Why does Dr. Robby seem like a jerk in Season 2? I don't recall this in Season 1. He seems like he is always distracted and trying to get out of conversations. More than with Dr. Al and Dr. Langdon.

Anonymous wrote:This show does slow burns so I'm happy to see where this is going. I'm sure the Langdon/Santos scene is coming as is Whitaker losing his patience with the med students.

I think Louie's getting an "about to die" edit.

While watching last night, I said the same thing. Poor Louie.

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Anonymous wrote:It would have been nice to have the writers not have Santos and McKay have the same personality, one of them is annoying enough, the two of them are two too many.

What is it about McKay that annoys everyone?

I find McKay pretty annoying because in Season 1 she spent the first half of the season explaining things to Javadi and her explanations were often super awkward and TMI. She also had multiple very weird interactions with patients, like when she told the homeless mom about having a drug problem or when she got really aggressive with the patient they suspected might have been sex trafficked. Her heart appears to be in the right place but she's over the top in the way she tries to help others and I find it grating.

She has actually grown on me quite a bit and I wound up liking her interactions with her son and her dad last season, and find her less irritating this year.

I also think at least part of my annoyance with her was her very aggressive bangs in Season 1, which are toned down into more of a side swept situation this year, which I prefer. The idea of an ER doctor with a heavy bang is totally bizarre to me, you are in and out of trauma rooms and dealing with bodily fluids all day long. I'd want it out of my face and totally unfussy and might even wear one of those caps that surgeons wear (though I get not wanting to wear that for a whole shift).

bangs. wow.

It’s funny, I used to think the character Carrie on ER was so annoying as a young woman, and as I’ve rewatched the show in my 40s and 50s, I realize she just was trying to take a leadership role in a hospital that was not supporting her and sometimes it was really her against as a bunch of dudes (anspah, mark greene, Doug, etc) just did whatever and ignored,or undermined her.

Every time I’m annoyed with a woman on TV or in a movie, I asked myself if I would be as annoyed if the character was a man. If the character was a man, they probably just be a normal quirky man dealing with a divorce or whatever. Women should be allowed to be the same way.

McKay is getting less annoying this season I agree. I also didn’t like her bangs, but aren’t we conditioned to judge women’s looks more harshly? She’s an ER doctor not a model. Anyway, I like that the show shows normal looking people, not insanely attractive people like they typically show on medical shows or on TV.

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Anonymous wrote:It would have been nice to have the writers not have Santos and McKay have the same personality, one of them is annoying enough, the two of them are two too many.

What is it about McKay that annoys everyone?

I find McKay pretty annoying because in Season 1 she spent the first half of the season explaining things to Javadi and her explanations were often super awkward and TMI. She also had multiple very weird interactions with patients, like when she told the homeless mom about having a drug problem or when she got really aggressive with the patient they suspected might have been sex trafficked. Her heart appears to be in the right place but she's over the top in the way she tries to help others and I find it grating.

She has actually grown on me quite a bit and I wound up liking her interactions with her son and her dad last season, and find her less irritating this year.

I also think at least part of my annoyance with her was her very aggressive bangs in Season 1, which are toned down into more of a side swept situation this year, which I prefer. The idea of an ER doctor with a heavy bang is totally bizarre to me, you are in and out of trauma rooms and dealing with bodily fluids all day long. I'd want it out of my face and totally unfussy and might even wear one of those caps that surgeons wear (though I get not wanting to wear that for a whole shift).

Anonymous wrote:Just a comment, please:

If referring to "last night's" or "most recent" episode, would you please say Ep 2? Because I didn't even realize Ep 2 has dropped until reading the new posts in this thread...

And if a person comes to this thread in the future while binge watching the first 3-4 eps, it would help them know which ep you're talking about.

Alternatively you could just learn that the show drops on Thursday nights and then tailor your online consumption of info about it based on that info. It is not reasonable to expect others to hold your hand through this.

It reminds me of a friend of mine who got very angry when the Game of Thrones finale aired and she saw a bunch of "spoilers" about it on Twitter because she was living in Europe at the time. Dude, you knew when it was airing and you knew people would talk about it on Twitter. This is on you.

Anonymous wrote:It would have been nice to have the writers not have Santos and McKay have the same personality, one of them is annoying enough, the two of them are two too many.

What is it about McKay that annoys everyone?

It would have been nice to have the writers not have Santos and McKay have the same personality, one of them is annoying enough, the two of them are two too many.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the writing so far is a little less crisp as season one. The foreshadowing is too obvious.

For example, it is completely obvious that Ms. Perfection never-been-sued Dr Al-Hashibi was a going to make some kind of colossal error by relying on genAI instead of her gut.

I don't know if I agree, because they are also setting her up to be unlikeable and portraying her approach as heartless and overly reliant on technology, while showing Robby being right (over her objections) over and over. I see that as them setting Al-Hashibi up for a redemption and Robby up for a fall.

In Season 1 they would make feints like this and then upend your expectations. Like thinking Dr. Sanchez was just an arrogant jerk in the first few episodes and then discovering she's actually kind of awesome. Or showing Langdon bonding with Mel so that you come to really like him, which results in the viewer being hurt and betrayed when it turns out Sanchez is right about his drug abuse.

I trust the show not to do the most obvious, predictable thing, and to make the characters more layered and interesting than that.

Who tf is Dr Sanchez? Do you mean Santos?

It's obviously Santos.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the writing so far is a little less crisp as season one. The foreshadowing is too obvious.

For example, it is completely obvious that Ms. Perfection never-been-sued Dr Al-Hashibi was a going to make some kind of colossal error by relying on genAI instead of her gut.

I don't know if I agree, because they are also setting her up to be unlikeable and portraying her approach as heartless and overly reliant on technology, while showing Robby being right (over her objections) over and over. I see that as them setting Al-Hashibi up for a redemption and Robby up for a fall.

In Season 1 they would make feints like this and then upend your expectations. Like thinking Dr. Sanchez was just an arrogant jerk in the first few episodes and then discovering she's actually kind of awesome. Or showing Langdon bonding with Mel so that you come to really like him, which results in the viewer being hurt and betrayed when it turns out Sanchez is right about his drug abuse.

I trust the show not to do the most obvious, predictable thing, and to make the characters more layered and interesting than that.

Who tf is Dr Sanchez? Do you mean Santos?

This show does slow burns so I'm happy to see where this is going. I'm sure the Langdon/Santos scene is coming as is Whitaker losing his patience with the med students.

I think Louie's getting an "about to die" edit.

Just a comment, please:

If referring to "last night's" or "most recent" episode, would you please say Ep 2? Because I didn't even realize Ep 2 has dropped until reading the new posts in this thread...

And if a person comes to this thread in the future while binge watching the first 3-4 eps, it would help them know which ep you're talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the writing so far is a little less crisp as season one. The foreshadowing is too obvious.

For example, it is completely obvious that Ms. Perfection never-been-sued Dr Al-Hashibi was a going to make some kind of colossal error by relying on genAI instead of her gut.

I don't know if I agree, because they are also setting her up to be unlikeable and portraying her approach as heartless and overly reliant on technology, while showing Robby being right (over her objections) over and over. I see that as them setting Al-Hashibi up for a redemption and Robby up for a fall.

In Season 1 they would make feints like this and then upend your expectations. Like thinking Dr. Sanchez was just an arrogant jerk in the first few episodes and then discovering she's actually kind of awesome. Or showing Langdon bonding with Mel so that you come to really like him, which results in the viewer being hurt and betrayed when it turns out Sanchez is right about his drug abuse.

I trust the show not to do the most obvious, predictable thing, and to make the characters more layered and interesting than that.

pp here. Interesting take. I hadn't thought about that... You might be right.

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Anonymous wrote:Loved season one but season two is very flat so far.

Agree. I can’t tell if the novelty of season one is what made it so good, or the fact that I came to it late and binge watched, so didn’t notice how slow it can be.

I think if you binge watched, you definitely got a false idea of the pacing of the show. You might be forgetting how many of even the more minor plot lines in the first season took several episodes to develop (the adult siblings and their dying father, the couple whose son overdosed and is brain dead, etc.). If you watched those episodes in quick succession, it might feel "slow" to watch this season and have to wait a week between episodes.

But I don't personally think the show is slow. They pack a ton of stuff to chew on into ever episode, both action and character development. For instance, in this episode regarding Langdon, we saw:

- Him tell Mel why he went away, apologize to her, and also show real tenderness to her, plus the call back of him turning off the lights in her room and saying "emergency rooms can be loud" just as she had shown him to do for the neurodivergent patient last season

- The new attending say to him "oh, I've hear ALL about you" and the implications of that, especially with Robby leaving and Langdon now needing to work with this new boss who only knows about him within the context of his biggest failure

- Him presenting a patient to Robby, obviously looking to be included in the treating the patient, only to be yet again dismissed and sent back to triage.

- We also have the continued issue in triage of the deaf woman who cannot hear her name being called and, with Langdon the one doctor assigned to help cover the waiting room, in the best position to either help her or contribute to the problem.

And that's just ONE character. You could do the same with each of the main characters. One of the interesting things about the show to me is the way they use the dramatic action of an ER to create momentum so they can actually spend a ton of time digging in pretty deep with a large number of characters. It's why the characters come to feel so intimately familiar so quickly, and the show gets you to care about them very deeply, even though as you watch it feels like it's just "BLOOD, BONE CRUNCHING SOUND, EW MAGGOTS, HURRY HURRY, BLOOD, BONE STICKING OUT, MEDICAL JARGON, BLOOD!"