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Anonymous wrote:Even with the cuts, it’s still as generous, if not more generous, than what I have at my private sector job.

How many days of annual leave does everyone get in the private sector? For Deloitte, it looks like even the reduced amount of PTO is better than my PTO now.

Kind of, kind of not. For people who are billable, PTO isn't necessarily the binding constraint, the binding constraint is that you have a utilization target to meet for hours billed. The PTO you have on paper, you may not actually be able to take and still meet that target. If you do take all of that PTO, you can both miss out on compensation in the form of a bonus, but you can also get laid off because they basically have a stack ranking system due to how they do performance evals + layoffs. There have been multiple lawsuits regarding maternity leave specifically.

Anonymous wrote:Even with the cuts, it’s still as generous, if not more generous, than what I have at my private sector job.

How many days of annual leave does everyone get in the private sector? For Deloitte, it looks like even the reduced amount of PTO is better than my PTO now.

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Anonymous wrote:Please stop using term parental leave. It is Maternity leave and in a woke period they gave it to men for no reason .

Which is ripe with fraud. Plus Big 4 has super huge amount of vacation I worked there I had six weeks vacation, plus 10 holidays. Then they added paternity leave which was crazy.

When I left Big 5 I has the max amount of vacation you could accrue. Six weeks was already too much time off to meet charability goals and client needs. Add in Paternity leave I would have lost all my clients in my name. And I had a sales goal.

Stfu grandpa

+1 Feel free to cite the research that shows that parents are using parental leave fraudulently. There's lots of research that shows that paid parental leave provides significant health, economic, and developmental benefits, including reduced infant mortality, increased breastfeeding duration, improved maternal mental health, and higher labor force participation over the long run for women.

Corporations don't care. They follow the current administration and will do what they think is best to help themselves. If Project 2025 called for stoning women, they'd be all in.

This isn’t about politics. It’s about the labor market. The market for job seekers is bad, so employers don’t have to compete with these types of benefits to get employees. It’s why leave needs to be government-mandated.

THIS. This is the most important takeaway here. Big companies know there’s a recession coming so they won’t need great benefits to attract employees anymore.

Yah, maybe. But bad press is also a thing and this isn't a good look for these two companies. I love how Gen Z will turn down jobs on principle.

Anonymous wrote:I wonder why they wouldn’t just shorten it rather than eliminate it

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Anonymous wrote:Please stop using term parental leave. It is Maternity leave and in a woke period they gave it to men for no reason .

Which is ripe with fraud. Plus Big 4 has super huge amount of vacation I worked there I had six weeks vacation, plus 10 holidays. Then they added paternity leave which was crazy.

When I left Big 5 I has the max amount of vacation you could accrue. Six weeks was already too much time off to meet charability goals and client needs. Add in Paternity leave I would have lost all my clients in my name. And I had a sales goal.

Stfu grandpa

+1 Feel free to cite the research that shows that parents are using parental leave fraudulently. There's lots of research that shows that paid parental leave provides significant health, economic, and developmental benefits, including reduced infant mortality, increased breastfeeding duration, improved maternal mental health, and higher labor force participation over the long run for women.

Corporations don't care. They follow the current administration and will do what they think is best to help themselves. If Project 2025 called for stoning women, they'd be all in.

This isn’t about politics. It’s about the labor market. The market for job seekers is bad, so employers don’t have to compete with these types of benefits to get employees. It’s why leave needs to be government-mandated.

THIS. This is the most important takeaway here. Big companies know there’s a recession coming so they won’t need great benefits to attract employees anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:Please stop using term parental leave. It is Maternity leave and in a woke period they gave it to men for no reason .

Which is ripe with fraud. Plus Big 4 has super huge amount of vacation I worked there I had six weeks vacation, plus 10 holidays. Then they added paternity leave which was crazy.

When I left Big 5 I has the max amount of vacation you could accrue. Six weeks was already too much time off to meet charability goals and client needs. Add in Paternity leave I would have lost all my clients in my name. And I had a sales goal.

Stfu grandpa

+1 Feel free to cite the research that shows that parents are using parental leave fraudulently. There's lots of research that shows that paid parental leave provides significant health, economic, and developmental benefits, including reduced infant mortality, increased breastfeeding duration, improved maternal mental health, and higher labor force participation over the long run for women.

I don’t even understand what fraudulent parental leave is. You fake a baby?

No, you have the baby, but then give it up for adoption after the leave is over.

I adopted an infant for the parental leave, but then returned it when the leave was over. The baby wasn't a good fit for our family anyway, so I was glad to get rid of it. I got a dog instead.

You guys crack me up

+1 Did you return the baby at Whole Foods, the Staples dropoff point or UPS?

One of those lazy Susan thingies at the firehouse, where anyone can deposit a baby, no questions asked.

Oh, the take-a-baby leave-a-baby tray!

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Anonymous wrote:The U.S. is the only industrialized nation not to have paid family leave as a federal benefit.

This. THe USA makes it so hard to parent compared to other rich countries. But our top 1% controls about 30% of our nation's wealth, so at least we excel in inequality.

Oh please. Americans think other countries have 12w-12m pay at 100% salary. And that's just not the truth.

England:
First 6 weeks: 90% of average weekly earnings
Next 33 weeks: either a fixed statutory amount (£194.32/week for 2026–27) or 90% of earnings, whichever is lower
Final 13 weeks: unpaid

Canada:
Standard leave: up to 12 months total
Paid at about 55% of average earnings
Maximum around $729/week in 2026

France:
In 2026, the maximum maternity payment is about €104/day before deductions.

No offense but I don't only want to make £194.32 a week or even €104 a day (which is €728 a week). That's not maternity leave in my mind. I wanted 12 weeks paid at my salary, which is 150k or about $575 a work day. Americans could just take a year off from working and still come out ahead with more salary over the course of a few years. Americans just feel poor because we got used to a very high standard of living: constant AC/Heat, using dryers for our clothes, 2 late model cars per house, driving everywhere, large homes.

This is crazy. When I had my kids I had 12 weeks unpaid. The only lucky break I got was FMLA protecting me from being fired while gone.

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Anonymous wrote:The U.S. is the only industrialized nation not to have paid family leave as a federal benefit.

This. THe USA makes it so hard to parent compared to other rich countries. But our top 1% controls about 30% of our nation's wealth, so at least we excel in inequality.

Oh please. Americans think other countries have 12w-12m pay at 100% salary. And that's just not the truth.

England:
First 6 weeks: 90% of average weekly earnings
Next 33 weeks: either a fixed statutory amount (£194.32/week for 2026–27) or 90% of earnings, whichever is lower
Final 13 weeks: unpaid

Canada:
Standard leave: up to 12 months total
Paid at about 55% of average earnings
Maximum around $729/week in 2026

France:
In 2026, the maximum maternity payment is about €104/day before deductions.

No offense but I don't only want to make £194.32 a week or even €104 a day (which is €728 a week). That's not maternity leave in my mind. I wanted 12 weeks paid at my salary, which is 150k or about $575 a work day. Americans could just take a year off from working and still come out ahead with more salary over the course of a few years. Americans just feel poor because we got used to a very high standard of living: constant AC/Heat, using dryers for our clothes, 2 late model cars per house, driving everywhere, large homes.

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Anonymous wrote:The U.S. is the only industrialized nation not to have paid family leave as a federal benefit.

This. THe USA makes it so hard to parent compared to other rich countries. But our top 1% controls about 30% of our nation's wealth, so at least we excel in inequality.

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Anonymous wrote:Please stop using term parental leave. It is Maternity leave and in a woke period they gave it to men for no reason .

Which is ripe with fraud. Plus Big 4 has super huge amount of vacation I worked there I had six weeks vacation, plus 10 holidays. Then they added paternity leave which was crazy.

When I left Big 5 I has the max amount of vacation you could accrue. Six weeks was already too much time off to meet charability goals and client needs. Add in Paternity leave I would have lost all my clients in my name. And I had a sales goal.

As long as only women take parental leave, employers will have reasons to discriminate against women in the hiring process.

Anonymous wrote:Please stop using term parental leave. It is Maternity leave and in a woke period they gave it to men for no reason .

Which is ripe with fraud. Plus Big 4 has super huge amount of vacation I worked there I had six weeks vacation, plus 10 holidays. Then they added paternity leave which was crazy.

When I left Big 5 I has the max amount of vacation you could accrue. Six weeks was already too much time off to meet charability goals and client needs. Add in Paternity leave I would have lost all my clients in my name. And I had a sales goal.

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Anonymous wrote:Please stop using term parental leave. It is Maternity leave and in a woke period they gave it to men for no reason .

Which is ripe with fraud. Plus Big 4 has super huge amount of vacation I worked there I had six weeks vacation, plus 10 holidays. Then they added paternity leave which was crazy.

When I left Big 5 I has the max amount of vacation you could accrue. Six weeks was already too much time off to meet charability goals and client needs. Add in Paternity leave I would have lost all my clients in my name. And I had a sales goal.

Stfu grandpa

+1 Feel free to cite the research that shows that parents are using parental leave fraudulently. There's lots of research that shows that paid parental leave provides significant health, economic, and developmental benefits, including reduced infant mortality, increased breastfeeding duration, improved maternal mental health, and higher labor force participation over the long run for women.

I don’t even understand what fraudulent parental leave is. You fake a baby?

No, you have the baby, but then give it up for adoption after the leave is over.

I adopted an infant for the parental leave, but then returned it when the leave was over. The baby wasn't a good fit for our family anyway, so I was glad to get rid of it. I got a dog instead.

You guys crack me up

+1 Did you return the baby at Whole Foods, the Staples dropoff point or UPS?

One of those lazy Susan thingies at the firehouse, where anyone can deposit a baby, no questions asked.

Anonymous wrote:The U.S. is the only industrialized nation not to have paid family leave as a federal benefit.