Anonymous wrote:The only way they are similar is that they are both larger liberal arts colleges, over 5,000 students. Wake has very small class sizes and really no large intro classes (a big class may have 75 kids). Other than that, very different. Sports and Greek life a much bigger deal at Wake. All the usual differences between private and public school when it comes to facilities.

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Anonymous wrote:Have had kids at both of these schools. Similar in size, but that’s about it. In terms of facilities and buildings, William & Mary is leaps & bounds behind Wake- it’s where you can tell the difference between a public and a private school. Whoever said Wake is more country club is spot on. Lots of wealth on that campus, whereas W&M is more economically balanced as a state school. Campus populations reflect that- not a lot of folks at W&M is wearing Golden Goose and driving Land Rovers, which seems to be the standard at Wake.

Not a lot to do for social scene at W&M with no sports teams that are great and bars in the Burg not liking college kids.

Both academically rigorous.

You can't walk anywhere from the Wake campus to stuff though. W&M has four bars right next to the stadium that are packed full of students every Thurs-Sat.

There is a bar called the Filling Station walking distance from upper classmen housing and of course, Reynolda Village across the street from Wake with a restaurant, doughnut place, coffee, ice cream, etc . And there is a huge development going up right now next to Wake’s stadium called the Grounds which will add more restaurants, bars and apartments within walking distance of campus. It will be complete within the next year or so. Winston Salem is also a small city, there are plenty of bars and restaurant downtown or elsewhere around town that are less than a 10 minute uber ride away.

I looked up the bar and it looks like it closes at 10pm. Not really true nightlife. If you have to Uber to the next city over I feel like that doesn't really scream "hopping college town" which is fine but certainly not the way you described it. Safety wise there are for sure benefits to bars and clubs not requiring a drive to get to.

You sound a bit clueless, Wake is in Winston Salem, a city with a population in excess of 250,000. There are plenty of bars and restaurants in the SAME city. If you are trying to argue that there is a better social life at William and Mary, good luck to you, no one is buying that.

Wake up. Wake is in the middle of a sleepy suburban area. If you have to drive everywhere it doesn't count. Is George Mason a super fun social college because it's in a county of 1 million?

Good college towns have fun things to go within WALKING distance of campus. Do you think UVA would be just as fun if everyone had to go downtown instead of having the corner? You can't even get to the Wake football stadium on foot.

Wake is a “hot” school right now specifically for the active social life it offers. Like any other school, it has its faults, but a shortage of social activities is not one of them.

DP: only 19 thousand applicants isn't "hot". Virginia is hot, Duke is hot, UGA is hot. It's a smaller school w great academics and it's become more popular bc it's a superb option for full pay but the average kid still isn't applying there.

UGA is definitely not hot, unless one lives in Georgia. None of the private school kids even consider it.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone mentioned costs?

Wm instate COA $45k
WM OOS COA $70k
Wake Forest COA $94k

They are pretty different schools but WM definitely has Wake beat by at least $100-200k over 4 years.

Paying $70,000 a year for a public college is bonkers. I didn’t realize VA schools were so expensive even for instate. UMD instate is half the price.

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Anonymous wrote:Have had kids at both of these schools. Similar in size, but that’s about it. In terms of facilities and buildings, William & Mary is leaps & bounds behind Wake- it’s where you can tell the difference between a public and a private school. Whoever said Wake is more country club is spot on. Lots of wealth on that campus, whereas W&M is more economically balanced as a state school. Campus populations reflect that- not a lot of folks at W&M is wearing Golden Goose and driving Land Rovers, which seems to be the standard at Wake.

Not a lot to do for social scene at W&M with no sports teams that are great and bars in the Burg not liking college kids.

Both academically rigorous.

You can't walk anywhere from the Wake campus to stuff though. W&M has four bars right next to the stadium that are packed full of students every Thurs-Sat.

There is a bar called the Filling Station walking distance from upper classmen housing and of course, Reynolda Village across the street from Wake with a restaurant, doughnut place, coffee, ice cream, etc . And there is a huge development going up right now next to Wake’s stadium called the Grounds which will add more restaurants, bars and apartments within walking distance of campus. It will be complete within the next year or so. Winston Salem is also a small city, there are plenty of bars and restaurant downtown or elsewhere around town that are less than a 10 minute uber ride away.

I looked up the bar and it looks like it closes at 10pm. Not really true nightlife. If you have to Uber to the next city over I feel like that doesn't really scream "hopping college town" which is fine but certainly not the way you described it. Safety wise there are for sure benefits to bars and clubs not requiring a drive to get to.

You sound a bit clueless, Wake is in Winston Salem, a city with a population in excess of 250,000. There are plenty of bars and restaurants in the SAME city. If you are trying to argue that there is a better social life at William and Mary, good luck to you, no one is buying that.

Wake up. Wake is in the middle of a sleepy suburban area. If you have to drive everywhere it doesn't count. Is George Mason a super fun social college because it's in a county of 1 million?

Good college towns have fun things to go within WALKING distance of campus. Do you think UVA would be just as fun if everyone had to go downtown instead of having the corner? You can't even get to the Wake football stadium on foot.

Wake is a “hot” school right now specifically for the active social life it offers. Like any other school, it has its faults, but a shortage of social activities is not one of them.

DP: only 19 thousand applicants isn't "hot". Virginia is hot, Duke is hot, UGA is hot. It's a smaller school w great academics and it's become more popular bc it's a superb option for full pay but the average kid still isn't applying there.

UGA is definitely not hot, unless one lives in Georgia. None of the private school kids even consider it.

Who cares what the private school kids do. Not even 10% of the population.

And yet half of nearly every top school, starting at the tippy top.