Anonymous wrote:Our DC is considered “underemployed” in law enforcement because the position doesn’t require a degree to start. Five years after earning their B.S. they earn a $102k salary and $40k+ in overtime. They get a raise every year, and sometimes two raises.

That’s better than earnings of Chemical Engineering majors at 35-45 year olds, the #1 major, BTW. Our child could retire with a full pension at 46. LOL.

Our child will make sergeant soon. That comes with a nice raise. By 35 they’ll be a lieutenant. That’s a big salary bump. That’s when 1.5x overtime rates really start to pay out.

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Anonymous wrote:I would rather know the highest paying majors 15 years after graduation.

At 15 years out, those with medical degrees will have the highest average income. At that point, there will be a lot of variability among those that chose law or finance. But engineering is likely to have the highest overall average.

and debt

Not anymore. The average debt for med school is dropping fast, with merit aid and need-baed aid available for most T50 med schools. T20ish are the ones with the best need baed aid. At many T20 schools, over 50% receive merit or need cutting costs 30-66%.

With physicians making 250-300k per year on the lower end and 600k+ for many specialties, taking out 100-200k loans or the full amount including living expenses(350k) is easy to pay back.

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Anonymous wrote:I would rather know the highest paying majors 15 years after graduation.

At 15 years out, those with medical degrees will have the highest average income. At that point, there will be a lot of variability among those that chose law or finance. But engineering is likely to have the highest overall average.

and debt

Not anymore. The average debt for med school is dropping fast, with merit aid and need-baed aid available for most T50 med schools. T20ish are the ones with the best need baed aid. At many T20 schools, over 50% receive merit or need cutting costs 30-66%.

With physicians making 250-300k per year on the lower end and 600k+ for many specialties, taking out 100-200k loans or the full amount including living expenses(350k) is easy to pay back.

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Anonymous wrote:I would rather know the highest paying majors 15 years after graduation.

At 15 years out, those with medical degrees will have the highest average income. At that point, there will be a lot of variability among those that chose law or finance. But engineering is likely to have the highest overall average.

and debt

Anonymous wrote:How is that? What is the hourly overtime rate?

Anonymous wrote:Where is he vesting in a pension at 5 years as a state employee?

Anonymous wrote:Please state where he works exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DC is considered “underemployed” in law enforcement because the position doesn’t require a degree to start. Five years after earning their B.S. they earn a $102k salary and $40k+ in overtime. They get a raise every year, and sometimes two raises.

That’s better than earnings of Chemical Engineering majors at 35-45 year olds, the #1 major, BTW. Our child could retire with a full pension at 46. LOL.

Our child will make sergeant soon. That comes with a nice raise. By 35 they’ll be a lieutenant. That’s a big salary bump. That’s when 1.5x overtime rates really start to pay out.

Ridiculous. Jobs with pensions are great...but how many extra hours is your son working to make an additional $40k? He gets zero pension until he serves 20 years. Unless he's one of those cops who fakes the overtime, he has to be working a shit ton to make another 40k.
https://cbs12.com/news/florida/crime-florida-news-jacksonville-sheriffs-office-officer-arrested-overtime-misconduct-fraud-grand-theft-employee-suspension
https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/miami-cop-fired-after-allegedly-faking-overtime-while-home-in-broward-40546806/
https://www.police1.com/police-recruitment/nopd-overtime-mismanagement-raises-fraud-concerns-inspector-general-says

https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/mpd-investigating-6-officers-for-alleged-overtime-misuse-ot-costs-on-pace-to-hit-record-breaking-30-million-in-2025/

$40k = 10 extra hours per week = one shift

Every other 7 day period he’s only scheduled to work 2 days. He gets a long weekend every other week. There’s plenty of time for extra shifts.

Every time he goes to court it’s overtime. Every time he goes to job related training it’s overtime. Attending a conference, yup, overtime. When he teaches classes it’s overtime. $40k is easy.

Oh, and he vests in the pension after 5 years on the job, so this year.

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Anonymous wrote:I would rather know the highest paying majors 15 years after graduation.

At 15 years out, those with medical degrees will have the highest average income. At that point, there will be a lot of variability among those that chose law or finance. But engineering is likely to have the highest overall average.

Anonymous wrote:I would rather know the highest paying majors 15 years after graduation.

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Anonymous wrote:silly piece. The answer is humanities into law school = $235K BigLaw Starting Salary. And if you clerked for SCOTUS, you get a signing bonus of $500,000.

- look who is foolish; maybe top 5-10% of law school grads from top schools are getting those starting salaries. Lots of people with JDs not practicing or under-employed. Just like the plethora on online or exec-MBA programs. Top positions go to the top graduates of top schools.

What’s the suicide rate for lawyers these days?

IDK about suicide rate, but I'm betting a lot more lawyers take drugs than engineers.

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Anonymous wrote:Our DC is considered “underemployed” in law enforcement because the position doesn’t require a degree to start. Five years after earning their B.S. they earn a $102k salary and $40k+ in overtime. They get a raise every year, and sometimes two raises.

That’s better than earnings of Chemical Engineering majors at 35-45 year olds, the #1 major, BTW. Our child could retire with a full pension at 46. LOL.

Our child will make sergeant soon. That comes with a nice raise. By 35 they’ll be a lieutenant. That’s a big salary bump. That’s when 1.5x overtime rates really start to pay out.

Ridiculous. Jobs with pensions are great...but how many extra hours is your son working to make an additional $40k? He gets zero pension until he serves 20 years. Unless he's one of those cops who fakes the overtime, he has to be working a shit ton to make another 40k.
https://cbs12.com/news/florida/crime-florida-news-jacksonville-sheriffs-office-officer-arrested-overtime-misconduct-fraud-grand-theft-employee-suspension
https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/miami-cop-fired-after-allegedly-faking-overtime-while-home-in-broward-40546806/
https://www.police1.com/police-recruitment/nopd-overtime-mismanagement-raises-fraud-concerns-inspector-general-says

https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/mpd-investigating-6-officers-for-alleged-overtime-misuse-ot-costs-on-pace-to-hit-record-breaking-30-million-in-2025/

Anonymous wrote:Our DC is considered “underemployed” in law enforcement because the position doesn’t require a degree to start. Five years after earning their B.S. they earn a $102k salary and $40k+ in overtime. They get a raise every year, and sometimes two raises.

That’s better than earnings of Chemical Engineering majors at 35-45 year olds, the #1 major, BTW. Our child could retire with a full pension at 46. LOL.

Our child will make sergeant soon. That comes with a nice raise. By 35 they’ll be a lieutenant. That’s a big salary bump. That’s when 1.5x overtime rates really start to pay out.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:silly piece. The answer is humanities into law school = $235K BigLaw Starting Salary. And if you clerked for SCOTUS, you get a signing bonus of $500,000.

- look who is foolish; maybe top 5-10% of law school grads from top schools are getting those starting salaries. Lots of people with JDs not practicing or under-employed. Just like the plethora on online or exec-MBA programs. Top positions go to the top graduates of top schools.

What’s the suicide rate for lawyers these days?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:silly piece. The answer is humanities into law school = $235K BigLaw Starting Salary. And if you clerked for SCOTUS, you get a signing bonus of $500,000.

- look who is foolish; maybe top 5-10% of law school grads from top schools are getting those starting salaries. Lots of people with JDs not practicing or under-employed. Just like the plethora on online or exec-MBA programs. Top positions go to the top graduates of top schools.