Anonymous wrote:^^ Then perhaps you should seek out news sources that don't cover entertainment news. They exist. You stop being lazy and find them.

Amy Winehouse dying is not "real" news and she was on EVERY channel this morning other than CSpan and ESPN. I'm not lazy, the news is just a joke most mornings. Let's not cover the ongoing issue with out national debt or the terror in Norway, let's have more conversations about Amy Winehouse. There is real news out there, today's news media & journalists just chose not to cover it because the typical person watching is too stupid to understand the "real" news. The need the soap opera version.

^^ Then perhaps you should seek out news sources that don't cover entertainment news. They exist. You stop being lazy and find them.

I'm really done with Amy. They can stop showing her all over the news now. She was not Elvis, Madonna, Michael Jackson. She wasn't that much of an icon. There is so much more going on in the world that is far more tragic than her death. To turn the news on and see her on every channel days after her death is just ridiculous at this point. I am sad for her family, she did die very young, it's unfortunate she had such a problem with drugs, but so do many other people who die every day in the USA and we do not see them in the news.

Maybe her death will bring the war on drugs to the forefront in this country and more addicts will chose to get help, some lives will be saved, but for the love of GOD I do not want to watch another news segment on her. I do not care.

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Anonymous wrote:Addiction kills. Just like cancer. It just manifests differently.

I understand the anger people are expressing in this thread. We attempted tough love and it failed. He died. But we didn't have another option. I imagine Amy and her family didn't either.

My heart is with all of them tonight.

I know that addiction is an awful thing but I find the comparison to cancer somewhat offensive, especially since I lost my Dad to a very aggressive cancer and I have seen numerous other friends and acquaintances suffer through it. You don't have choices with cancer, you can't prevent it and often there are no effective treatments. If you are an addict, you can make a conscience choice to turn your life around or not.

Well, not to be too argumentative but some people do say that smokers who get lung cancer or any other kind related to smoking complications had a choice, no? I'm sorry about your dad. I too have lost loved ones to cancer and fully expect to lose my parents to it as well.

I watched my mother's only sister die of lung cancer and she never smoked a day in her life.

As far as Amy Winehouse, I don't know her and I really don't care. I feel sorry for her family that she put them through so much pain, but other than that I can't work up anything else over her passing. People die every day, it's a part of life. Some circumstances are more tragic than others, but in the end we all die. One famous junkie's passing doesn't have any more weight than anyone else's.

I know. That's why I said "some people say," not that I believed it. My mom will most likely die from a smoking-related cancer despite the fact that she has never smoked in her life either.

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Anonymous wrote:Addiction kills. Just like cancer. It just manifests differently.

I understand the anger people are expressing in this thread. We attempted tough love and it failed. He died. But we didn't have another option. I imagine Amy and her family didn't either.

My heart is with all of them tonight.

I know that addiction is an awful thing but I find the comparison to cancer somewhat offensive, especially since I lost my Dad to a very aggressive cancer and I have seen numerous other friends and acquaintances suffer through it. You don't have choices with cancer, you can't prevent it and often there are no effective treatments. If you are an addict, you can make a conscience choice to turn your life around or not.

Well, not to be too argumentative but some people do say that smokers who get lung cancer or any other kind related to smoking complications had a choice, no? I'm sorry about your dad. I too have lost loved ones to cancer and fully expect to lose my parents to it as well.

I watched my mother's only sister die of lung cancer and she never smoked a day in her life.

As far as Amy Winehouse, I don't know her and I really don't care. I feel sorry for her family that she put them through so much pain, but other than that I can't work up anything else over her passing. People die every day, it's a part of life. Some circumstances are more tragic than others, but in the end we all die. One famous junkie's passing doesn't have any more weight than anyone else's.

Amy was a celebrity of sorts. Regardless of what you think of her music, it had achieved international acclaim. Whenever someone who is well known dies there is often an outpouring of support and love and people tend to remember the good times, the good music, the good concerts. Millions of people bought her records, listened to her in their homes, went to her concerts and that creates a connection. I don't think that is romanticizing her death, more just a normal reaction to a loss of someone they 'knew'. Rarely do people talk poorly or focus on the faults or the weaknesses of someone after their death. Yes, her parents knew she would likely not make it, apparently she started using when she was 13. I think every family still clings to the hope that their loved one will turn it around, will survive rock bottom, will come out the other side. There is also something about the music industry, musicians, creativity and drug use that seems to be intertwined. Of course people still make their own choices but it is a society, a culture, powerful people that one must go against to stay clean and sober in that industry. Her songs resonated with people because they were 'real' and about angst and to me spoke of a young woman didn't seem to be happy or secure or content. You can't buy those things with money or fame. Had she been another bubblegum pop star she might be alive now but likely not famous. I just think life is a lot more complex than she chose to be an addict and die.

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Anonymous wrote:Addiction kills. Just like cancer. It just manifests differently.

I understand the anger people are expressing in this thread. We attempted tough love and it failed. He died. But we didn't have another option. I imagine Amy and her family didn't either.

My heart is with all of them tonight.

I know that addiction is an awful thing but I find the comparison to cancer somewhat offensive, especially since I lost my Dad to a very aggressive cancer and I have seen numerous other friends and acquaintances suffer through it. You don't have choices with cancer, you can't prevent it and often there are no effective treatments. If you are an addict, you can make a conscience choice to turn your life around or not.

Well, not to be too argumentative but some people do say that smokers who get lung cancer or any other kind related to smoking complications had a choice, no? I'm sorry about your dad. I too have lost loved ones to cancer and fully expect to lose my parents to it as well.

True, but many cancer patients, like my father, were in perfect health prior to getting sick. You think that all the kids at St. Jude's receiving cancer treatment were smokers?

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Anonymous wrote:Addiction kills. Just like cancer. It just manifests differently.

I understand the anger people are expressing in this thread. We attempted tough love and it failed. He died. But we didn't have another option. I imagine Amy and her family didn't either.

My heart is with all of them tonight.

I know that addiction is an awful thing but I find the comparison to cancer somewhat offensive, especially since I lost my Dad to a very aggressive cancer and I have seen numerous other friends and acquaintances suffer through it. You don't have choices with cancer, you can't prevent it and often there are no effective treatments. If you are an addict, you can make a conscience choice to turn your life around or not.

Well, not to be too argumentative but some people do say that smokers who get lung cancer or any other kind related to smoking complications had a choice, no? I'm sorry about your dad. I too have lost loved ones to cancer and fully expect to lose my parents to it as well.

Anonymous wrote:Addiction kills. Just like cancer. It just manifests differently.

I understand the anger people are expressing in this thread. We attempted tough love and it failed. He died. But we didn't have another option. I imagine Amy and her family didn't either.

My heart is with all of them tonight.

I know that addiction is an awful thing but I find the comparison to cancer somewhat offensive, especially since I lost my Dad to a very aggressive cancer and I have seen numerous other friends and acquaintances suffer through it. You don't have choices with cancer, you can't prevent it and often there are no effective treatments. If you are an addict, you can make a conscience choice to turn your life around or not.

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Yes, she was a human. I am still more torn up about the 90 plus innocent kids that were shot to death while running in terror away from a man dressed as a police officer. Much more tragic and much more horrifying than a junkie addict who had everything yet still chose to do drugs and fail at rehab. Amy did not deserve to die but I am not understanding how some people are romanticizing her death. It's tragic but even her mother knew it was only a matter of time (see quote).


Just a day after her unfortunate death, Amy Winehouse‘s parents, Mitch and Janis — seen above with the ‘Rehab’ singer’s wax figure — have come forward to make statements regarding her passing.

Unfortunately, Winehouse’s mother Janis told reporters that she saw her daughter just 24 hours before she died, and predicted that Amy would die in “only a matter of time.”

Yes, I read that, and I think it's sad as hell. who is romanticizing it? Certainly not the poster you quoted nor anyone else on this thread. But you're the type who thinks she "chose" to fail at rehab. Good god, there is no limit on some people's stupidity.

I am not the type who thinks she "chose" to fail. How can I say that I think it's a physical disease and also think people choose to fail? I understand how painful the withdrawal is and how it's not necessarily something she wanted to be doing, however I do think that after X amounts of time in rehab you really have to stop and say to yourself "okay, I cannot help this person until THEY want to help themselves." In Amy's case I think even her parent's understood she was beyond being forced into help.

Good god, there is no limit on the way some people stupidly assume they know how someone thinks or what they know. I'm allowed to disagree with you, it doesn't make me stupid. There is addiction in my family. I've been told by professionals that while someone does not "chose" to fail at rehab, they, and they alone, really do control whether or not they are successful. Does that make me sound less stupid?

Addiction kills. Just like cancer. It just manifests differently.

I understand the anger people are expressing in this thread. We attempted tough love and it failed. He died. But we didn't have another option. I imagine Amy and her family didn't either.

My heart is with all of them tonight.

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Yes, she was a human. I am still more torn up about the 90 plus innocent kids that were shot to death while running in terror away from a man dressed as a police officer. Much more tragic and much more horrifying than a junkie addict who had everything yet still chose to do drugs and fail at rehab. Amy did not deserve to die but I am not understanding how some people are romanticizing her death. It's tragic but even her mother knew it was only a matter of time (see quote).


Just a day after her unfortunate death, Amy Winehouse‘s parents, Mitch and Janis — seen above with the ‘Rehab’ singer’s wax figure — have come forward to make statements regarding her passing.

Unfortunately, Winehouse’s mother Janis told reporters that she saw her daughter just 24 hours before she died, and predicted that Amy would die in “only a matter of time.”

Yes, I read that, and I think it's sad as hell. who is romanticizing it? Certainly not the poster you quoted nor anyone else on this thread. But you're the type who thinks she "chose" to fail at rehab. Good god, there is no limit on some people's stupidity.

Anonymous wrote:Yet behind that addict is a human being. being a criminal or an addict is not the totality of who you are. Amy was still a person, a daughter, a sister, a friend, a member of a band. there are lots of people who knew her beyond the tabloids and beyond just seeing her as an addict. Once someone has died - no matter how they died - any sympathy and care expressed is not for them, they are dead. It is for the family and for those who loved them. Whether it be Amy's family or the family of someone killed in Oslo - both are grieving the loss of someone they loved and I feel similar compassion for both families.

Yes, she was a human. I am still more torn up about the 90 plus innocent kids that were shot to death while running in terror away from a man dressed as a police officer. Much more tragic and much more horrifying than a junkie addict who had everything yet still chose to do drugs and fail at rehab. Amy did not deserve to die but I am not understanding how some people are romanticizing her death. It's tragic but even her mother knew it was only a matter of time (see quote).


Just a day after her unfortunate death, Amy Winehouse‘s parents, Mitch and Janis — seen above with the ‘Rehab’ singer’s wax figure — have come forward to make statements regarding her passing.

Unfortunately, Winehouse’s mother Janis told reporters that she saw her daughter just 24 hours before she died, and predicted that Amy would die in “only a matter of time.”

Yet behind that addict is a human being. being a criminal or an addict is not the totality of who you are. Amy was still a person, a daughter, a sister, a friend, a member of a band. there are lots of people who knew her beyond the tabloids and beyond just seeing her as an addict. Once someone has died - no matter how they died - any sympathy and care expressed is not for them, they are dead. It is for the family and for those who loved them. Whether it be Amy's family or the family of someone killed in Oslo - both are grieving the loss of someone they loved and I feel similar compassion for both families.

using heroin is stupid. EVERYONE knows the risks. might as well be playing russian roulette. I am not losing sleep over any addict's OD. Addicts are criminals and a huge cost to society. They deserve a chance at recovery, but the habitual addicts are hopeless.