troll. Do you think OP, who says she.is.not.christian is is probably the pagan, is quoting Jeremiah from pure friendliness?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

WTF right back. Nobody on this thread has even suggested they take the bible literally. Nor has anybody on this thread told you how to live your life.

So your haranguing us about bible literalism comes as a total non sequitur. However it sure is consistent with trolling. Buzz off, troll.

I took the bait, because I agree. And I don't think she is a troll. I am agreeable to all faith traditions, and how they practice their faiths. Unless they tell me I am wrong in not believing. Then I get pissed.

She is a troll. She proved her trolldom when she dragged the off-topic subject of bible literalism into a discussion of Christmas trees. From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29):

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4]

I think you can agree there is at least one troll here (e.g., stupid catholic witch poster). Or, maybe all of these trollish posts are her.

I agree with all faith traditions too, and I think there are many routes to God. But I've stopped extending my tolerance to disruptive trolls who just want to start shouting matches and then make snarky comments about the "stupid religious people fighting." I don't think we should encourage her.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You religious people are ridiculous. You seriously would label someone as inferior to you because they have a christmas tree? Who the heck would want to go to heaven if it is full of judgemental souls like this?

WTF? The only person here quoting scripture about christmas trees (and incorrectly, it's been pointed out) is a pagan.

And learn how to spell "judgmental."

PP spelled it correctly. Both spellings are correct, actually.

Too bad she didn't know enough to defend herself, and had to resort to calling that poster a bitch....

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You religious people are ridiculous. You seriously would label someone as inferior to you because they have a christmas tree? Who the heck would want to go to heaven if it is full of judgemental souls like this?

WTF? The only person here quoting scripture about christmas trees (and incorrectly, it's been pointed out) is a pagan.

And learn how to spell "judgmental."

Learn out not to be a bitch. So sick of the spelling jerk-offs on here.

You're welcome. You seem like a charming and thoughtful person. Our families should get together for pot luck.

Anonymous wrote:silly religious people. Look at them fight!!

The ranting atheist and the pagan are trying to pick fights.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You religious people are ridiculous. You seriously would label someone as inferior to you because they have a christmas tree? Who the heck would want to go to heaven if it is full of judgemental souls like this?

WTF? The only person here quoting scripture about christmas trees (and incorrectly, it's been pointed out) is a pagan.

And learn how to spell "judgmental."

PP spelled it correctly. Both spellings are correct, actually.