Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Absolutely. Take it from someone whose kids are 24 and 26 and don't vacation with us any more. Make those memories.
Why not? My kids are 27 and 23. Spent 2 weeks in Europe in Dec and have another trip for summer (2 weeks again) with them. They still love to vacation with us, and we will happily welcome them and their SO (and eventually any grandkids) and help pay for it all.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP we are going on vacation later this year with our 21 and 23 yos.
I don't know if you should spend the money, but you shouldn't believe that the opportunities for vacation are coming to an end.
+1
If you still offer to pay for the vacation (or majority of it), most 20 somethings will happily join for a family vacay
It’s not the same when they’re adults in their 20s, though. I am shocked how many people ITT refuse to acknowledge that obvious reality.
In many ways it's much more enjoyable. No cranky teens, kids are adults and more aware of the world (and not as self centered). It's different, and I consider it more enjoyable now as adults.
x1000
Way more enjoyable in college and post-college than in HS.
We have gone on vacations with some of our parents in our 40s/50s (some they paid, others we paid) and our kids grew up seeing that, so I'm not sure why they would feel it would stop. Lots of friends in similar position.
Spoken like a selfish parent who didn’t actually like their kids, which is why you chose to hoard money instead of take them on trips until they were old enough not to annoy you.
Is this the type of parent OP wants to take advice from?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Memories don't come from more expensive trips. Some of our most memorable trips have been National Parks and amazing hikes.
But didn’t it cost you money to get there?
DP: you find National Parks that are nearby and camp/stay at reasonable places. You can do a 7 day driving vacation that is very affordable. You don't have to spend a fortune
OP is talking about 2K you numbskull. That’s not exactly a fortune.
Depends what percentage that is of her savings. If she has at least 100k in emergency fund this is nothing but if it's 10k, she should take a cheaper vacation.
Anyone who keeps 100K in an emergency fund is already living beyond their means. Think about it.
Not really. If you make $500K+, a $100K ef is very reasonable. eG should be 9-12 months of expenses ideally. So most making $200K should have that size ef.
Nope! If you need a $100k emergency cushion you are the definition of a profligate spender.
And basing what is reasonable on some arbitrary rule of thumb means you’re an unimaginative idiot. Sorry.
No you are the idiot. Someone who spends $100k in 9 months is not a "profligate spender" if they make $200k+. Housing likely costs $40K+ alone probably more (mortgage/insurance/utilities/maintenance ), food for family of 4 is easily $1k now with the way prices are, if you like to eat fresh fruits/veggies and quality protein sources. Thats well over $50k for just that, now add in car payments, insurance, gas, and medical and clothing and other basic expenses
Basing your spending on your income is profligate. You absolutely don’t need to spend that much money - you spend that much money because you’re entitled and irresponsible.
You are in absolutely no position to be giving anyone financial advice.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Absolutely. Take it from someone whose kids are 24 and 26 and don't vacation with us any more. Make those memories.
Why not? My kids are 27 and 23. Spent 2 weeks in Europe in Dec and have another trip for summer (2 weeks again) with them. They still love to vacation with us, and we will happily welcome them and their SO (and eventually any grandkids) and help pay for it all.
Anonymous wrote:We have twins turning 15 this summer, and it’s hitting us that we probably only have 3–4 more “guaranteed” years of family travel with them. Some of our best memories together have come from trips, but as they’ve gotten older (and everything has gotten more expensive), we’ve pulled back.
Now we’re wondering if it’s worth leaning in for a few years, prioritizing more meaningful travel while we still can. The tradeoff is that we’d be building less in liquid, emergency-type savings. We live within our means, contribute steadily to retirement and college, but our cash reserves have never been especially robust.
In real terms, we’re talking about roughly $2,000 less in savings per year to fund the kind of trips we’re considering. That’s also the cushion that would help if, say, one emergency is followed by another.
So how would you weigh the pros and cons here? Has anyone made a similar choice at this stage with teens?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP we are going on vacation later this year with our 21 and 23 yos.
I don't know if you should spend the money, but you shouldn't believe that the opportunities for vacation are coming to an end.
+1
If you still offer to pay for the vacation (or majority of it), most 20 somethings will happily join for a family vacay
It’s not the same when they’re adults in their 20s, though. I am shocked how many people ITT refuse to acknowledge that obvious reality.
In many ways it's much more enjoyable. No cranky teens, kids are adults and more aware of the world (and not as self centered). It's different, and I consider it more enjoyable now as adults.
x1000
Way more enjoyable in college and post-college than in HS.
We have gone on vacations with some of our parents in our 40s/50s (some they paid, others we paid) and our kids grew up seeing that, so I'm not sure why they would feel it would stop. Lots of friends in similar position.
Spoken like a selfish parent who didn’t actually like their kids, which is why you chose to hoard money instead of take them on trips until they were old enough not to annoy you.
Is this the type of parent OP wants to take advice from?
Have you ever lived with teens? Especially teenage girls?
Obviously you have not
Love my kids, took them on plenty of trips as teens and before. But it's much more enjoyable now as 20 something's as they become adults.
And it's not selfish--if prefer all kids have the benefit of affordable college without debt before they take expensive vacations. Trust me they will appreciate that more in their 20s than the fancy trips. You can still spend quality time with them at home/ neaby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Memories don't come from more expensive trips. Some of our most memorable trips have been National Parks and amazing hikes.
But didn’t it cost you money to get there?
DP: you find National Parks that are nearby and camp/stay at reasonable places. You can do a 7 day driving vacation that is very affordable. You don't have to spend a fortune
OP is talking about 2K you numbskull. That’s not exactly a fortune.
Depends what percentage that is of her savings. If she has at least 100k in emergency fund this is nothing but if it's 10k, she should take a cheaper vacation.
Anyone who keeps 100K in an emergency fund is already living beyond their means. Think about it.
Not really. If you make $500K+, a $100K ef is very reasonable. eG should be 9-12 months of expenses ideally. So most making $200K should have that size ef.
Nope! If you need a $100k emergency cushion you are the definition of a profligate spender.
And basing what is reasonable on some arbitrary rule of thumb means you’re an unimaginative idiot. Sorry.
No you are the idiot. Someone who spends $100k in 9 months is not a "profligate spender" if they make $200k+. Housing likely costs $40K+ alone probably more (mortgage/insurance/utilities/maintenance ), food for family of 4 is easily $1k now with the way prices are, if you like to eat fresh fruits/veggies and quality protein sources. Thats well over $50k for just that, now add in car payments, insurance, gas, and medical and clothing and other basic expenses