Anonymous wrote:Asking for someone else—a friend’s kid who had a lot of independence in the process but felt too lazy to actually apply and kept pushing it off. Now it’s April and she has nowhere to go.

Trying to help them figure out next steps—are there any decent schools still accepting applications (rolling or late deadlines)?

There are tons of great schools accepting applications: https://www.joinleland.com/library/a/colleges-with-late-application-deadlines

Anonymous wrote:PPs don't know anything about gap years. They're only recommended if the kid goes through the usual application process, and once accepted, requests a gap year. Otherwise, they're in competition with seniors from the year below, and they need to prove they did something with their gap year - otherwise their academic skills are a year stale.

No one is saying that it is the best possible situation or recommendable. In this case, however, the student will undoubtedly have more options applying in the fall than now. Sure she'll be competing with seniors but she will have lots and lots of options. She will have very few now.

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Anonymous wrote:Friend says her daughter really does want to attend a four-year, but struggled to narrow down a list and kept procrastinating. She didn’t ask for help, pushed things off, and then felt too lazy to get through essays. Friend also says the bigger issue is that the kid is generally very, very lazy, which they’re trying to figure out.

She’s a solid student — around a 3.8UW / ~4.2 W, SAT 1500, with all honors/7 APs, decent but not standout ECs. SLACS seem appealing to her, so Reed is a great option. She’s also a quite introverted kid. Major is Econ.

A kid with this profile who put off applying until this late probably doesn't want to leave home. That needs to be solved for. The inability to apply coupled with that GPA and SAT is pretty telling.

Honestly many kids I know would be in this situation had the parents not been heavily involved. My own kid is one of them and going to HYP. It’s an intimidating, complicated, stressful process and parents do a huge amount now. And I speak as someone who did her own apps entirely independently a generation ago.

Agree.

And I can’t believe everyone is blaming ADHD. Teens can absolutely be lazy, without ADHD. It’s also possible to get As in hard classes but be lazy in other areas. This describes a lot of teens. I guess no one is allowed to be lazy anymore without it excusing it with a mental health diagnosis

There is no such thing as SO LAZY you miss college admissions deadlines. Come on. This is on the parents. No parent I know, these days, leaves it entirely up to the kid to apply. It's a monumental task, unless you're applying to 3 schools that don't ask for essays.

And where, pray tell, is the government task force that informs all parents that times have changed? People who did this for themselves in the 80s and 90s often quite reasonably assume their children can do it for themselves today. There’s no good reason for it to have become so insanely complicated.

The high schools all have information on this and send emails and have meetings. Any parent who doesn’t realize is willfully ignorant. Plus talk to your kids!

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Anonymous wrote:Friend says her daughter really does want to attend a four-year, but struggled to narrow down a list and kept procrastinating. She didn’t ask for help, pushed things off, and then felt too lazy to get through essays. Friend also says the bigger issue is that the kid is generally very, very lazy, which they’re trying to figure out.

She’s a solid student — around a 3.8UW / ~4.2 W, SAT 1500, with all honors/7 APs, decent but not standout ECs. SLACS seem appealing to her, so Reed is a great option. She’s also a quite introverted kid. Major is Econ.

A kid with this profile who put off applying until this late probably doesn't want to leave home. That needs to be solved for. The inability to apply coupled with that GPA and SAT is pretty telling.

Honestly many kids I know would be in this situation had the parents not been heavily involved. My own kid is one of them and going to HYP. It’s an intimidating, complicated, stressful process and parents do a huge amount now. And I speak as someone who did her own apps entirely independently a generation ago.

Agree.

And I can’t believe everyone is blaming ADHD. Teens can absolutely be lazy, without ADHD. It’s also possible to get As in hard classes but be lazy in other areas. This describes a lot of teens. I guess no one is allowed to be lazy anymore without it excusing it with a mental health diagnosis

There is no such thing as SO LAZY you miss college admissions deadlines. Come on. This is on the parents. No parent I know, these days, leaves it entirely up to the kid to apply. It's a monumental task, unless you're applying to 3 schools that don't ask for essays.

And where, pray tell, is the government task force that informs all parents that times have changed? People who did this for themselves in the 80s and 90s often quite reasonably assume their children can do it for themselves today. There’s no good reason for it to have become so insanely complicated.

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Anonymous wrote:Friend says her daughter really does want to attend a four-year, but struggled to narrow down a list and kept procrastinating. She didn’t ask for help, pushed things off, and then felt too lazy to get through essays. Friend also says the bigger issue is that the kid is generally very, very lazy, which they’re trying to figure out.

She’s a solid student — around a 3.8UW / ~4.2 W, SAT 1500, with all honors/7 APs, decent but not standout ECs. SLACS seem appealing to her, so Reed is a great option. She’s also a quite introverted kid. Major is Econ.

A kid with this profile who put off applying until this late probably doesn't want to leave home. That needs to be solved for. The inability to apply coupled with that GPA and SAT is pretty telling.

Honestly many kids I know would be in this situation had the parents not been heavily involved. My own kid is one of them and going to HYP. It’s an intimidating, complicated, stressful process and parents do a huge amount now. And I speak as someone who did her own apps entirely independently a generation ago.

Agree.

And I can’t believe everyone is blaming ADHD. Teens can absolutely be lazy, without ADHD. It’s also possible to get As in hard classes but be lazy in other areas. This describes a lot of teens. I guess no one is allowed to be lazy anymore without it excusing it with a mental health diagnosis

There is no such thing as SO LAZY you miss college admissions deadlines. Come on. This is on the parents. No parent I know, these days, leaves it entirely up to the kid to apply. It's a monumental task, unless you're applying to 3 schools that don't ask for essays.

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Anonymous wrote:Friend says her daughter really does want to attend a four-year, but struggled to narrow down a list and kept procrastinating. She didn’t ask for help, pushed things off, and then felt too lazy to get through essays. Friend also says the bigger issue is that the kid is generally very, very lazy, which they’re trying to figure out.

She’s a solid student — around a 3.8UW / ~4.2 W, SAT 1500, with all honors/7 APs, decent but not standout ECs. SLACS seem appealing to her, so Reed is a great option. She’s also a quite introverted kid. Major is Econ.

This story just does not add up. Either the kid or the parents must have some psychological issues.... Or we have a troll. Very very lazy kids don't get high GPA and SAT. And no reasonable parents would just figure out in April that kid has not applied anywhere and NOW they need to help.

Why do you assume that all parents are reasonable? Or that there are no kids smart enough to do well in high school and on the SAT despite being very very lazy?

Anyway there are still many schools with seats open for the fall, so the kid will be fine.

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Anonymous wrote:Friend says her daughter really does want to attend a four-year, but struggled to narrow down a list and kept procrastinating. She didn’t ask for help, pushed things off, and then felt too lazy to get through essays. Friend also says the bigger issue is that the kid is generally very, very lazy, which they’re trying to figure out.

She’s a solid student — around a 3.8UW / ~4.2 W, SAT 1500, with all honors/7 APs, decent but not standout ECs. SLACS seem appealing to her, so Reed is a great option. She’s also a quite introverted kid. Major is Econ.

This story just does not add up. Either the kid or the parents must have some psychological issues.... Or we have a troll. Very very lazy kids don't get high GPA and SAT. And no reasonable parents would just figure out in April that kid has not applied anywhere and NOW they need to help.

It adds up perfectly. A friend’s situation is very similar. Super smart kid but also ADHD and depression. He doesn’t see the point of homework- so doesn’t do it. But walks in and gets 100 on the test and has around a 32 ACT. Gets 5s on his AP tests. He also refuses any input from the parents. His GPA is lower than the student referenced by OP but if he had done any homework/projects it could have been much higher. The parents have tried a bunch of different methods and he sees a psychologist but at this point are just letting him do his thing. It definitely looks like he’s lazy but it’s actually just a lot of issues. He refused to do the common app and instead just applied to schools one at time, when he felt like it, by the school application and refused any guidance or assistance. After many no’s he just got an acceptance to a college the other day. Some kids have a mix of struggles and just don’t fit the normal path. It’s frustrating for the parents.

Anonymous wrote:Friend says her daughter really does want to attend a four-year, but struggled to narrow down a list and kept procrastinating. She didn’t ask for help, pushed things off, and then felt too lazy to get through essays. Friend also says the bigger issue is that the kid is generally very, very lazy, which they’re trying to figure out.

She’s a solid student — around a 3.8UW / ~4.2 W, SAT 1500, with all honors/7 APs, decent but not standout ECs. SLACS seem appealing to her, so Reed is a great option. She’s also a quite introverted kid. Major is Econ.

This story just does not add up. Either the kid or the parents must have some psychological issues.... Or we have a troll. Very very lazy kids don't get high GPA and SAT. And no reasonable parents would just figure out in April that kid has not applied anywhere and NOW they need to help.

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Anonymous wrote:Friend says her daughter really does want to attend a four-year, but struggled to narrow down a list and kept procrastinating. She didn’t ask for help, pushed things off, and then felt too lazy to get through essays. Friend also says the bigger issue is that the kid is generally very, very lazy, which they’re trying to figure out.

She’s a solid student — around a 3.8UW / ~4.2 W, SAT 1500, with all honors/7 APs, decent but not standout ECs. SLACS seem appealing to her, so Reed is a great option. She’s also a quite introverted kid. Major is Econ.

A kid with this profile who put off applying until this late probably doesn't want to leave home. That needs to be solved for. The inability to apply coupled with that GPA and SAT is pretty telling.

Honestly many kids I know would be in this situation had the parents not been heavily involved. My own kid is one of them and going to HYP. It’s an intimidating, complicated, stressful process and parents do a huge amount now. And I speak as someone who did her own apps entirely independently a generation ago.

Agree.

And I can’t believe everyone is blaming ADHD. Teens can absolutely be lazy, without ADHD. It’s also possible to get As in hard classes but be lazy in other areas. This describes a lot of teens. I guess no one is allowed to be lazy anymore without it excusing it with a mental health diagnosis