Anonymous wrote:Well you all will be happy to know that DC hospitals are still paying new grad RN/BSNs around 75K to start and most make around 100K with 10+ years experience. You can easily make only $50K here if you're working in a physician's office or $80K in research or care management.

I have no no idea where OP gets the 275K figure from.

Can you people frigging read?

The NYT article was posted. NYC nurses make an AVERAGE of $165k already. At one hospital, the union is making demands that would push averages all the way up to $275k.

Ridiculous over compensation. The median HHI in NYC is $128k. They are demanding upwards of double the HHI. Ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:Well you all will be happy to know that DC hospitals are still paying new grad RN/BSNs around 75K to start and most make around 100K with 10+ years experience. You can easily make only $50K here if you're working in a physician's office or $80K in research or care management.

I have no no idea where OP gets the 275K figure from.

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NYC has always paid more due to cost of living. I think starting for RNs was around 70k 15 years ago in NYC when I first became a nurse.

DP to add, not sure where the 275k comes from. An IR nurse (higher paid field given very specialized experience plus risk) with 45 years of experience who also picks up overtime? Flight RNs who ride the medivac helicopters?

Anonymous wrote:Well you all will be happy to know that DC hospitals are still paying new grad RN/BSNs around 75K to start and most make around 100K with 10+ years experience. You can easily make only $50K here if you're working in a physician's office or $80K in research or care management.

I have no no idea where OP gets the 275K figure from.

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NYC has always paid more due to cost of living. I think starting for RNs was around 70k 15 years ago in NYC when I first became a nurse.

Well you all will be happy to know that DC hospitals are still paying new grad RN/BSNs around 75K to start and most make around 100K with 10+ years experience. You can easily make only $50K here if you're working in a physician's office or $80K in research or care management.

I have no no idea where OP gets the 275K figure from.

Anonymous wrote:Amazingly, the person most responsible for someone’s life or death and care is not the doctor or nurse but the cna and they get minimum wage

You are misinformed.

This industry is ripe for AI disruption. Patients are already asking Chat GPT questions that would normally be handled by a nurse hotline. Couple it with loosened restrictions on private indivisuals buying their own medical devices and supplies and who knows what the future of nursing will look like.

Pay for nurses is wildly variable. For a time during Covid, travel nurses could make serious bank working the ER and ICU in urban hospitals on short term contracts. It was such an unappealing job at the time that you really needed to pay people to take on that workload and misery.

We have a serious nursing shortage in this country for the high-intensity jobs. And those nurses do so much. A talented nurse is often the difference between life and death for patients in critical or intensive care. Plus they do triage. You want someone capable of making those judgement calls.

Meanwhile, the CEO of UnitedHealth made $26 million. The CEO of Cigna made $23 million. The CEO of Molina made $22 million. The CEO of CVS Health made $21 million. The CEO of Elevance Health made $20 million. The CEO of Humana mad $18 million.

Who are the real parasites?

GMAFB… NYC doctors make millions, it’s high time nurses made a middle class salary of 275k. You can’t even buy a 2 bedroom apartment on that much salary in NYC. This inequality in pay scales needs to be addressed.

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Anonymous wrote:NYC nurses striking claiming it is due to workload and staffing levels. Meanwhile, they're already making $165k and want to increase it up to $275k at some NY hospitals. GMAFB. That is grotesque overpay for a 4 year degree job. We are supposed to now compensate nurses more than many family docs? Talk about wage inflation spiral. If nurses make $275k I guess we have to pay teachers $200k and docs $1M now.

USA wages and cost of labor are out of control.

Union officials said that Mount Sinai and the other hospitals were offering only about $4,500 more per nurse, while declining to fund health care benefits to the same extent as before.

So basically a wash. Nurses are expected to work harder, and less safely, for the same or less pay? How many of you desk jockeys would find that acceptable? More importantly, how many of you are willing to accept less attentive care from less skilled nurses?

We’re already there in the maternity wards. C section? Great. Here’s a helpless infant for you to care for 24/7. Someone will be by in the middle of the night to check your blood pressure. No partner? Too bad.

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Anonymous wrote:We all know that nurses don't make anywhere close to what doctor's make, don;t be ridiculous. If you are surprised at whata nurse makes in NYC, I am sure you'd faint to see a doctor's salary. I'd rather watch nurses and teachers make more money than the Bill Ackmans of the world. Why do you all want the billionaires to get richer and richer while the middle class becomes poor?

A nurse can make more than a family doctor

thats crazy, time to lower the entry rates, why would you need a 2 or 4 year degree to be a nurse.

LPNs and “nursing assistants” don’t make much at all, commensurate with their lower level of training and lower level of tasks.

If you want nurses diagnosing your kids and serving as a front line of defense, you need them to have at least some basic understanding of biology.

Anonymous wrote:NYC nurses striking claiming it is due to workload and staffing levels. Meanwhile, they're already making $165k and want to increase it up to $275k at some NY hospitals. GMAFB. That is grotesque overpay for a 4 year degree job. We are supposed to now compensate nurses more than many family docs? Talk about wage inflation spiral. If nurses make $275k I guess we have to pay teachers $200k and docs $1M now.

USA wages and cost of labor are out of control.

Union officials said that Mount Sinai and the other hospitals were offering only about $4,500 more per nurse, while declining to fund health care benefits to the same extent as before.

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Anonymous wrote:We all know that nurses don't make anywhere close to what doctor's make, don;t be ridiculous. If you are surprised at whata nurse makes in NYC, I am sure you'd faint to see a doctor's salary. I'd rather watch nurses and teachers make more money than the Bill Ackmans of the world. Why do you all want the billionaires to get richer and richer while the middle class becomes poor?

A nurse can make more than a family doctor

thats crazy, time to lower the entry rates, why would you need a 2 or 4 year degree to be a nurse.

https://abc7ny.com/post/thousands-union-nurses-nyc-hospitals-go-strike/18390311/

Nearly 15,000 walk off the job as biggest nurses' strike in NYC history begins

The union says it wants higher pay, an increase in staff to manage patients, fully funded benefits and better workplace protections against violence for its members.

There is no shortage of wealth in the healthcare industry," he said. "The CEO of Montefiore made more than $16 million last year. The CEO of NewYork-Presbyterian made $26 million. But too many nurses can't make ends meet."


https://apnews.com/article/nursing-strike-new-york-7060f4843bf6d6371b9e107d3ec75076


Thousands of New York City nurses returned to the picket lines Tuesday as their strike targeting some of the city’s leading hospital systems entered its second day.

Thousands of New York City nurses returned to the picket lines Tuesday as their strike targeting some of the city’s leading hospital systems entered its second day.

Anonymous wrote:We all know that nurses don't make anywhere close to what doctor's make, don;t be ridiculous. If you are surprised at whata nurse makes in NYC, I am sure you'd faint to see a doctor's salary. I'd rather watch nurses and teachers make more money than the Bill Ackmans of the world. Why do you all want the billionaires to get richer and richer while the middle class becomes poor?

A nurse can make more than a family doctor

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Anonymous wrote:NYC nurses striking claiming it is due to workload and staffing levels. Meanwhile, they're already making $165k and want to increase it up to $275k at some NY hospitals. GMAFB. That is grotesque overpay for a 4 year degree job. We are supposed to now compensate nurses more than many family docs? Talk about wage inflation spiral. If nurses make $275k I guess we have to pay teachers $200k and docs $1M now.

USA wages and cost of labor are out of control.

What are your sources for these salaries and what types of roles?

-RN

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/12/nyregion/nurses-strike-hospitals-nyc.html

AVERAGE is already $165k. Union is making demands that would push it to $275k.

Ridiculous over compensation. Fire all union nursing and replace.

CRNAs there are making $205/hr per diem or 300-350k salary. That’s more than some physicians make. That’s an amazing value for a masters degree

So go get your nursing degree and get it on it!

Only those who are ambitious and more highly educated and trained make those higher salaries. The strikers want higher salaries for lower levels of credentialing, basing their argument on the profitability of their employers, not on the actual market value they bring to their roles. If they want to share in their employer's profits, they need to become stockholders, not extortionists. They also surely would not be demanding their wages be reduced in years when their employers profits decline, demonstrating further that this has nothing to do with the value of their labor, which would be the same at an unprofitable hospital as it is where they happen to be fortunate enought to be employed.

If anyone should be profiting off of sick people, it SHOULD be the nurses who are actually doing the day to day care of those people.

I’m sure you have ZERO problems with insurance executives and hospital administrators making bank off of human suffering.

Omg....stop with the crappy comparison to a CEO.

You know what the brutal reality is? EVERYONE in healthcare is overpaid, period. Docs, nurses, healthcareadministration, and hospital/insurance CEOs. You're all massively overpaid. That's why healthcare is bankruping the entire country and costs are out of control compared to the rest of the world. Too many layers of fat. Too many people making too much money when the rest of the world does the same jobs for a fraction of the price with similar or even better outcomes.

$275k for nurses is way too much. $5M for execs is too much. Both can be true at the same time.

Both could be true at the same time, but most nurses aren’t getting $275,000 and many CEOs are making more than $5 million. Do you want to cut costs, start at the top, then see how much you left over for actual patient care, which is what nursing represents.

You must suck at math. 100 nurses making $275k. $27.5M in labor cost. Make the CEO earning $10M get $0. Nursing costs way more.

Everyone in hc gets paid too much.

They should cover medical procedures with American insurance or Medicare and allow people to travel abroad for procedures at prescreened hospitals for quality. Americans and our Healthcare system could get tons of procedures done for a fraction of the cost. HC jobs in the US that are now grossly overcompensated would have to compete globally in terms of salary. Even after factoring in having to pay for flights, which would be covered by insurance, it would still save massive amounts of money since American healthcare is so vastly overpriced.

But the CEO is a no-value added drain on the system. We NEED nurses. So start there and stop whining about nurses.

Because nurses normally run multimillion dollar healthcare businesses? The roles are different. The skills are different. The market decides the compensation for each. CEOs always make more money than others in any line of business, because their job function is valued more highly. If you don't like it, go be a CEO yourself. If you can. If you can't, that's a envy issue, reflecting your market value relative to that of those paid more highly whether CEOs or others.

Hospitals being multimillion dollar “healthcare businesses” is why costs in the United States are as inflated as they are.