Anonymous wrote:I leave food out for up to 24 hours at a time.

I do cover it on countertop with a cloth or if on the cooling stove, a lid.

If things like deli meat smell weird, I give them to my dogs, they have a different digestive system. (Keep in mind that dogs can drag dead things from under bushes and play with them with their mouths and not get sick)

I think there was some Kennedy divorce case where someone was complaining about the other parent leaving tuna fish sandwiches out in the sun (it may well have been RFK Jr involved) and I was like lol

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Anonymous wrote:My in-laws are like this too. I eat food right when it comes out of the oven or fridge. I stick to chips or crackers or cookies after a few hours have passed and the mayo based salads, dips, meat, etc. have been sitting out. And I definitely don't eat it the next day when they haul it out again. They don't seem to get sick from it. I have a more sensitive stomach (ibs with family history of ibd) so I am more careful. So for example today they had grape leaves and pita and hummus that was all out for about 6 hours yesterday. I had the pita that had been in the fridge yesterday plus an apple and some peanut butter i brought with me.

You haven't built up any immunities.

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Anonymous wrote:People, we have immune systems that have been protecting us since the dawn of time. You know, humans were not sick all the time before the invention of Purell.

Cool, then unplug your fridge and let your fab immune system do its thing.

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Anonymous wrote:People, we have immune systems that have been protecting us since the dawn of time. You know, humans were not sick all the time before the invention of Purell.

Cool, then unplug your fridge and let your fab immune system do its thing.

Anonymous wrote:People, we have immune systems that have been protecting us since the dawn of time. You know, humans were not sick all the time before the invention of Purell.

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Anonymous wrote:My MIL mixes meatballs, meatloaf, and bread dough with her hands and wears several rings while doing it. It grosses me out. I guess the bacteria gets cooked off. I’ve never been sick. Also keeps cooked stews and pots of rice on the stove (burner off) all day long. Also gross to me. She isn’t American though. I think a lot of her habits that I consider unhygienic are cultural

The Germans tend to think store and restaurant bought foods are subpar.
I'll bet your MIL washes her hands often while cooking, and probably washes dishes by hand so her hands and rings are probably clean.
Cooked stews and rice on stove with the lid on is OK. Foods should cool before putting in fridge as it is bad for the appliance.

Before refrigerators and factory food, people made stuff with their hands. And vacuum sealed pickling jars and pots using a ring of water with a lid over it to prevent air passage. Also stored their foods underground where it was cooler in summer.
Somehow humanity managed to get on without appliances for most of human history.

People also used to die younger and had more diseases in general.

I mean, there is probably a happy medium, but let's not pretend that health hasn't improved over time through things like food hygiene.

Well, yeah, people died younger and had diseases.
But not from eating food.
Health has improved from hygiene in general.
Not specifically from food hygiene.

Most shelf stable foods in our giant supermarkets are products of military food science. They produced a "bread like product", as described in their internal literature. 20 minutes from raw dough to bagging. It became marketed as Wonderbread.
I'd rather have freshly baked bread by human hands and I don't mind it sitting out for a day.

No. People were often sick from poor food hygiene in the past, which led to stricter food regulation. Have you heard of The Jungle?! Typhoid Mary?!

I also prefer everything homemade. We can do both now— make our own food and employ our knowledge of food safety and hygiene, which is fairly recent.