Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Vague accusations that he "only cares" about Latinos makes it sound like you just don't like that he has advocated about the Latino community.
If you knew him he’d try to help anyone but the schools his kids go to and the community is primarily Latino.
Are you trying to say having kids in a predominantly Latino school is somehow a bad thing?
DP. I'm guessing that the PP was saying in a roundabout way that Lazo is going to toe the MCPS/MoCo establishment line. That that will offer us nothing new vs. the current BOE policies/MCPS plans which consistently have failed to address student need, except on the broad, facile bases on which they routinely rely for justification. And that that will continue the have/have-not and high-/low-expectation dichotomies among schools, disadvantaging those lower-income MoCo communities in which Latinx, currently, are disproportionately situated.
Because his Latino kids go to school with lots of other Latino kids? That is an Fed up and nonsensical way to argue what you claim the PP is arguing. MCPS is not going downhill because it cares too much about Latinos lol...
Not at all what I was suggesting might be the message.
MCPS makes decisions that end up reinforcing the social status quo while paying lip service to broader definitions of equity which might upset that status quo. In the light of a student's academic need, they set up an environment of low expectations, and parallel lower-ceilinged academic delivery, wherever there is not a large proportion of families either pushing with significant academic supports outside of those provided by the school system or setting kids' expectations based on their own high academic achievement.
Those large proportions at the local school level correlate closely with areas of higher wealth. Whether the individual student has capability or motivation to achieve matters little in this paradigm -- MCPS simply fails to provide equivalent opportunity.
If characterization of Mr. Lazo as an insider is correct, he, like many insiders, political or school-based, may have been able to better ensure access to programs more aligned with the needs of his own kids, but he might not rock the boat to ensure that for others. With the above-described MCPS setup, that positioning might continue to leave. those in lower-wealth areas, which currently have higher Latinx representation in their schools, without equivalent access to the opportunites afforded more readily to those in higher-wealth (and lower underrepresented minority) areas of the county.
That poster might chime in with their own clarification of their "If you knew him" claim.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Vague accusations that he "only cares" about Latinos makes it sound like you just don't like that he has advocated about the Latino community.
If you knew him he’d try to help anyone but the schools his kids go to and the community is primarily Latino.
Are you trying to say having kids in a predominantly Latino school is somehow a bad thing?
DP. I'm guessing that the PP was saying in a roundabout way that Lazo is going to toe the MCPS/MoCo establishment line. That that will offer us nothing new vs. the current BOE policies/MCPS plans which consistently have failed to address student need, except on the broad, facile bases on which they routinely rely for justification. And that that will continue the have/have-not and high-/low-expectation dichotomies among schools, disadvantaging those lower-income MoCo communities in which Latinx, currently, are disproportionately situated.
Because his Latino kids go to school with lots of other Latino kids? That is an Fed up and nonsensical way to argue what you claim the PP is arguing. MCPS is not going downhill because it cares too much about Latinos lol...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Vague accusations that he "only cares" about Latinos makes it sound like you just don't like that he has advocated about the Latino community.
If you knew him he’d try to help anyone but the schools his kids go to and the community is primarily Latino.
Are you trying to say having kids in a predominantly Latino school is somehow a bad thing?
DP. I'm guessing that the PP was saying in a roundabout way that Lazo is going to toe the MCPS/MoCo establishment line. That that will offer us nothing new vs. the current BOE policies/MCPS plans which consistently have failed to address student need, except on the broad, facile bases on which they routinely rely for justification. And that that will continue the have/have-not and high-/low-expectation dichotomies among schools, disadvantaging those lower-income MoCo communities in which Latinx, currently, are disproportionately situated.
Because his Latino kids go to school with lots of other Latino kids? That is a Fed up and nonsensical way to argue what you claim the PP is arguing. MCPS is not going downhill because it cares too much about Latinos lol...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Vague accusations that he "only cares" about Latinos makes it sound like you just don't like that he has advocated about the Latino community.
If you knew him he’d try to help anyone but the schools his kids go to and the community is primarily Latino.
Are you trying to say having kids in a predominantly Latino school is somehow a bad thing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Vague accusations that he "only cares" about Latinos makes it sound like you just don't like that he has advocated about the Latino community.
If you knew him he’d try to help anyone but the schools his kids go to and the community is primarily Latino.
Are you trying to say having kids in a predominantly Latino school is somehow a bad thing?
DP. I'm guessing that the PP was saying in a roundabout way that Lazo is going to toe the MCPS/MoCo establishment line. That that will offer us nothing new vs. the current BOE policies/MCPS plans which consistently have failed to address student need, except on the broad, facile bases on which they routinely rely for justification. And that that will continue the have/have-not and high-/low-expectation dichotomies among schools, disadvantaging those lower-income MoCo communities in which Latinx, currently, are disproportionately situated.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So I need specifics. What did he say, how does that compare to other candidates.
Are you ok? You need to check yourself.
1) I, as an anonymous poster on DCUM, don't owe you, also an anonymous poster on DCUM, my free labor to do candidate research. I don't work for Lazo's campaign or any of his opponents. I'm just an eligible voter. If you want to use your free time to review Omar's comments from all his public forums and interviews, have at it. I'm not doing that for you.
2) This thread is about Omar and his candidacy. Not about other opponents. You don't get to deflect candidates about his candidacy and campaign by asking what other candidates have done. Feel free to start a thread about those candidates and we can ask those questions there.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The top two advance to the November general election. With the Apple Ballot endorsement, Lazo is almost guaranteed to advance. The question is will it be Lazo vs Chase, or Lazo vs Diaz?
Will this be a “vs” situation? I thought there are two at-large members of the board. So will we vote again in November for the same two?
There are two at-large members of the board, but only one of them is being elected this year. The other will be on the ballot in 2028.
Yup. Primary voters can vote for one candidate in each seat's race. The top two for each seat advance to the general election ballot in November.
MoCo BOE positions are split, with three contested in one cycle and four the next cycle (2 years latee). The current seats up for election are
District 1: Grace Rivera-Oven running unopposed for reelection
District 5: Elma-Lorraine Diggs running unopposed for the seat currently occupied by Brenda Wolff
District 3: Cassandra Sung, Sally McCarthy, Andrew Frykman, Bret DiResta & Sharon Creed running -- top 2 advance to November's general
At-large: Omar Lazo, Brenda Diaz & Wylea Chase running -- top 2 advance to November's general
In MoCo, districted seats for BOE mean only that the candidates must reside within the particular district -- any voter throughout the county may vote for them, however, making their representation/constituency effectively at large. This is different from races for County Council districted seats, where only voters from that district get to cast ballots.
Designated as non-partisan (in name only, really), any MoCo voter (not just registered Ds or Rs) can cast a ballot for the BOE seats in this primary. Of course, primary turnout is lower, typically, than the general, and is dominated by those with party affiliation, who go to the primary polls (or mail in a ballot) with much greater likelihood than unaffiliated voters, as they are drawn by the up-ticket races, like those County Council seats or the one for County Executive.
it is so, so, sad that no one is challenging Rivera-Oven. She is TERRIBLE.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The top two advance to the November general election. With the Apple Ballot endorsement, Lazo is almost guaranteed to advance. The question is will it be Lazo vs Chase, or Lazo vs Diaz?
Will this be a “vs” situation? I thought there are two at-large members of the board. So will we vote again in November for the same two?
There are two at-large members of the board, but only one of them is being elected this year. The other will be on the ballot in 2028.
Yup. Primary voters can vote for one candidate in each seat's race. The top two for each seat advance to the general election ballot in November.
MoCo BOE positions are split, with three contested in one cycle and four the next cycle (2 years latee). The current seats up for election are
District 1: Grace Rivera-Oven running unopposed for reelection
District 5: Elma-Lorraine Diggs running unopposed for the seat currently occupied by Brenda Wolff
District 3: Cassandra Sung, Sally McCarthy, Andrew Frykman, Bret DiResta & Sharon Creed running -- top 2 advance to November's general
At-large: Omar Lazo, Brenda Diaz & Wylea Chase running -- top 2 advance to November's general
In MoCo, districted seats for BOE mean only that the candidates must reside within the particular district -- any voter throughout the county may vote for them, however, making their representation/constituency effectively at large. This is different from races for County Council districted seats, where only voters from that district get to cast ballots.
Designated as non-partisan (in name only, really), any MoCo voter (not just registered Ds or Rs) can cast a ballot for the BOE seats in this primary. Of course, primary turnout is lower, typically, than the general, and is dominated by those with party affiliation, who go to the primary polls (or mail in a ballot) with much greater likelihood than unaffiliated voters, as they are drawn by the up-ticket races, like those County Council seats or the one for County Executive.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The best thing you can say about Omar is:
- He's nice and congenial
- He's heavily focused on the Hispanic community and works closely with Diego Uriburu of the Black and Brown Coalition
- He has two daughters in the system
What concerns me about him:
- I think he has too many friends on the board and County Council and therefore, he won't be aggressive about holding the system accountable
- The MCEA endorsement means he's already got his hands tied when it comes to being a change agent, because the teachers' union isn't gonna like him if he rocks the boat too much
- His campaign has been very lowkey and under the radar. If he gets it, it'll likely be because he got the Apple ballot endorsement and not because he won the hearts and minds of the majority in Montgomery County
I’ve talked to him for other things not related and I wouldn’t underestimate him.
What about him impressed you?
He hasn’t said anything that’s gotten traction or pickup in the candidate forums or local news interviews.
Very vested in the community, understands the issues in Mcps, and does a lot to support local families struggling or issues. He’s probably better 1-1. I haven’t listened to any of the forums.
Not sure what you mean by “the community.” Do you mean the Hispanic/Latino community? That’s the only community I have seen him engage with.
I have not seen him speak out or protest on issues related to Black students, Asian students or Jewish students.
He does when you talk to him. His area is primarily Hispanic/Latino, which I am assuming i swhy you are against him.
1) I didn’t say I was against him
2) He’s running at-large and the school board positions are voted on by the entire county. Which means he represents all of Montgomery County. Not just his neighborhood.
3) Wheaton-Glenmont is an incredibly diverse area. Yes, there’s a lot of Hispanic people here but there’s a lot of other races and ethnicities too.
4) Usually it’s the candidate’s job to connect with the community, not the other way around.
Most of the other candidates have no interest in anything outside their w school.
Neither Chase nor Diaz, the two challengers to Lazo, reside in a W-school area.
Maybe you are mis-projecting from the candidates for the District 3 seat, where they have to reside in that district, mostly a W-school area?
No one should vote for Diaz in any district, period. She's is horrifyingly bad.
Anonymous wrote:So I need specifics. What did he say, how does that compare to other candidates.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The top two advance to the November general election. With the Apple Ballot endorsement, Lazo is almost guaranteed to advance. The question is will it be Lazo vs Chase, or Lazo vs Diaz?
Will this be a “vs” situation? I thought there are two at-large members of the board. So will we vote again in November for the same two?
There are two at-large members of the board, but only one of them is being elected this year. The other will be on the ballot in 2028.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The best thing you can say about Omar is:
- He's nice and congenial
- He's heavily focused on the Hispanic community and works closely with Diego Uriburu of the Black and Brown Coalition
- He has two daughters in the system
What concerns me about him:
- I think he has too many friends on the board and County Council and therefore, he won't be aggressive about holding the system accountable
- The MCEA endorsement means he's already got his hands tied when it comes to being a change agent, because the teachers' union isn't gonna like him if he rocks the boat too much
- His campaign has been very lowkey and under the radar. If he gets it, it'll likely be because he got the Apple ballot endorsement and not because he won the hearts and minds of the majority in Montgomery County
I’ve talked to him for other things not related and I wouldn’t underestimate him.
What about him impressed you?
He hasn’t said anything that’s gotten traction or pickup in the candidate forums or local news interviews.
Very vested in the community, understands the issues in Mcps, and does a lot to support local families struggling or issues. He’s probably better 1-1. I haven’t listened to any of the forums.
Not sure what you mean by “the community.” Do you mean the Hispanic/Latino community? That’s the only community I have seen him engage with.
I have not seen him speak out or protest on issues related to Black students, Asian students or Jewish students.
He does when you talk to him. His area is primarily Hispanic/Latino, which I am assuming i swhy you are against him.
1) I didn’t say I was against him
2) He’s running at-large and the school board positions are voted on by the entire county. Which means he represents all of Montgomery County. Not just his neighborhood.
3) Wheaton-Glenmont is an incredibly diverse area. Yes, there’s a lot of Hispanic people here but there’s a lot of other races and ethnicities too.
4) Usually it’s the candidate’s job to connect with the community, not the other way around.
Most of the other candidates have no interest in anything outside their w school.
Neither Chase nor Diaz, the two challengers to Lazo, reside in a W-school area.
Maybe you are mis-projecting from the candidates for the District 3 seat, where they have to reside in that district, mostly a W-school area?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The best thing you can say about Omar is:
- He's nice and congenial
- He's heavily focused on the Hispanic community and works closely with Diego Uriburu of the Black and Brown Coalition
- He has two daughters in the system
What concerns me about him:
- I think he has too many friends on the board and County Council and therefore, he won't be aggressive about holding the system accountable
- The MCEA endorsement means he's already got his hands tied when it comes to being a change agent, because the teachers' union isn't gonna like him if he rocks the boat too much
- His campaign has been very lowkey and under the radar. If he gets it, it'll likely be because he got the Apple ballot endorsement and not because he won the hearts and minds of the majority in Montgomery County
I’ve talked to him for other things not related and I wouldn’t underestimate him.
What about him impressed you?
He hasn’t said anything that’s gotten traction or pickup in the candidate forums or local news interviews.
Very vested in the community, understands the issues in Mcps, and does a lot to support local families struggling or issues. He’s probably better 1-1. I haven’t listened to any of the forums.
Not sure what you mean by “the community.” Do you mean the Hispanic/Latino community? That’s the only community I have seen him engage with.
I have not seen him speak out or protest on issues related to Black students, Asian students or Jewish students.
He does when you talk to him. His area is primarily Hispanic/Latino, which I am assuming i swhy you are against him.
1) I didn’t say I was against him
2) He’s running at-large and the school board positions are voted on by the entire county. Which means he represents all of Montgomery County. Not just his neighborhood.
3) Wheaton-Glenmont is an incredibly diverse area. Yes, there’s a lot of Hispanic people here but there’s a lot of other races and ethnicities too.
4) Usually it’s the candidate’s job to connect with the community, not the other way around.
Most of the other candidates have no interest in anything outside their w school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Vague accusations that he "only cares" about Latinos makes it sound like you just don't like that he has advocated about the Latino community.
If you knew him he’d try to help anyone but the schools his kids go to and the community is primarily Latino.
Are you trying to say having kids in a predominantly Latino school is somehow a bad thing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Vague accusations that he "only cares" about Latinos makes it sound like you just don't like that he has advocated about the Latino community.
If you knew him he’d try to help anyone but the schools his kids go to and the community is primarily Latino.