Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the skepticism about the judicial internship. I imagine it’s the judge allowing kids to sit in his courtroom, see what goes on, and then maybe discuss with the judge and/or his clerks at the end of the day for 10 or 15 minutes.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the skepticism about the judicial internship. I imagine it’s the judge allowing kids to sit in his courtroom, see what goes on, and then maybe discuss with the judge and/or his clerks at the end of the day for 10 or 15 minutes.

That’s not an internship honey, it’s called shadowing.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the skepticism about the judicial internship. I imagine it’s the judge allowing kids to sit in his courtroom, see what goes on, and then maybe discuss with the judge and/or his clerks at the end of the day for 10 or 15 minutes.

That’s not an internship honey, it’s called shadowing.

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Anonymous wrote:There are established, and highly respected, high school internship in federal judicial system. Sonia & Celina Sotomayor Judicial Internship Program for example has a high school division. For high school students interested in our judicial system, there are plenty of outreach programs at the state court level. Do a search and particularly look into your local judicial system. You can also reach out to judges directly to see if they are willing to have a high schooler as an intern.

Federal judge internship is definitely something unique and unusual (and yes prestigeous!). I don't understand why folks are against it. Ignorant?

No one is “against it”. They are lawyers or former clerks, like myself, who think the story suspect as in a nepotism job. I’ve clerked for two years and have never seen minors in the courthouse. Too many potential problems. And the question was properly raised - even if he did do it, what did he do? We would never have let an intern touch the files- immense confidentiality and liability issues. An AO will
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the skepticism about the judicial internship. I imagine it’s the judge allowing kids to sit in his courtroom, see what goes on, and then maybe discuss with the judge and/or his clerks at the end of the day for 10 or 15 minutes.

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Anonymous wrote:Boy, varsity athlete playing year-round (but doesn't want to play in college), public school 3.9 UW/4.3 W (not VA or MD), 1520 SAT, 11 APs total by graduation, humanities kid, founded & president of school debating club, Model UN, several seasons of coaching kids teams in youth sports, has worked in construction over the summer (when not doing sport), doing internship with federal judge, volunteers w/Special Olympics. History or Econ as potential major.

Not a whole lot of time to do much else, but is there any EC that's obviously missing? He is hoping for a top 20, SLAC or mid-sized. Double egacy at Ivies but obviously a long shot.

This is so obviously fake, a made up extracurricular project for mom.

Best thing you can do is to actually help your son find something he cares about and get out of the way.

Founder and president of the debate club and model UN is mostly meaningless on its own, you have to have some activity or related project he worked on as part of the club besides meeting during lunch time. Kids lie about these clubs all the time because it’s not verifiable information.

In what capacity did he coach kids? Is he throwing the ball with the neighbors kids, or it’s a real coaching job? Unlikely sophomore kids get to be coaches, sports camp counselor go through extensive training. High schoolers don’t get to work with minors as “coaches” just like that. Sounds more like he plays a sport and you’re making up other activities to pad up his college applications.

As others have pointed out, doing an internship with a federal judge is so suspect of being made up because there’s not a lot that a high schooler can do in that setting. If it’s real, I’d be interested to know what he actually did.

I call BS on the construction summer job too. Minors can’t work in most construction jobs, because it’s considered hazardous occupation, unless they are part of an apprenticeship program.

I’d advise against making stuff up, because it’s really easy to spot the fake activities, since they lack depth and authenticity and are hard to connect with essays, recommendation letters, awards and the rest of the application.

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Anonymous wrote:Boy, varsity athlete playing year-round (but doesn't want to play in college), public school 3.9 UW/4.3 W (not VA or MD), 1520 SAT, 11 APs total by graduation, humanities kid, founded & president of school debating club, Model UN, several seasons of coaching kids teams in youth sports, has worked in construction over the summer (when not doing sport), doing internship with federal judge, volunteers w/Special Olympics. History or Econ as potential major.

Not a whole lot of time to do much else, but is there any EC that's obviously missing? He is hoping for a top 20, SLAC or mid-sized. Double egacy at Ivies but obviously a long shot.

This is so obviously fake, a made up extracurricular project for mom.

Best thing you can do is to actually help your son find something he cares about and get out of the way.

Founder and president of the debate club and model UN is mostly meaningless on its own, you have to have some activity or related project he worked on as part of the club besides meeting during lunch time. Kids lie about these clubs all the time because it’s not verifiable information.

In what capacity did he coach kids? Is he throwing the ball with the neighbors kids, or it’s a real coaching job? Unlikely sophomore kids get to be coaches, sports camp counselor go through extensive training. High schoolers don’t get to work with minors as “coaches” just like that. Sounds more like he plays a sport and you’re making up other activities to pad up his college applications.

As others have pointed out, doing an internship with a federal judge is so suspect of being made up because there’s not a lot that a high schooler can do in that setting. If it’s real, I’d be interested to know what he actually did.

I call BS on the construction summer job too. Minors can’t work in most construction jobs, because it’s considered hazardous occupation, unless they are part of an apprenticeship program.

I’d advise against making stuff up, because it’s really easy to spot the fake activities, since they lack depth and authenticity and are hard to connect with essays, recommendation letters, awards and the rest of the application.

He just needs to ding something he likes and spend some time exploring his interests. Sounds like mom is in the way.

Anonymous wrote:Boy, varsity athlete playing year-round (but doesn't want to play in college), public school 3.9 UW/4.3 W (not VA or MD), 1520 SAT, 11 APs total by graduation, humanities kid, founded & president of school debating club, Model UN, several seasons of coaching kids teams in youth sports, has worked in construction over the summer (when not doing sport), doing internship with federal judge, volunteers w/Special Olympics. History or Econ as potential major.

Not a whole lot of time to do much else, but is there any EC that's obviously missing? He is hoping for a top 20, SLAC or mid-sized. Double egacy at Ivies but obviously a long shot.