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Anonymous wrote:Men think they are entitled to someone who is more attractive than they are, and women think they are entitled to someone who has more money than they do.

Indeed, I am. Why wouldn't I be entitled to an attractive woman? One of us has to be the less attractive one. Why does that have to be her and not me. Women say all the time that looks are not as important to them as they are for men. They value other qualities in a man a lot more than looks. Is that true, or not? Either way, I've always been glad to put it to the test.

The funny thing about this post is you don't understand or are not aware of how big of a douche it makes you look.
And your lame attempt at turning around other arguments you have heard falls flat. Because that doesn't mean they have to settle for you, which you seem to think they do.

Of course it doesn't. I didn't say I'm dragging them by the hair back to my cave. Just that I pursue them, same as I'd pursue any woman. Why should I limit my choices or decide for her what league I fall into? That makes me a douche? Please explain.

I’m an attractive slim woman of high NW. I was surprised that men who are overweight get upset or offended when rejected. When I feel somewhat romantic not not sufficiently horny to progress I would offer them to work out with me, change the diet, do hiking etc. They don’t want change shit instead resorting to blaming me for “being too picky”. If he’s a VP of an investment bank he thinks that his deep pocket compensates for dad bod. He in a way settles for women who are being dishonest with him and their feelings.

Men don’t care if women truly desire them or not. That’s concerning

Anonymous wrote:Men.

Because they seem to believe $ can undo all of their other flaws. (It does not for quality women.)

Well, in fairness, having the dollars works. How many of you married flawed men because of their high income?

Delusions change over time. An attractive woman in her 20s - which is many, many women at that age - has her pick of men. But as you go further up the age brackets, it changes. A successful, handsome man in his 30s now has his pick of women. The power dynamics have completely reversed at 35. Men have all the cards here. It gets more complicated in the 40s and 50s. There are usually divorces to deal with at this point. Attractive people who take good care of themselves at this age point can usually still find flings, often with much younger partners. But finding a life partner - for companionship, good sex, and who is also sane and solvent - becomes much more complicated. Men with money will often settle for the younger woman because she brings the body. But he often loses out on the companionship and having a real partner. It's basically transactional. And women at this age point - anecdotally - seem to make a lot of mistakes. Finding a real partner at this point is more about luck than any intrinsic power dynamics.

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Anonymous wrote:Men think they are entitled to someone who is more attractive than they are, and women think they are entitled to someone who has more money than they do.

Indeed, I am. Why wouldn't I be entitled to an attractive woman? One of us has to be the less attractive one. Why does that have to be her and not me. Women say all the time that looks are not as important to them as they are for men. They value other qualities in a man a lot more than looks. Is that true, or not? Either way, I've always been glad to put it to the test.

You are not entitled to someone who wouldn’t want you. I’m not entitled to have the most expensive car or the youngest man and I realize that.
Women need to be attracted to choose you. It’s pointless to pursue in a way, should be a two-way street.

Yeah, no shit Sherlock. Entitled, is an over-used word these days especially by women. Indeed, I feel that I'm entitled to a good life if I put in the effort to achieve it. I'm also entitled to happiness and that includes having a partner who may be out of my league by my judgement while I may be perfect, or at least good enough in her estimation. It's for her to decide of course but I'm not going to limit myself. Women certainly don't and it's normal for them to pursue high-value men. When it comes to men doing the same, why the derision?

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Anonymous wrote:Men think they are entitled to someone who is more attractive than they are, and women think they are entitled to someone who has more money than they do.

Indeed, I am. Why wouldn't I be entitled to an attractive woman? One of us has to be the less attractive one. Why does that have to be her and not me. Women say all the time that looks are not as important to them as they are for men. They value other qualities in a man a lot more than looks. Is that true, or not? Either way, I've always been glad to put it to the test.

The funny thing about this post is you don't understand or are not aware of how big of a douche it makes you look.
And your lame attempt at turning around other arguments you have heard falls flat. Because that doesn't mean they have to settle for you, which you seem to think they do.

Of course it doesn't. I didn't say I'm dragging them by the hair back to my cave. Just that I pursue them, same as I'd pursue any woman. Why should I limit my choices or decide for her what league I fall into? That makes me a douche? Please explain.

Men.

Because they seem to believe $ can undo all of their other flaws. (It does not for quality women.)

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Anonymous wrote:Men think they are entitled to someone who is more attractive than they are, and women think they are entitled to someone who has more money than they do.

Indeed, I am. Why wouldn't I be entitled to an attractive woman? One of us has to be the less attractive one. Why does that have to be her and not me. Women say all the time that looks are not as important to them as they are for men. They value other qualities in a man a lot more than looks. Is that true, or not? Either way, I've always been glad to put it to the test.

The funny thing about this post is you don't understand or are not aware of how big of a douche it makes you look.
And your lame attempt at turning around other arguments you have heard falls flat. Because that doesn't mean they have to settle for you, which you seem to think they do.

Anonymous wrote:I have a divorced friend who is divorced in her forties. She never finished college and never had a real job. She has plastic surgery and looks good for her age (48). She is still almost 50 and often says how she won’t settle. Her standards are only higher now and wants the total package.

Women get pickier as they age and as they disfigure themselves. Go figure.

I have a divorced friend who is divorced in her forties. She never finished college and never had a real job. She has plastic surgery and looks good for her age (48). She is still almost 50 and often says how she won’t settle. Her standards are only higher now and wants the total package.

Women. Both attractive and average and even below average women all want the same type of man. A not so attractive women who is smart and well educated won’t want to settle and be fighting for the same man as a very attractive women. There are not as many high earning decent men.

Men can always go younger. They can also get a woman from another country.

Well based alone on the number of supposed women here who are 40 and admit they have 10+ long checklists for what guys must have to date them, I'd say it's the women.

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Anonymous wrote:Men, it's why they fall for honeypots all the time and women very rarely do.

This is a good point. I know that if I was in a foreign country on business and a much younger, extremely handsome guy was coming on to me I’d immediately smell a rat. But men fall for this ALWAYS. I had a friend who fell for a hostess scam basically the day he got off the plane in Japan and lost $10000. “She looked like a model” he explained. And why would a model want anything to do with you??

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Anonymous wrote:Men think they are entitled to someone who is more attractive than they are, and women think they are entitled to someone who has more money than they do.

Indeed, I am. Why wouldn't I be entitled to an attractive woman? One of us has to be the less attractive one. Why does that have to be her and not me. Women say all the time that looks are not as important to them as they are for men. They value other qualities in a man a lot more than looks. Is that true, or not? Either way, I've always been glad to put it to the test.

You are not entitled to someone who wouldn’t want you. I’m not entitled to have the most expensive car or the youngest man and I realize that.
Women need to be attracted to choose you. It’s pointless to pursue in a way, should be a two-way street.

Anonymous wrote:Men, it's why they fall for honeypots all the time and women very rarely do.

This is a good point. I know that if I was in a foreign country on business and a much younger, extremely handsome guy was coming on to me I’d immediately smell a rat. But men fall for this ALWAYS. I had a friend who fell for a hostess scam basically the day he got off the plane in Japan and lost $10000. “She looked like a model” he explained. And why would a model want anything to do with you??

Anonymous wrote:If you see a couple where one partner is noticeably better looking, better groomed, etc. is it usually the man? No.

Usually if there's a noticeable mismatch, it's the woman who is more attractive. Usually the exception is for a long-married couple where the woman gets worn down and the guy looks decent.

Women are a bit more open-minded about their partners' looks, I think.

That's not been my experience. I see a lot more couples where the woman has really let herself go and you wonder how her fitter husband deals with it.

Anonymous wrote:Men think they are entitled to someone who is more attractive than they are, and women think they are entitled to someone who has more money than they do.

Indeed, I am. Why wouldn't I be entitled to an attractive woman? One of us has to be the less attractive one. Why does that have to be her and not me. Women say all the time that looks are not as important to them as they are for men. They value other qualities in a man a lot more than looks. Is that true, or not? Either way, I've always been glad to put it to the test.