Anonymous wrote:I’m contemplating applying to Fed jobs. And I worked as a contractor and have friends still in the system, so understand everything that is going on right now.

I think Feds underestimate how ruthless the private sector is, especially nowadays. I would gladly take 40 hours work weeks and being able to take sick time/PTO without worrying that I’ll be first to be targeted for a laid off.

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Anonymous wrote:At my agency you younger graduates will work for about 2 years or so and then move to private industry.

DOGE and republicans have pretty much made the working conditions worse than private industry and the pay is lower, so fed employment is just a step on the way to a career.

Assume the current administration doesn't want qualified people to actually stay, so it's a win win for them. Once the current supervisors who are constantly restraining everyone retire, we'll see what happens.

OPM doesn’t want longterm feds. I think they’re betting that AI can do everything Feds are currently doing.

Why do you say that?

https://fedscoop.com/two-year-tech-force-stints-aimed-young-approach-work-opm-director-says/

I would love to job hop and do different things, learning new things, but no one hires 50 years old that way. Also young people job hop because of remote work or more mobility (partly because they can’t afford to buy homes and have kids).

Honestly I am skeptical of what value an employee that is there for just 2 years even brings? They learn the systems and processes and then contribute for maybe 18 months, than leave? Unless they came in for a particular problem like a consultant or to build something simple like an ad campaign, it doesn’t support longer term multi year projects with staff churn. It works in tech because they are mostly making apps and such; I think with the AI efforts people will stay longer because those are much longer and more complicated engineering efforts.

Job hopping boosts income in a competitive job market, but has limited value to employers. So OPM wants basically to have a jobs program for young Republicans, and then leave for lobbying jobs? They aren’t going to do anything in that time, but I guess other hiring is down.

Yep the goal is a two year term workforce in perpetuity

https://nasaforce.gov/

Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of people dont know what happened. I get it as a fed this stuff is in our face but the general public generally isnt aware of the scale of what happened. I suspect there is also a group of people that think they will just tough it out for a few years and things will get better.

Anonymous wrote:Amazing how many agencies are hiring lately and apparently have gotten applicants. How is that possible after the year of abuse — RIFs, doge, cancellation of TW and CBAs, low or zero pay raises, 5 bullets, criticism and insults, etc etc.

If any private company did something like that, they’d never get away with it — nobody would apply to work there for a long time. So how does the federal government get away with it?

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Anonymous wrote:At my agency you younger graduates will work for about 2 years or so and then move to private industry.

DOGE and republicans have pretty much made the working conditions worse than private industry and the pay is lower, so fed employment is just a step on the way to a career.

Assume the current administration doesn't want qualified people to actually stay, so it's a win win for them. Once the current supervisors who are constantly restraining everyone retire, we'll see what happens.

OPM doesn’t want longterm feds. I think they’re betting that AI can do everything Feds are currently doing.

Why do you say that?

https://fedscoop.com/two-year-tech-force-stints-aimed-young-approach-work-opm-director-says/

I would love to job hop and do different things, learning new things, but no one hires 50 years old that way. Also young people job hop because of remote work or more mobility (partly because they can’t afford to buy homes and have kids).

Honestly I am skeptical of what value an employee that is there for just 2 years even brings? They learn the systems and processes and then contribute for maybe 18 months, than leave? Unless they came in for a particular problem like a consultant or to build something simple like an ad campaign, it doesn’t support longer term multi year projects with staff churn. It works in tech because they are mostly making apps and such; I think with the AI efforts people will stay longer because those are much longer and more complicated engineering efforts.

The federal government will work on specific problems given to it by Space X, etc. After the term ends, the lucky ones will be hired by Space X.

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Anonymous wrote:At my agency you younger graduates will work for about 2 years or so and then move to private industry.

DOGE and republicans have pretty much made the working conditions worse than private industry and the pay is lower, so fed employment is just a step on the way to a career.

Assume the current administration doesn't want qualified people to actually stay, so it's a win win for them. Once the current supervisors who are constantly restraining everyone retire, we'll see what happens.

OPM doesn’t want longterm feds. I think they’re betting that AI can do everything Feds are currently doing.

Why do you say that?

https://fedscoop.com/two-year-tech-force-stints-aimed-young-approach-work-opm-director-says/

I would love to job hop and do different things, learning new things, but no one hires 50 years old that way. Also young people job hop because of remote work or more mobility (partly because they can’t afford to buy homes and have kids).

Honestly I am skeptical of what value an employee that is there for just 2 years even brings? They learn the systems and processes and then contribute for maybe 18 months, than leave? Unless they came in for a particular problem like a consultant or to build something simple like an ad campaign, it doesn’t support longer term multi year projects with staff churn. It works in tech because they are mostly making apps and such; I think with the AI efforts people will stay longer because those are much longer and more complicated engineering efforts.

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Anonymous wrote:At my agency you younger graduates will work for about 2 years or so and then move to private industry.

DOGE and republicans have pretty much made the working conditions worse than private industry and the pay is lower, so fed employment is just a step on the way to a career.

Assume the current administration doesn't want qualified people to actually stay, so it's a win win for them. Once the current supervisors who are constantly restraining everyone retire, we'll see what happens.

OPM doesn’t want longterm feds. I think they’re betting that AI can do everything Feds are currently doing.

Why do you say that?

https://fedscoop.com/two-year-tech-force-stints-aimed-young-approach-work-opm-director-says/

I would love to job hop and do different things, learning new things, but no one hires 50 years old that way. Also young people job hop because of remote work or more mobility (partly because they can’t afford to buy homes and have kids).

Honestly I am skeptical of what value an employee that is there for just 2 years even brings? They learn the systems and processes and then contribute for maybe 18 months, than leave? Unless they came in for a particular problem like a consultant or to build something simple like an ad campaign, it doesn’t support longer term multi year projects with staff churn. It works in tech because they are mostly making apps and such; I think with the AI efforts people will stay longer because those are much longer and more complicated engineering efforts.

Job hopping boosts income in a competitive job market, but has limited value to employers. So OPM wants basically to have a jobs program for young Republicans, and then leave for lobbying jobs? They aren’t going to do anything in that time, but I guess other hiring is down.

Yep the goal is a two year term workforce in perpetuity

https://nasaforce.gov/

Anonymous wrote:It always makes sense to flush the bad apples now and then. keeps workforce on their toes and high performing.

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Anonymous wrote:At my agency you younger graduates will work for about 2 years or so and then move to private industry.

DOGE and republicans have pretty much made the working conditions worse than private industry and the pay is lower, so fed employment is just a step on the way to a career.

Assume the current administration doesn't want qualified people to actually stay, so it's a win win for them. Once the current supervisors who are constantly restraining everyone retire, we'll see what happens.

OPM doesn’t want longterm feds. I think they’re betting that AI can do everything Feds are currently doing.

Why do you say that?

https://fedscoop.com/two-year-tech-force-stints-aimed-young-approach-work-opm-director-says/

I would love to job hop and do different things, learning new things, but no one hires 50 years old that way. Also young people job hop because of remote work or more mobility (partly because they can’t afford to buy homes and have kids).

Honestly I am skeptical of what value an employee that is there for just 2 years even brings? They learn the systems and processes and then contribute for maybe 18 months, than leave? Unless they came in for a particular problem like a consultant or to build something simple like an ad campaign, it doesn’t support longer term multi year projects with staff churn. It works in tech because they are mostly making apps and such; I think with the AI efforts people will stay longer because those are much longer and more complicated engineering efforts.

Job hopping boosts income in a competitive job market, but has limited value to employers. So OPM wants basically to have a jobs program for young Republicans, and then leave for lobbying jobs? They aren’t going to do anything in that time, but I guess other hiring is down.

Anonymous wrote:If I couldn't come up with 5 bullets in 5 minutes or less I would not know how to find a different job anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:At my agency you younger graduates will work for about 2 years or so and then move to private industry.

DOGE and republicans have pretty much made the working conditions worse than private industry and the pay is lower, so fed employment is just a step on the way to a career.

Assume the current administration doesn't want qualified people to actually stay, so it's a win win for them. Once the current supervisors who are constantly restraining everyone retire, we'll see what happens.

OPM doesn’t want longterm feds. I think they’re betting that AI can do everything Feds are currently doing.

Why do you say that?

https://fedscoop.com/two-year-tech-force-stints-aimed-young-approach-work-opm-director-says/

I would love to job hop and do different things, learning new things, but no one hires 50 years old that way. Also young people job hop because of remote work or more mobility (partly because they can’t afford to buy homes and have kids).

Honestly I am skeptical of what value an employee that is there for just 2 years even brings? They learn the systems and processes and then contribute for maybe 18 months, than leave? Unless they came in for a particular problem like a consultant or to build something simple like an ad campaign, it doesn’t support longer term multi year projects with staff churn. It works in tech because they are mostly making apps and such; I think with the AI efforts people will stay longer because those are much longer and more complicated engineering efforts.