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Anonymous wrote:The language transfer option was removed in the past month. It’s a shame that so many people seem to have abused that option, and now kids who legitimately have an interest in a particular language won’t be able to transfer.

“Abused” that option?
Why is this worse than using the remaining option of IB/AP transfers?

dp. Many kids didn't enroll in the language for which they transferred.

Yes, this.

Or they used the IB option to transfer to an AP school, but only took 1 AP class/year that was also offered at their base school, or switched to easier Dual Enrollment junior and senior year instead of AP.

Freshmen should never be allowed to transfer for AP. There are hardly any AP classes offered to freshmen, and those 1-2 classes could be offered at every school to completely eliminate freshmen AP transfers.

Easier Dual-Enrollment? At our school, those classes are more rigorous and better taught than the AP courses.

Dual is much easier than AP.

It is the bridge between honors and AP.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. The other option would be to offer all WL at every high school. This is just as important a reason to seek a pupil placement as IB-AP. I really couldn't care less about going to Langley (it's actually a hassle because I would have to adjust my work schedule to fit this), but my son is set on taking Russian as an additional WL. I don't even know how people are saying take it online. It's not available online to take. Neither FCPS Online nor Virtual VA offer Russian.

There aren't enough qualified teachers to do this. Nor is there enough interest in many of the languages or even students enrolled in the high schools to offer every single language at every single high school. FCPS offers around 3-4 languages at every high school, a few more at the large high schools where the student body and classroom allocation/building size can support more languages.

Usually, every high school has Spanish and French. They will then have a combination of 1-3 additional languages depending on the size of the school, some combination of German, Japanese, Latin, American Sign Language, Farsi, Mandarin, Korean, Russian or Arabic (perhaps more). Most high schools have between 400-650 students per grade. Not even the 600-750 students per grade schools could support a dozen languages. They would not have enough students, teachers or classroom space.

FCPS has somewhere around 55,000 high school students.

They cannot make everything exactly perfect and convenient for all 55,000 high school students.

At some point, you are either going to have to be inconvenienced to get what you want, including paying for private language instruction, taking the language online, moving to a new school pyramid that offers your desired language, or accepting that your kid might have to take one of the other 3-5 foreign languages offered at your high school, which is far more languages than the vast majority of high schools in this country.

In a district this large, not everything can be perfect for every person.

If language transfers are closed, then they are closed.

Work with the solutions you have at your school, pay for private language options, or move.

I agree with everything that you wrote.

I can understand the OP being upset because the change in pupil placing for language is new and very recent. I don’t think they did a good job discussing it or letting people know it was happening. OPs kid could have pupil placed for Russian last year and now cannot. That is annoying and upseting. A kid moving from McLean to Langley is not the kids that people were worried about with the pupil placements. Herndon to Langley, yes.

My concern is that the county is going to restrict world language to only a few at every school in the name of equity. Then do they choose the languages that have immersion programs? Japanese, Korean, French, Spanish and German? Then there are kids who lose out on a variety of other languages that are well attended at their current school.

OP, I get that it sucks for your kid and I am sorry that the option doesn’t exist for them. You might need to look into after school classes or a weekend program or your child might need to wait until college.

I had no idea until I saw it here. Now left wondering what is going to happen to DD. She has three years of language under her belt, and it's not offered online or through Virtual Virginia. Not having at least 4 years of a WL affects college outcomes.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. The other option would be to offer all WL at every high school. This is just as important a reason to seek a pupil placement as IB-AP. I really couldn't care less about going to Langley (it's actually a hassle because I would have to adjust my work schedule to fit this), but my son is set on taking Russian as an additional WL. I don't even know how people are saying take it online. It's not available online to take. Neither FCPS Online nor Virtual VA offer Russian.

There aren't enough qualified teachers to do this. Nor is there enough interest in many of the languages or even students enrolled in the high schools to offer every single language at every single high school. FCPS offers around 3-4 languages at every high school, a few more at the large high schools where the student body and classroom allocation/building size can support more languages.

Usually, every high school has Spanish and French. They will then have a combination of 1-3 additional languages depending on the size of the school, some combination of German, Japanese, Latin, American Sign Language, Farsi, Mandarin, Korean, Russian or Arabic (perhaps more). Most high schools have between 400-650 students per grade. Not even the 600-750 students per grade schools could support a dozen languages. They would not have enough students, teachers or classroom space.

FCPS has somewhere around 55,000 high school students.

They cannot make everything exactly perfect and convenient for all 55,000 high school students.

At some point, you are either going to have to be inconvenienced to get what you want, including paying for private language instruction, taking the language online, moving to a new school pyramid that offers your desired language, or accepting that your kid might have to take one of the other 3-5 foreign languages offered at your high school, which is far more languages than the vast majority of high schools in this country.

In a district this large, not everything can be perfect for every person.

If language transfers are closed, then they are closed.

Work with the solutions you have at your school, pay for private language options, or move.

I agree with everything that you wrote.

I can understand the OP being upset because the change in pupil placing for language is new and very recent. I don’t think they did a good job discussing it or letting people know it was happening. OPs kid could have pupil placed for Russian last year and now cannot. That is annoying and upseting. A kid moving from McLean to Langley is not the kids that people were worried about with the pupil placements. Herndon to Langley, yes.

My concern is that the county is going to restrict world language to only a few at every school in the name of equity. Then do they choose the languages that have immersion programs? Japanese, Korean, French, Spanish and German? Then there are kids who lose out on a variety of other languages that are well attended at their current school.

OP, I get that it sucks for your kid and I am sorry that the option doesn’t exist for them. You might need to look into after school classes or a weekend program or your child might need to wait until college.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. The other option would be to offer all WL at every high school. This is just as important a reason to seek a pupil placement as IB-AP. I really couldn't care less about going to Langley (it's actually a hassle because I would have to adjust my work schedule to fit this), but my son is set on taking Russian as an additional WL. I don't even know how people are saying take it online. It's not available online to take. Neither FCPS Online nor Virtual VA offer Russian.

There aren't enough qualified teachers to do this. Nor is there enough interest in many of the languages or even students enrolled in the high schools to offer every single language at every single high school. FCPS offers around 3-4 languages at every high school, a few more at the large high schools where the student body and classroom allocation/building size can support more languages.

Usually, every high school has Spanish and French. They will then have a combination of 1-3 additional languages depending on the size of the school, some combination of German, Japanese, Latin, American Sign Language, Farsi, Mandarin, Korean, Russian or Arabic (perhaps more). Most high schools have between 400-650 students per grade. Not even the 600-750 students per grade schools could support a dozen languages. They would not have enough students, teachers or classroom space.

FCPS has somewhere around 55,000 high school students.

They cannot make everything exactly perfect and convenient for all 55,000 high school students.

At some point, you are either going to have to be inconvenienced to get what you want, including paying for private language instruction, taking the language online, moving to a new school pyramid that offers your desired language, or accepting that your kid might have to take one of the other 3-5 foreign languages offered at your high school, which is far more languages than the vast majority of high schools in this country.

In a district this large, not everything can be perfect for every person.

If language transfers are closed, then they are closed.

Work with the solutions you have at your school, pay for private language options, or move.

Anonymous wrote:OP here. The other option would be to offer all WL at every high school. This is just as important a reason to seek a pupil placement as IB-AP. I really couldn't care less about going to Langley (it's actually a hassle because I would have to adjust my work schedule to fit this), but my son is set on taking Russian as an additional WL. I don't even know how people are saying take it online. It's not available online to take. Neither FCPS Online nor Virtual VA offer Russian.

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Anonymous wrote:The language transfer option was removed in the past month. It’s a shame that so many people seem to have abused that option, and now kids who legitimately have an interest in a particular language won’t be able to transfer.

“Abused” that option?
Why is this worse than using the remaining option of IB/AP transfers?

dp. Many kids didn't enroll in the language for which they transferred.

Yes, this.

Or they used the IB option to transfer to an AP school, but only took 1 AP class/year that was also offered at their base school, or switched to easier Dual Enrollment junior and senior year instead of AP.

Freshmen should never be allowed to transfer for AP. There are hardly any AP classes offered to freshmen, and those 1-2 classes could be offered at every school to completely eliminate freshmen AP transfers.

Easier Dual-Enrollment? At our school, those classes are more rigorous and better taught than the AP courses.

Anonymous wrote:OP here. The other option would be to offer all WL at every high school. This is just as important a reason to seek a pupil placement as IB-AP. I really couldn't care less about going to Langley (it's actually a hassle because I would have to adjust my work schedule to fit this), but my son is set on taking Russian as an additional WL. I don't even know how people are saying take it online. It's not available online to take. Neither FCPS Online nor Virtual VA offer Russian.

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Anonymous wrote:The language transfer option was removed in the past month. It’s a shame that so many people seem to have abused that option, and now kids who legitimately have an interest in a particular language won’t be able to transfer.

“Abused” that option?
Why is this worse than using the remaining option of IB/AP transfers?

dp. Many kids didn't enroll in the language for which they transferred.

Yes, this.

Or they used the IB option to transfer to an AP school, but only took 1 AP class/year that was also offered at their base school, or switched to easier Dual Enrollment junior and senior year instead of AP.

Freshmen should never be allowed to transfer for AP. There are hardly any AP classes offered to freshmen, and those 1-2 classes could be offered at every school to completely eliminate freshmen AP transfers.

Anonymous wrote:OP here. The other option would be to offer all WL at every high school. This is just as important a reason to seek a pupil placement as IB-AP. I really couldn't care less about going to Langley (it's actually a hassle because I would have to adjust my work schedule to fit this), but my son is set on taking Russian as an additional WL. I don't even know how people are saying take it online. It's not available online to take. Neither FCPS Online nor Virtual VA offer Russian.

Anonymous wrote:OP here. The other option would be to offer all WL at every high school. This is just as important a reason to seek a pupil placement as IB-AP. I really couldn't care less about going to Langley (it's actually a hassle because I would have to adjust my work schedule to fit this), but my son is set on taking Russian as an additional WL. I don't even know how people are saying take it online. It's not available online to take. Neither FCPS Online nor Virtual VA offer Russian.

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Anonymous wrote:what is the capacity % to close for transfers? is it over 100%? for the OP langley is now 102% with spring hill island moving in. irregardless of language placement it may be closed for pupil placements in general. i wonder how many of langley pupil placements (around 100) are for russian

Wshs is around 112% capacity and has been closed to transfers since before renovations began in 2016. It is still closed to transfers.

The past few years, the school has been averaging around 50 to 60 approved transfers into this closed to transfers school each year.

I believe Dr. Reid said that for the 2025-2026 school year, FCPS approved over 50 transfers into WSHS, down slightly from 2024-2025 transfers of around 60 transfer students, but still around double the number of transfers from pre covid transfer numbers of around 20-25 students, when FCPS was actually enforcing their closed to transfer rules, only allowing teachers' children and Ft. Belvoir active duty military on base residents to transfer into WSHS.

Based on WSHS, "closed to transfers" is just a label and formality, that doesn't really mean anything.

Anonymous wrote:what is the capacity % to close for transfers? is it over 100%? for the OP langley is now 102% with spring hill island moving in. irregardless of language placement it may be closed for pupil placements in general. i wonder how many of langley pupil placements (around 100) are for russian