Anonymous wrote:My thought was the owner of the practice might be involved but really, who knows?

I agree.. at the very least someone familiar with the house and area. No forced entry it's not an area you'd leave doors unlocked. No reports of dog barking. No reports of any theft from the home. The attack seemed to be primarily focused on the dentist.
The quick call.
Why call the police first versus just running over to the house?
Then when no answer ask for a wellness check?
Only to come back and check because they knew the kids were unsupervised and could be hurt.

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Anonymous wrote:Was it reported whether a weapon was found at the scene? Because her 911 call for dv that year would suggest a context.

No weapon.

Toxicity in the relationship could point to other issues beyond the home, I suppose. Just so glad the perpetrator didn't harm the kids.

Anonymous wrote:Was it reported whether a weapon was found at the scene? Because her 911 call for dv that year would suggest a context.

No weapon.

Was it reported whether a weapon was found at the scene? Because her 911 call for dv that year would suggest a context.

Anonymous wrote:I don't know why this is national news. But I suspect the guy who first called 911. Would YOU call 911 when a colleague didn't show up for work? How bizarre to assume they needed a welfare check.

For the reasons set forth in multiple posts above yours; professionals don’t just no show their clients on a regular basis, the coworkers who know the dentist’s routine and habits had reasons to be alarmed by his absence and most law abiding people believe that in such circumstances the proper course of action is to call police because as a number of posters here have illuminated, most lay people think the police have the power to enter a home when nobody’s answering the door.

Frankly this story and others like it illustrate why we should all have an emergency contact plan for ourselves, especially those of us who live alone or with very young and vulnerable children.

Anybody can fall and hit their head in the shower or suffer a cardiac or cerebrovascular event that leaves us incapable of helping ourselves even so far as to contact 911 via cellphone or Alexa assistance.

We should have a plan in place wherein we leave a house key with a trusted colleague and extend prior permission for them to enter our home should we be a no show, no call, no answer to calls from the workplace.

I don't know why this is national news. But I suspect the guy who first called 911. Would YOU call 911 when a colleague didn't show up for work? How bizarre to assume they needed a welfare check.

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Anonymous wrote:Very sad. The kids were 1 and 4.

Very traumatic for the 4 year old.

Yes. And for the folks that went to check on them - it sounds like the dentist who Spencer worked for called 911 while other co-workers went to the house. They called 911 twice - once to say they heard the kids and then once to say there was a body. Just awful.

The sad thing is that the cop who went for the initial welfare check, rang the doorbell and walked away. He should have heard the children, he should have peeked in the windows. Thank goodness for those co-workers but how traumatizing. The lazy officer should have done his job.

City cops are all lazy and don’t give af. Same thing happened in Detroit a couple years ago. Surgeon murdered, cops do a half-a$$ welfare check and the doctor was in his historic mansion dead. But cops didn’t go back and find his body for 24+ hours. Jeopardizing evidence, scene tampering, etc.

You are full of crap. Police whether city or country are strictly limited in their conduct on a welfare check, by the 4th amendment of the constitution and by oodles of caselaw. They can’t burst into private residences absent exigent circumstances or evidence of crime meeting the probable cause standard.

The case you referred to - the dead doctor was rolled up in a rug in his attic. How exactly were the cops to know that???

Get a life. Or a law degree.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t stand how most news articles about this had a headline that referred to a “dentist and his wife” being killed. Is this the 1950s?

She was a SAHM. Once he was identified by profession, it made for an awkward way of identifying her.

Headline should have just been couple killed.

Certain professions tick boxes for “people whom bad things shouldn’t happen to” where your general reader thinks, see, even if I’m struggling and they had more money than I do, they’re dead and I’m not. Or “maybe I married a construction worker but at least he didn’t murder me”

Rinse and repeat for wealthy actors, musicians, doctors who murder their wives, wealthy wives who murder their husbands (see Betty Broderick), models, beauty queens. People who seem to have their future on a platter, and then don’t.

People have a morbid curiosity when those who seem protected by society have the same bad ends as anyone else, or worse. Sadly it’s one of the reasons the Tatiana Schlossberg story went so viral.

I imagine it was much the same when Henry VIII was going through his wives in his time. “Maybe I’m not Queen, but”

I think it makes people feel vulnerable. I don’t think the enjoy it at all - it’s more of a group of people who live largely without fear realizing they aren’t as safe as they thought. If it turns out to be his secret gay lover THEN people can say “oh whew, I’m still safe since I don’t have a gay lover.”

Does anyone know if the kids saw the dead parents? I really hope not. I'm wondering if they were swingers of some sort, therefore inviting someone in that night.

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Anonymous wrote:It feels like someone knew something was already off given how quickly they were concerned. He didn’t show up for work and by 10:00 they had police there. I feel like the coworkers knew there were some issues going on. Maybe he had told them about weird messages or a stalker or someone who had threatened them or something.

In most places even if you had a very reliable employee, you wouldn’t be at their house with police almost immediately after they didn’t show up for work.

Disagree. He was a dentist with patients to see. His boss was out of town so he knew it was even more important he be there. Reliable medical practitioners don’t ghost their patients without calling or getting in touch. Office could not reach him nor his wife which they said was completely out of character. Good on them. I have literally never no-showed my job (teacher) and I hope my school would respond the same way, especially if they couldn’t reach my emergency contact (husband) either.

+1

My husband is a dentist and I’m pretty sure he has never been late (and without notifying his staff) in his 20yr career. A dentist will usually show up at LEAST 15min prior to the 1st appt of the day. If my husband’s first patient was scheduled at 9:00am and he was a no show & not answering his phone, the staff would be calling me by 9:15 at the very very latest. If they couldn’t reach either of us by 9:30, they’d know that something was very very wrong. Not sure what they would do at that point, but I wouldn’t be surprised if someone came by the house- then called the police if no one answered the door. It is a very reasonable response and not a red flag in any way.

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Anonymous wrote:This was either drugs or an affair.

I’m leaning towards the ex-husband.

Prior to meeting her dentist husband, she worked in early childhood education. Women with her background typically are not divorcing surgeons, especially before having any children. The route of early childhood education to marrying a surgeon is a one-way golden ticket to being a wealthy stay at home mom.

There’s something weird happening with that previous divorce. And I bet the records are all sealed.

Re: early education

There’s a woman in my town whom I hung out with for a little while, she has one of the “mansions on the hill” with her husband. She was a preschool teacher who was fixed up by some parents with their wealthy friend. She always seemed a little abashed about her background and would try to get out of explaining how they met whenever she could. She was VERY pretty.

Same syndrome that resulted in Elin Nordgren the nanny being fixed up with Tiger Woods.

Hospital nutritionists are a close second to preschool teachers. Every one I’ve ever met is young and beautiful and has a huge ring on their finger. And they never stay in the job after they find their doctor.

Heck, Princess Diana herself was an early education teacher.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t stand how most news articles about this had a headline that referred to a “dentist and his wife” being killed. Is this the 1950s?

She was a SAHM. Once he was identified by profession, it made for an awkward way of identifying her.

Headline should have just been couple killed.

Certain professions tick boxes for “people whom bad things shouldn’t happen to” where your general reader thinks, see, even if I’m struggling and they had more money than I do, they’re dead and I’m not. Or “maybe I married a construction worker but at least he didn’t murder me”

Rinse and repeat for wealthy actors, musicians, doctors who murder their wives, wealthy wives who murder their husbands (see Betty Broderick), models, beauty queens. People who seem to have their future on a platter, and then don’t.

People have a morbid curiosity when those who seem protected by society have the same bad ends as anyone else, or worse. Sadly it’s one of the reasons the Tatiana Schlossberg story went so viral.

I imagine it was much the same when Henry VIII was going through his wives in his time. “Maybe I’m not Queen, but”

Anonymous wrote:It feels like someone knew something was already off given how quickly they were concerned. He didn’t show up for work and by 10:00 they had police there. I feel like the coworkers knew there were some issues going on. Maybe he had told them about weird messages or a stalker or someone who had threatened them or something.

In most places even if you had a very reliable employee, you wouldn’t be at their house with police almost immediately after they didn’t show up for work.

Disagree. He was a dentist with patients to see. His boss was out of town so he knew it was even more important he be there. Reliable medical practitioners don’t ghost their patients without calling or getting in touch. Office could not reach him nor his wife which they said was completely out of character. Good on them. I have literally never no-showed my job (teacher) and I hope my school would respond the same way, especially if they couldn’t reach my emergency contact (husband) either.

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Anonymous wrote:Very sad. The kids were 1 and 4.

Very traumatic for the 4 year old.

Yes. And for the folks that went to check on them - it sounds like the dentist who Spencer worked for called 911 while other co-workers went to the house. They called 911 twice - once to say they heard the kids and then once to say there was a body. Just awful.

The sad thing is that the cop who went for the initial welfare check, rang the doorbell and walked away. He should have heard the children, he should have peeked in the windows. Thank goodness for those co-workers but how traumatizing. The lazy officer should have done his job.

City cops are all lazy and don’t give af. Same thing happened in Detroit a couple years ago. Surgeon murdered, cops do a half-a$$ welfare check and the doctor was in his historic mansion dead. But cops didn’t go back and find his body for 24+ hours. Jeopardizing evidence, scene tampering, etc.

My thought was the owner of the practice might be involved but really, who knows?