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Complaining that a significant group of people are leading to the demise of the economy and the country . . . let's see, where have we heard that before?

I hope you're not referencing black people, because if so, your premise is very faulty. We (I'm black) were brought here by force and enslaved for hundreds of years before we were emancipated. We were here *prior* to the writing of the Constitution and when the injustices were finally realized by society, amendments were made to grant us freedom and full liberty.

Illegals enter our borders *after* the writing of the Constitution, so at their very entry in the US, they are criminals and should be offered no protection under US law. They certainly shouldn't be allowed to benefit from many government services.

Either enter legally or don't enter. What's so hard (or wrong) about that? I wouldn't be so bold as to enter another country illegally and not expect to be told/asked to leave and I certainly wouldn't insist that it's my right to have access to welfare, free education, free healthcare, etc. It's really quite absurd.

Not the PP, but its obvious if you have an understanding of history.
"I say: my feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Saviour as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to the fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as sufferer but as fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and of adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before—the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice. And as a man I have the duty to see to it that human society does not suffer the same catastrophic collapse as did the civilization of the ancient world some two thousand years ago—a civilization which was driven to its ruin through this same Jewish people. "
"The Catholic Church considered the Jews pestilent for fifteen hundred years, put them in ghettos, etc, because it recognized the Jews for what they were... I recognize the representatives of this race as pestilent for the state and for the church and perhaps I am thereby doing Christianity a great service by pushing them out of schools and public functions. "

Sorry, but your post is way too convoluted. Perhaps try again in English?

The quotes are from Hitler. Summarized, Jews are the cause of the economic ruin of Germany. Replace Jews with spics and replace Germany with America, and you get the today's argument.

I don't know Hitler rhetoric offhand to recognize his deranged musings. Might I suggest a "credit" after a quote, next time?

And I don't think the comparison to Jews in Germany are in any way comparable to the US' problem with illegal aliens. BTW, your use of the word "spic" is extremely insensitive. Yet you call yourself a "sympathizer"?

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Anonymous wrote:I'll be against when we open up immigration enough to fix our economy. No one wants to say it, but immigrants are vital to certain industries, both at the top and the very bottom of the labor force. And immigration is the fastest way to solve the housing crisis.

But we moan and moan about what a burden immigrants are, and how they steal our jobs. These are two falsehoods.

First there is no competition for jobs in agriculture for example. And in high tech we don't graduate enough qualified candidates. So by preventing immigration of engineers and scientists, we are just causing our companies to run on B level talent, which does nobody any good.

Second, immigrants do use services when they first get here. But over the course of their lifetime they start putting in much more than they take out of the system. Guess where that money goes? To pay for all of our retirees' social security and medicare.

What illegal immigrants do you know whot come here and become engineers and scientists?

Illegal immigrants do in fact take jobs that Americans could have. The difference is the wage. Illegals are more willing to work for a lower wage. That's a HUGE difference that folks seem to want to ignore. No one is refusing to do construction work..but what they are refusing to do is to take on such a dangerous job with full benefits and pay at $5.00/hour. No one is refusing to be your child's nanny...but they are refusing to do it for less than minimum wage and no health benefits, etc. Americans just want rock-bottom prices for their shit and illegals are the best way for them to keep up with the Joneses.

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Anonymous wrote:against, and for changing automatic birth citizenship to when at least 1 parent is a citizen. No more anchor babies.

Why do you hate the Constitution?

The Constitutionnever intended for coutries near our borders to have their citizens sneak over and plop out babies to get free benifits and all the things that come with citizenship. The balance of income vs expendetures is going to bankrupt our nation. You can't have all these poor new people coming in getting public assistance when the parents never paid a dime into the system, it unsustainable. look at california, that state is fucked. Luckily there are enough moron liberal movie star and rich people who don't mind throwing away their money to taxes that it has a tiny amount of taxed income streams but even with that california is BANKRUPT.

Complaining that a significant group of people are leading to the demise of the economy and the country . . . let's see, where have we heard that before?

I hope you're not referencing black people, because if so, your premise is very faulty. We (I'm black) were brought here by force and enslaved for hundreds of years before we were emancipated. We were here *prior* to the writing of the Constitution and when the injustices were finally realized by society, amendments were made to grant us freedom and full liberty.

Illegals enter our borders *after* the writing of the Constitution, so at their very entry in the US, they are criminals and should be offered no protection under US law. They certainly shouldn't be allowed to benefit from many government services.

Either enter legally or don't enter. What's so hard (or wrong) about that? I wouldn't be so bold as to enter another country illegally and not expect to be told/asked to leave and I certainly wouldn't insist that it's my right to have access to welfare, free education, free healthcare, etc. It's really quite absurd.

Not the PP, but its obvious if you have an understanding of history.
"I say: my feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Saviour as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to the fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as sufferer but as fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and of adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before—the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice. And as a man I have the duty to see to it that human society does not suffer the same catastrophic collapse as did the civilization of the ancient world some two thousand years ago—a civilization which was driven to its ruin through this same Jewish people. "
"The Catholic Church considered the Jews pestilent for fifteen hundred years, put them in ghettos, etc, because it recognized the Jews for what they were... I recognize the representatives of this race as pestilent for the state and for the church and perhaps I am thereby doing Christianity a great service by pushing them out of schools and public functions. "

Sorry, but your post is way too convoluted. Perhaps try again in English?

The quotes are from Hitler. Summarized, Jews are the cause of the economic ruin of Germany. Replace Jews with spics and replace Germany with America, and you get the today's argument.

Anonymous wrote:The 14th amendment is very clear:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws"

For those of you who are harping on the "anchor baby" issue I suggest your start working on that constitutional convention!

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Anonymous wrote:against, and for changing automatic birth citizenship to when at least 1 parent is a citizen. No more anchor babies.

Why do you hate the Constitution?

The Constitutionnever intended for coutries near our borders to have their citizens sneak over and plop out babies to get free benifits and all the things that come with citizenship. The balance of income vs expendetures is going to bankrupt our nation. You can't have all these poor new people coming in getting public assistance when the parents never paid a dime into the system, it unsustainable. look at california, that state is fucked. Luckily there are enough moron liberal movie star and rich people who don't mind throwing away their money to taxes that it has a tiny amount of taxed income streams but even with that california is BANKRUPT.

Complaining that a significant group of people are leading to the demise of the economy and the country . . . let's see, where have we heard that before?

I hope you're not referencing black people, because if so, your premise is very faulty. We (I'm black) were brought here by force and enslaved for hundreds of years before we were emancipated. We were here *prior* to the writing of the Constitution and when the injustices were finally realized by society, amendments were made to grant us freedom and full liberty.

Illegals enter our borders *after* the writing of the Constitution, so at their very entry in the US, they are criminals and should be offered no protection under US law. They certainly shouldn't be allowed to benefit from many government services.

Either enter legally or don't enter. What's so hard (or wrong) about that? I wouldn't be so bold as to enter another country illegally and not expect to be told/asked to leave and I certainly wouldn't insist that it's my right to have access to welfare, free education, free healthcare, etc. It's really quite absurd.

Not the PP, but its obvious if you have an understanding of history.
"I say: my feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Saviour as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to the fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as sufferer but as fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and of adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before—the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice. And as a man I have the duty to see to it that human society does not suffer the same catastrophic collapse as did the civilization of the ancient world some two thousand years ago—a civilization which was driven to its ruin through this same Jewish people. "
"The Catholic Church considered the Jews pestilent for fifteen hundred years, put them in ghettos, etc, because it recognized the Jews for what they were... I recognize the representatives of this race as pestilent for the state and for the church and perhaps I am thereby doing Christianity a great service by pushing them out of schools and public functions. "

Sorry, but your post is way too convoluted. Perhaps try again in English?

Anonymous wrote:I'll be against when we open up immigration enough to fix our economy. No one wants to say it, but immigrants are vital to certain industries, both at the top and the very bottom of the labor force. And immigration is the fastest way to solve the housing crisis.

But we moan and moan about what a burden immigrants are, and how they steal our jobs. These are two falsehoods.

First there is no competition for jobs in agriculture for example. And in high tech we don't graduate enough qualified candidates. So by preventing immigration of engineers and scientists, we are just causing our companies to run on B level talent, which does nobody any good.

Second, immigrants do use services when they first get here. But over the course of their lifetime they start putting in much more than they take out of the system. Guess where that money goes? To pay for all of our retirees' social security and medicare.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:against, and for changing automatic birth citizenship to when at least 1 parent is a citizen. No more anchor babies.

Why do you hate the Constitution?

The Constitutionnever intended for coutries near our borders to have their citizens sneak over and plop out babies to get free benifits and all the things that come with citizenship. The balance of income vs expendetures is going to bankrupt our nation. You can't have all these poor new people coming in getting public assistance when the parents never paid a dime into the system, it unsustainable. look at california, that state is fucked. Luckily there are enough moron liberal movie star and rich people who don't mind throwing away their money to taxes that it has a tiny amount of taxed income streams but even with that california is BANKRUPT.

Complaining that a significant group of people are leading to the demise of the economy and the country . . . let's see, where have we heard that before?

I hope you're not referencing black people, because if so, your premise is very faulty. We (I'm black) were brought here by force and enslaved for hundreds of years before we were emancipated. We were here *prior* to the writing of the Constitution and when the injustices were finally realized by society, amendments were made to grant us freedom and full liberty.

Illegals enter our borders *after* the writing of the Constitution, so at their very entry in the US, they are criminals and should be offered no protection under US law. They certainly shouldn't be allowed to benefit from many government services.

Either enter legally or don't enter. What's so hard (or wrong) about that? I wouldn't be so bold as to enter another country illegally and not expect to be told/asked to leave and I certainly wouldn't insist that it's my right to have access to welfare, free education, free healthcare, etc. It's really quite absurd.

Think Germany, late 1930s. The rhetoric is distressingly similar.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:against, and for changing automatic birth citizenship to when at least 1 parent is a citizen. No more anchor babies.

Why do you hate the Constitution?

The Constitutionnever intended for coutries near our borders to have their citizens sneak over and plop out babies to get free benifits and all the things that come with citizenship. The balance of income vs expendetures is going to bankrupt our nation. You can't have all these poor new people coming in getting public assistance when the parents never paid a dime into the system, it unsustainable. look at california, that state is fucked. Luckily there are enough moron liberal movie star and rich people who don't mind throwing away their money to taxes that it has a tiny amount of taxed income streams but even with that california is BANKRUPT.

Complaining that a significant group of people are leading to the demise of the economy and the country . . . let's see, where have we heard that before?

I hope you're not referencing black people, because if so, your premise is very faulty. We (I'm black) were brought here by force and enslaved for hundreds of years before we were emancipated. We were here *prior* to the writing of the Constitution and when the injustices were finally realized by society, amendments were made to grant us freedom and full liberty.

Illegals enter our borders *after* the writing of the Constitution, so at their very entry in the US, they are criminals and should be offered no protection under US law. They certainly shouldn't be allowed to benefit from many government services.

Either enter legally or don't enter. What's so hard (or wrong) about that? I wouldn't be so bold as to enter another country illegally and not expect to be told/asked to leave and I certainly wouldn't insist that it's my right to have access to welfare, free education, free healthcare, etc. It's really quite absurd.

Not the PP, but its obvious if you have an understanding of history.
"I say: my feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Saviour as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to the fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as sufferer but as fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and of adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before—the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice. And as a man I have the duty to see to it that human society does not suffer the same catastrophic collapse as did the civilization of the ancient world some two thousand years ago—a civilization which was driven to its ruin through this same Jewish people. "
"The Catholic Church considered the Jews pestilent for fifteen hundred years, put them in ghettos, etc, because it recognized the Jews for what they were... I recognize the representatives of this race as pestilent for the state and for the church and perhaps I am thereby doing Christianity a great service by pushing them out of schools and public functions. "

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:against, and for changing automatic birth citizenship to when at least 1 parent is a citizen. No more anchor babies.

Why do you hate the Constitution?

The Constitutionnever intended for coutries near our borders to have their citizens sneak over and plop out babies to get free benifits and all the things that come with citizenship. The balance of income vs expendetures is going to bankrupt our nation. You can't have all these poor new people coming in getting public assistance when the parents never paid a dime into the system, it unsustainable. look at california, that state is fucked. Luckily there are enough moron liberal movie star and rich people who don't mind throwing away their money to taxes that it has a tiny amount of taxed income streams but even with that california is BANKRUPT.

Complaining that a significant group of people are leading to the demise of the economy and the country . . . let's see, where have we heard that before?

I hope you're not referencing black people, because if so, your premise is very faulty. We (I'm black) were brought here by force and enslaved for hundreds of years before we were emancipated. We were here *prior* to the writing of the Constitution and when the injustices were finally realized by society, amendments were made to grant us freedom and full liberty.

Illegals enter our borders *after* the writing of the Constitution, so at their very entry in the US, they are criminals and should be offered no protection under US law. They certainly shouldn't be allowed to benefit from many government services.

Either enter legally or don't enter. What's so hard (or wrong) about that? I wouldn't be so bold as to enter another country illegally and not expect to be told/asked to leave and I certainly wouldn't insist that it's my right to have access to welfare, free education, free healthcare, etc. It's really quite absurd.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:against, and for changing automatic birth citizenship to when at least 1 parent is a citizen. No more anchor babies.

Why do you hate the Constitution?

The Constitutionnever intended for coutries near our borders to have their citizens sneak over and plop out babies to get free benifits and all the things that come with citizenship. The balance of income vs expendetures is going to bankrupt our nation. You can't have all these poor new people coming in getting public assistance when the parents never paid a dime into the system, it unsustainable. look at california, that state is fucked. Luckily there are enough moron liberal movie star and rich people who don't mind throwing away their money to taxes that it has a tiny amount of taxed income streams but even with that california is BANKRUPT.

Complaining that a significant group of people are leading to the demise of the economy and the country . . . let's see, where have we heard that before?

I hope you're not referencing black people, because if so, your premise is very faulty. We (I'm black) were brought here by force and enslaved for hundreds of years before we were emancipated. We were here *prior* to the writing of the Constitution and when the injustices were finally realized by society, amendments were made to grant us freedom and full liberty.

Illegals enter our borders *after* the writing of the Constitution, so at their very entry in the US, they are criminals and should be offered no protection under US law. They certainly shouldn't be allowed to benefit from many government services.

Either enter legally or don't enter. What's so hard (or wrong) about that? I wouldn't be so bold as to enter another country illegally and not expect to be told/asked to leave and I certainly wouldn't insist that it's my right to have access to welfare, free education, free healthcare, etc. It's really quite absurd.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:against, and for changing automatic birth citizenship to when at least 1 parent is a citizen. No more anchor babies.

Why do you hate the Constitution?

The Constitutionnever intended for coutries near our borders to have their citizens sneak over and plop out babies to get free benifits and all the things that come with citizenship. The balance of income vs expendetures is going to bankrupt our nation. You can't have all these poor new people coming in getting public assistance when the parents never paid a dime into the system, it unsustainable. look at california, that state is fucked. Luckily there are enough moron liberal movie star and rich people who don't mind throwing away their money to taxes that it has a tiny amount of taxed income streams but even with that california is BANKRUPT.

Complaining that a significant group of people are leading to the demise of the economy and the country . . . let's see, where have we heard that before?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:against, and for changing automatic birth citizenship to when at least 1 parent is a citizen. No more anchor babies.

Why do you hate the Constitution?

The Constitutionnever intended for coutries near our borders to have their citizens sneak over and plop out babies to get free benifits and all the things that come with citizenship. The balance of income vs expendetures is going to bankrupt our nation. You can't have all these poor new people coming in getting public assistance when the parents never paid a dime into the system, it unsustainable. look at california, that state is fucked. Luckily there are enough moron liberal movie star and rich people who don't mind throwing away their money to taxes that it has a tiny amount of taxed income streams but even with that california is BANKRUPT.