Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To us, T10s are eight ivies and MIT and Stanford.
The stats of kids at our school go to US News T10s like Chicago, Hopkins, Northwestern are always in a tier below the stats of ivy kids.

I have noticed that whenever someone says they attend a “Top 10” it is invariably Chicago or Hopkins. Just like the kid attending an “Ivy” goes to Cornell.

Yes! always this. The people whose kids go to Penn say "Penn." The people whose kids go to Stanford say "Stanford." ppl who say T10 or "Ivy" are always just under the wire -- for this cycle of USNWR. Who knows what next year brings for Chicago, JHU.

“Under the wire”? Penn is the same rank as Northwestern and JHU. No one is hiding these school behind the T10 label. You sound unhinged.

If you have to ask, OP, you’re not T10 material.

Anonymous wrote:There are at least 10 schools that are as good or better than the Ivy League universities. And many more if you are interested in STEM. Off the top of my head -

MIT
Stanford
Duke
Rice
Chicago
Northwestern
Johns Hopkins
Vanderbilt
Cal Tech
Berkeley
Notre Dame

And many more for students interested in engineering - Georgia Tech, Michigan, CMU, Texas and several other flagship schools

Lots of 18 year olds will choose those schools over the various Ivy League schools. Most parents have a pretty outdated view about where the best students go today.

Agree with this.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To us, T10s are eight ivies and MIT and Stanford.
The stats of kids at our school go to US News T10s like Chicago, Hopkins, Northwestern are always in a tier below the stats of ivy kids.

6 Ivies, MIT, Stanford, Duke, Caltech
Sorry Columbia and Cornell…

Coastal bias. Northwestern and Chicago are top 10.

Sorry Dartmouth, Columbia and Cornell.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To us, T10s are eight ivies and MIT and Stanford.
The stats of kids at our school go to US News T10s like Chicago, Hopkins, Northwestern are always in a tier below the stats of ivy kids.

I have noticed that whenever someone says they attend a “Top 10” it is invariably Chicago or Hopkins. Just like the kid attending an “Ivy” goes to Cornell.

Yes! always this. The people whose kids go to Penn say "Penn." The people whose kids go to Stanford say "Stanford." ppl who say T10 or "Ivy" are always just under the wire -- for this cycle of USNWR. Who knows what next year brings for Chicago, JHU.

Anonymous wrote:To us, T10s are eight ivies and MIT and Stanford.
The stats of kids at our school go to US News T10s like Chicago, Hopkins, Northwestern are always in a tier below the stats of ivy kids.

6 Ivies, MIT, Stanford, Duke, Caltech
Sorry Columbia and Cornell…

Anonymous wrote:To us, T10s are eight ivies and MIT and Stanford.
The stats of kids at our school go to US News T10s like Chicago, Hopkins, Northwestern are always in a tier below the stats of ivy kids.

why do you care where other kids apply?

I don’t tend to use T10. But sometimes I use T20 and T50 as a shorrtand.

When I do, I’m referring to two different levels of selectivity/unpredictability when it comes to admissions.

I do this knowing the rankings and lines between these categories are quite blurry in a whole bunch of ways.

For example, it’s clear that the schools are ranked a little differently by different publications, and that a school’s exact ranking on a list (or in people’s minds) also changes depending on which categories of schools are included - only private universities or those plus public universities and/or LAC and/or regional schools.

When I want information about a specific school, I either refer to it by name or group it with a couple of similar schools.

Anonymous wrote:There are at least 10 schools that are as good or better than the Ivy League universities. And many more if you are interested in STEM. Off the top of my head -

MIT
Stanford
Duke
Rice
Chicago
Northwestern
Johns Hopkins
Vanderbilt
Cal Tech
Berkeley
Notre Dame

And many more for students interested in engineering - Georgia Tech, Michigan, CMU, Texas and several other flagship schools

Lots of 18 year olds will choose those schools over the various Ivy League schools. Most parents have a pretty outdated view about where the best students go today.

Definitely Rice!

To me, I just read it as the student is applying to handful of schools that are a reach for everyone.

HYP, MIT, Stanford, and Duke. The rest are interchangeable.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To us, T10s are eight ivies and MIT and Stanford.
The stats of kids at our school go to US News T10s like Chicago, Hopkins, Northwestern are always in a tier below the stats of ivy kids.

There's about 15 schools in the top 10.

The Ivy 8 plus CalTech, Duke, Chicago, MIT, Northwestern, Stanford, Johns Hopkins

Not all ivies carry the same prestige. Brown, Dartmouth and Columbia are below CalTech, Duke, Chicago, MIT, Northwestern, Stanford, and Hopkins.

There are at least 10 schools that are as good or better than the Ivy League universities. And many more if you are interested in STEM. Off the top of my head -

MIT
Stanford
Duke
Rice
Chicago
Northwestern
Johns Hopkins
Vanderbilt
Cal Tech
Berkeley
Notre Dame

And many more for students interested in engineering - Georgia Tech, Michigan, CMU, Texas and several other flagship schools

Lots of 18 year olds will choose those schools over the various Ivy League schools. Most parents have a pretty outdated view about where the best students go today.

"To us." LOL!

I mean, if you really want to split hairs about it, T10s are the top ten schools by whatever metric you're referring to. That is not the same as the ivies and MIT and Stanford. If your kid is applying to all the ivies and MIT and Stanford, just say that.