Anonymous wrote:Why should women suffer in silence? Why are they not allowed to speak up? Why should she have to continue to socialize with this man if she doesn't want to? Why isn't she allowed to have agency? (Of course they will socialize again if she doesn't say anything - there would be no reason not to).
All the posts saying OP, you need to just be quiet, tell no one, carry on. Keep it to yourself and take whatever happens to you.
I completely disagree. Completely. Women do not have to keep things that make them uncomfortable a secret. She doesn't need to cater to this man. She is allowed to have a voice and do as she wishes about the situation. Women are allowed to speak up
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You must be sending him the vibes that made him feel okay to touch your butt
I would keep my distance from that man. I wouldn’t mention this to my friend unless you intend to lose her. She might have an even more ignorant view than the one posted above and try to blame you.
I would mention this to my own DH though to make sure someone has my back.
She should tell the friend. Obviously the aren't going to keep hanging out with handsy husband so friend deserves to know why. Also, I would want to know if my husband was going around grabbing my friends' butts. I would want Op to tell me.
Op I’m circling back to warn you strongly not to say anything about this to your friend. She will be embarrassed and blame you or she will outright blame you and she will distance herself from you to keep her husband. That won’t end well it never does. Remember women are always wrong and men are blameless or forgiven.
+++ Even if this is a good friend, her family will come first and she may go on a subtle campaign against you. Don't tell her, and don't tell your husband and don't tell any other girlfriends. Avoid him, make distance, never be alone with him and avoid drinking events with the couple.
Huh, it just occurred to me this could be the answer to so many "why did my friend fade out on me" posts. But wondering why you think she shouldn't tell her DH.
Anonymous wrote:Op here, he brushed past me and I felt his hand graze over the top of my butt, from left to right. I would have thought it was a mistake or a very light touch to just say “excuse me, right behind you”, but there was no excuse or apology. I always say excuse me if I’m passing someone or I accidentally graze them.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He was counting on your shock being your silence. Some men get off on making women uncomfortable, and groping one of his wife’s friends definitely qualifies.
I’m sorry op. I wouldn’t want to hang out with him anymore, and it’s unfortunately likely only the tip of the iceberg.
+1
So sorry, what a bad situation. Especially frustrating because as another poster noted, in theory there is still *some* very very small chance that it was an accident, but this seems less likely, and you're now in the awful position of being left to question the encounter and hold onto this uncomfortable information on your own. Whatever happened was absolutely not your fault.
It may be worth gently sussing out among other friends in the shared friend group if this has happened to them, too, or if they have noted any inappropriate behavior from him. Men who do this tend to feel entitled to women's bodies - when I was in a similar situation and silently stressing over a situation where I had been groped, I learned later that several other women had had similar encounters with the person in question.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You must be sending him the vibes that made him feel okay to touch your butt
I would keep my distance from that man. I wouldn’t mention this to my friend unless you intend to lose her. She might have an even more ignorant view than the one posted above and try to blame you.
I would mention this to my own DH though to make sure someone has my back.
She should tell the friend. Obviously the aren't going to keep hanging out with handsy husband so friend deserves to know why. Also, I would want to know if my husband was going around grabbing my friends' butts. I would want Op to tell me.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He was counting on your shock being your silence. Some men get off on making women uncomfortable, and groping one of his wife’s friends definitely qualifies.
I’m sorry op. I wouldn’t want to hang out with him anymore, and it’s unfortunately likely only the tip of the iceberg.
Groping??? Brushing by a woman in a tight dress is hardly groping!
Anonymous wrote:That’s SA to me.
I’d tell the friend and report him.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:***Always assume it's an accident unless it happens more than once with the same person.***
I've brushed by people without meaning too, and without excusing myself, because sometimes an excuse just seems even more awkward, or they're talking to someone and I don't want to interrupt and have a group know about my silly brush. I've had many people brush past me and inadvertently touch my behind, etc.
I was assaulted on the metro as a preteen and I can assure you it felt very different.
OP here, I’m so sorry to hear about your assault, that’s awful. I am taking your first point of advice and am going to brush it off for now.
Brush it off? That man should be stopped and locked up. This was sexual assault. By being silent, you are not protecting other victims.
Anonymous wrote:Last night at a party, my friends husband was passing by me and I felt his hand turn to the side and graze over my butt as he passed by me. He didn’t say “sorry!” Or excuse me, it was similar to a butt grab that my husband does in the kitchen or something when he wants to touch me discreetly, kind of a discreet little grab rather than an accidental passing by.
Am I reading too much into it? I was a bit shocked and didn’t say anything.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:***Always assume it's an accident unless it happens more than once with the same person.***
I've brushed by people without meaning too, and without excusing myself, because sometimes an excuse just seems even more awkward, or they're talking to someone and I don't want to interrupt and have a group know about my silly brush. I've had many people brush past me and inadvertently touch my behind, etc.
I was assaulted on the metro as a preteen and I can assure you it felt very different.
OP here, I’m so sorry to hear about your assault, that’s awful. I am taking your first point of advice and am going to brush it off for now.