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Anonymous wrote:People like you OP do not hire for jobs like I do. You could not be more run in terms of skills. I hope and want and wish to fill my jobs with American talent from a culture and language/comms perspective. However I have Russian, Indian, Chinese and ever more frequently Nigerian talent in engineering and software development to choose. You think Americans are studying and getting skilled in engineering and you are wrong. So. Totally. Wrong. Culturally, Americans do best in finance, sales, business, law. They do not do math and tech. Go to high schools and you'll see all the kids playing sports are Americans and all those playing an instrument are either American who have a strong tradition culturally in academic all around excellence or they are typically those with a foreign last name. There's a tradition of studying math, science and STEM that's rooted in tradition v cultural oh I think that might be cool but maybe I'll go where the money is and it's easier attitude among most Americans. Quite honestly the truth is Americans are rockstar sales people. They are not rock star geeks

Americans created the microchip, integrated circuits, the internet,, and the personal computer.

Using foreign talent. It has been our secret sauce. Always.

Wrong. All of those were created by people born in America, who went through the American education system.

https://www.betaboom.com/magazine/article/american-immigrants-built-generation-defining-tech

Take a look at these. Foreign born American inventors have always been critical to American success. As far back as Nikola Tesla.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2023/01/12/highly-inventive-immigrants-also-make-natives-more-innovative/

Sure, a few people. Big whoop. Your claim was we used foreign talent to invent the microchip, the internet, integrated circuits, and the personal computer, because we don't have tbe talent domestically. And you're wrong, on both counts. H1B and offshoring in tech are being used by American corporations to turn a bigger profit at the expense of American workers.

Foreign talent coupled with American talent and US laws that encourage entrepreneurship is what allows all those things to be born in the US. You can’t remove any part of that system and expect it to work.

Well, the American part is being removed, because, according to the Hiring Manager PP, Americans aren't "rock star geeks". Even though its been demonstrated that they are.

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Anonymous wrote:People like you OP do not hire for jobs like I do. You could not be more run in terms of skills. I hope and want and wish to fill my jobs with American talent from a culture and language/comms perspective. However I have Russian, Indian, Chinese and ever more frequently Nigerian talent in engineering and software development to choose. You think Americans are studying and getting skilled in engineering and you are wrong. So. Totally. Wrong. Culturally, Americans do best in finance, sales, business, law. They do not do math and tech. Go to high schools and you'll see all the kids playing sports are Americans and all those playing an instrument are either American who have a strong tradition culturally in academic all around excellence or they are typically those with a foreign last name. There's a tradition of studying math, science and STEM that's rooted in tradition v cultural oh I think that might be cool but maybe I'll go where the money is and it's easier attitude among most Americans. Quite honestly the truth is Americans are rockstar sales people. They are not rock star geeks

Americans created the microchip, integrated circuits, the internet,, and the personal computer.

Using foreign talent. It has been our secret sauce. Always.

Wrong. All of those were created by people born in America, who went through the American education system.

https://www.betaboom.com/magazine/article/american-immigrants-built-generation-defining-tech

Take a look at these. Foreign born American inventors have always been critical to American success. As far back as Nikola Tesla.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2023/01/12/highly-inventive-immigrants-also-make-natives-more-innovative/

Sure, a few people. Big whoop. Your claim was we used foreign talent to invent the microchip, the internet, integrated circuits, and the personal computer, because we don't have tbe talent domestically. And you're wrong, on both counts. H1B and offshoring in tech are being used by American corporations to turn a bigger profit at the expense of American workers.

Foreign talent coupled with American talent and US laws that encourage entrepreneurship is what allows all those things to be born in the US. You can’t remove any part of that system and expect it to work.

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Anonymous wrote:People like you OP do not hire for jobs like I do. You could not be more run in terms of skills. I hope and want and wish to fill my jobs with American talent from a culture and language/comms perspective. However I have Russian, Indian, Chinese and ever more frequently Nigerian talent in engineering and software development to choose. You think Americans are studying and getting skilled in engineering and you are wrong. So. Totally. Wrong. Culturally, Americans do best in finance, sales, business, law. They do not do math and tech. Go to high schools and you'll see all the kids playing sports are Americans and all those playing an instrument are either American who have a strong tradition culturally in academic all around excellence or they are typically those with a foreign last name. There's a tradition of studying math, science and STEM that's rooted in tradition v cultural oh I think that might be cool but maybe I'll go where the money is and it's easier attitude among most Americans. Quite honestly the truth is Americans are rockstar sales people. They are not rock star geeks

Americans created the microchip, integrated circuits, the internet,, and the personal computer.

Using foreign talent. It has been our secret sauce. Always.

Wrong. All of those were created by people born in America, who went through the American education system.

https://www.betaboom.com/magazine/article/american-immigrants-built-generation-defining-tech

Take a look at these. Foreign born American inventors have always been critical to American success. As far back as Nikola Tesla.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2023/01/12/highly-inventive-immigrants-also-make-natives-more-innovative/

Hey troll/fake hiring manager. We are not talking about not allowing any foreign born people in the US. We are discussing offshoring huge swaths of American industry at the expense of our young people who are also being saddled with educational debt, poor health care and everything else this country brings

I would love to prevent off shoring. But think about the realities for a minute. You are a multinational company. You, as an executive, have a target to hit on productivity and you are given a budget. Btw, this is directly tied to your share prices which is all your CEO and the Board worries about. You can get decent engineers in the US. But they are scattered around and are expensive. You can go to Bangalore, where your company has a building, and get competent engineers at a 1/4 the cost. These folks aren’t ever going to make it past the senior manager level. You hire in the US to find those kids who you want to become Directors and Senior Directors and VPs in the long run. So what is the VP to do?

And how does the US by policy prevent multinational companies from hiring labor internationally?

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Anonymous wrote:People like you OP do not hire for jobs like I do. You could not be more run in terms of skills. I hope and want and wish to fill my jobs with American talent from a culture and language/comms perspective. However I have Russian, Indian, Chinese and ever more frequently Nigerian talent in engineering and software development to choose. You think Americans are studying and getting skilled in engineering and you are wrong. So. Totally. Wrong. Culturally, Americans do best in finance, sales, business, law. They do not do math and tech. Go to high schools and you'll see all the kids playing sports are Americans and all those playing an instrument are either American who have a strong tradition culturally in academic all around excellence or they are typically those with a foreign last name. There's a tradition of studying math, science and STEM that's rooted in tradition v cultural oh I think that might be cool but maybe I'll go where the money is and it's easier attitude among most Americans. Quite honestly the truth is Americans are rockstar sales people. They are not rock star geeks

Americans created the microchip, integrated circuits, the internet,, and the personal computer.

Using foreign talent. It has been our secret sauce. Always.

Wrong. All of those were created by people born in America, who went through the American education system.

https://www.betaboom.com/magazine/article/american-immigrants-built-generation-defining-tech

Take a look at these. Foreign born American inventors have always been critical to American success. As far back as Nikola Tesla.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2023/01/12/highly-inventive-immigrants-also-make-natives-more-innovative/

Sure, a few people. Big whoop. Your claim was we used foreign talent to invent the microchip, the internet, integrated circuits, and the personal computer, because we don't have tbe talent domestically. And you're wrong, on both counts. H1B and offshoring in tech are being used by American corporations to turn a bigger profit at the expense of American workers.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of qualified American tech workers struggling to find work right now.

H1-B and offshoring has been massively abused by US tech companies to undercut and screw over our own homegrown talent.

It needs to end.

follow @chrisbrunet on Twitter. Great examples of how H1B is used to replace US citizens.

Especially how ...
- US universities claim they can't find "skilled" labor
- US universities train our children for "skilled" labor but apparently fail.
- Democrats sue to keep US universities ability to replace US citizens and continue to "fail" at producing skilled labor.

It would be comical if it was not so damaging. and somehow liberals believe this nonsense.

Texas A&M University just hired an H-1B "Operations Research and Reporting Analyst"

Salary: $57,262

The TAMU employee in charge of facilitating this hire was Sahar Zubairy, Senior Immigration Coordinator

Is TX A&M controlled by liberal elites? Is Larry Ellison a liberal elite? Is Trump -- they all use H1s. Heck, Trump married one.

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Anonymous wrote:People like you OP do not hire for jobs like I do. You could not be more run in terms of skills. I hope and want and wish to fill my jobs with American talent from a culture and language/comms perspective. However I have Russian, Indian, Chinese and ever more frequently Nigerian talent in engineering and software development to choose. You think Americans are studying and getting skilled in engineering and you are wrong. So. Totally. Wrong. Culturally, Americans do best in finance, sales, business, law. They do not do math and tech. Go to high schools and you'll see all the kids playing sports are Americans and all those playing an instrument are either American who have a strong tradition culturally in academic all around excellence or they are typically those with a foreign last name. There's a tradition of studying math, science and STEM that's rooted in tradition v cultural oh I think that might be cool but maybe I'll go where the money is and it's easier attitude among most Americans. Quite honestly the truth is Americans are rockstar sales people. They are not rock star geeks

Americans created the microchip, integrated circuits, the internet,, and the personal computer.

Using foreign talent. It has been our secret sauce. Always.

Wrong. All of those were created by people born in America, who went through the American education system.

https://www.betaboom.com/magazine/article/american-immigrants-built-generation-defining-tech

Take a look at these. Foreign born American inventors have always been critical to American success. As far back as Nikola Tesla.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2023/01/12/highly-inventive-immigrants-also-make-natives-more-innovative/

Hey troll/fake hiring manager. We are not talking about not allowing any foreign born people in the US. We are discussing offshoring huge swaths of American industry at the expense of our young people who are also being saddled with educational debt, poor health care and everything else this country brings

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Anonymous wrote:People like you OP do not hire for jobs like I do. You could not be more run in terms of skills. I hope and want and wish to fill my jobs with American talent from a culture and language/comms perspective. However I have Russian, Indian, Chinese and ever more frequently Nigerian talent in engineering and software development to choose. You think Americans are studying and getting skilled in engineering and you are wrong. So. Totally. Wrong. Culturally, Americans do best in finance, sales, business, law. They do not do math and tech. Go to high schools and you'll see all the kids playing sports are Americans and all those playing an instrument are either American who have a strong tradition culturally in academic all around excellence or they are typically those with a foreign last name. There's a tradition of studying math, science and STEM that's rooted in tradition v cultural oh I think that might be cool but maybe I'll go where the money is and it's easier attitude among most Americans. Quite honestly the truth is Americans are rockstar sales people. They are not rock star geeks

Americans created the microchip, integrated circuits, the internet,, and the personal computer.

Using foreign talent. It has been our secret sauce. Always.

Wrong. All of those were created by people born in America, who went through the American education system.

https://www.betaboom.com/magazine/article/american-immigrants-built-generation-defining-tech

Take a look at these. Foreign born American inventors have always been critical to American success. As far back as Nikola Tesla.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2023/01/12/highly-inventive-immigrants-also-make-natives-more-innovative/

Anonymous wrote:People like you OP do not hire for jobs like I do. You could not be more run in terms of skills. I hope and want and wish to fill my jobs with American talent from a culture and language/comms perspective. However I have Russian, Indian, Chinese and ever more frequently Nigerian talent in engineering and software development to choose. You think Americans are studying and getting skilled in engineering and you are wrong. So. Totally. Wrong. Culturally, Americans do best in finance, sales, business, law. They do not do math and tech. Go to high schools and you'll see all the kids playing sports are Americans and all those playing an instrument are either American who have a strong tradition culturally in academic all around excellence or they are typically those with a foreign last name. There's a tradition of studying math, science and STEM that's rooted in tradition v cultural oh I think that might be cool but maybe I'll go where the money is and it's easier attitude among most Americans. Quite honestly the truth is Americans are rockstar sales people. They are not rock star geeks

Op here. You are lying. I can’t decide if it’s on purpose or unintentional. You do not try to hire Americans. Tell me what jobs you are currently hiring for and where you have looked in the US?

Let’s start.
AI engineers.
Go

Anonymous wrote:If we don't have workforce educated and trained for these jobs than that need to he changed, more work visas aren't a solution.

Agree. I don’t believe it of course. But agree

If we don't have workforce educated and trained for these jobs than that need to he changed, more work visas aren't a solution.

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Anonymous wrote:We don't need them

Apparently Trump doesn’t agree with you. He’s had over a year to fix this.

The bar so low that he's still the best for the job though.

Anonymous wrote:We don't need them

Apparently Trump doesn’t agree with you. He’s had over a year to fix this.

We don't need them

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Anonymous wrote:H1B has NOTHING to do with filling skilled labor.

2 questions I challenge folks to answer ...

1. how could we have a skills shortage for over 36 years?

H1B was created by Bush Immigration act 1990 to address a mythical skills shortage, but that was the propaganda, it really was created to reduce salaries for US workers with Masters and PHds.

see -> https://users.nber.org/~sewp/references/archive/weinsteinhowandwhygovernment.pdf

2. why are H1B visas allocated randomly, why not allocate visas based on salary, since the higher salary would be for the most desired skills?

this was recommended and almost implemented in 2021 but the industry roared about this, and it was ignored by Biden/Harris. The law needs to require that aliens be paid 150% of the normal wage for any of these jobs.

Repeating my post:

1. I've worked in the tech sector in SV for 20 years. In the 90s, there was absolutely a shortage of IT workers. I was able to get a job in IT even without formal training (but I picked it up reallly quickly) because companies were so desperate to find IT workers back then. My salary doubled in 2 years from $45K to 95K (again, back in the 90s). That's how desperate companies were to keep IT talent.

2. Today, the landscape is totally different. We are more global; remote work is a lot easier; these foreign countries like India, Poland, Philippines now have a more educated workforce even as their col is still pretty low. The US now has more IT workers, probably a glut of them.

so, yea, we don't need H1 workers as much today but they are cheaper, and companies seek profit and lower expenses. They don't care about American workers. Trump raising feels will reduce some visa workers but it will just hasten offshoring, not to mention that he will approve the thousands of visas for his tech financiers like Bezos and Ellison.

The U.S. tech sector keeps insisting it cannot find talent, but the data shows the opposite. The United States is producing more STEM graduates than the industry is willing to hire. The National Science Foundation reports that only about half of U.S. STEM graduates work in STEM fields. The Economic Policy Institute has repeatedly found no evidence of a broad tech labor shortage, and wages for many software roles have been flat or declining after inflation. If there were a real shortage, wages would be rising, not falling.

At the same time, the number of H1B applications has exploded. USCIS data shows that petitions jumped from 200,000 in 2019 to more than 750,000 in 2023. That is not a sign of a shortage. It is a sign of companies chasing cheaper and more easily controlled labor. Multiple studies, including research from the National Bureau of Economic Research, have documented that firms use visa programs to reduce labor costs and weaken worker bargaining power.

This has real consequences for the United States. American tech workers face longer job searches, more layoffs, and fewer entry‑level opportunities. Students see this and adjust. Computer science enrollment growth has slowed at several universities, and surveys from the Computing Research Association show declining confidence among U.S. students about long‑term career stability in tech. When young Americans decide that STEM is not worth the risk, the country loses future engineers, researchers, and innovators.

There is also a growing disconnect between the U.S. education system and the tech industry. Universities invest heavily in training domestic students, but companies increasingly bypass them in favor of offshore teams or temporary visa labor. This breaks the pipeline between American institutions and American industry. It also undermines the long‑term national interest. A country cannot maintain technological leadership if its own citizens are discouraged from entering the field.

Dialing back H1B abuse and offshoring is not about shutting out global talent. It is about restoring balance. The United States needs a tech labor market that rewards domestic training, encourages students to pursue STEM, and ensures that companies invest in the workforce of the country they operate in. Without that, the U.S. risks hollowing out its own talent base while pretending the problem does not exist.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of qualified American tech workers struggling to find work right now.

H1-B and offshoring has been massively abused by US tech companies to undercut and screw over our own homegrown talent.

It needs to end.

follow @chrisbrunet on Twitter. Great examples of how H1B is used to replace US citizens.

Especially how ...
- US universities claim they can't find "skilled" labor
- US universities train our children for "skilled" labor but apparently fail.
- Democrats sue to keep US universities ability to replace US citizens and continue to "fail" at producing skilled labor.

It would be comical if it was not so damaging. and somehow liberals believe this nonsense.

Texas A&M University just hired an H-1B "Operations Research and Reporting Analyst"

Salary: $57,262

The TAMU employee in charge of facilitating this hire was Sahar Zubairy, Senior Immigration Coordinator

You see, H-1B is for "skilled" labor that US universities are unable to produce ...

The University of Denver (@UofDenver) just posted notices of intent to hire two H-1B workers

Assistant Director of Student Affairs - salary: $59,386
IT Network Analyst - salary: $62,941

link -> https://www.du.edu/human-resources/jobs-at-du/internal-notice-filing-labor-condition-application

IMO this is a clear problem of self-interest. The people that are supposed to be training us the Universities are more interested in hiring H-1B. The very professors that are supposed to be teaching us are only able to get green cards if they can prove there are no skilled professionals but wait how can that be possible haven't, they taught here for years.

Doesn't make any sense.