Anonymous
12/26/2025 15:23
Subject: Is Springfield really “the bootyhole” of NoVa?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Springfield encompasses 4 zip codes (22150, 22151, 22152, and 22153). It is over 28 square miles. I think the OP is mainly thinking about 22150, which is central Springfield. Central Springfield can look daunting and sprawling and old near the 495/395 interchange. It is full of post WWII housing. We should count our blessings that this area exists. We need all kinds of areas and people to make the DMV function. That housing still functions for people. People like to dismiss Lewis and Edison high schools, but quite honestly many people have gone on to pretty good lives after getting their starts there. Sometimes adversity will make you tough and give you the drive to succeed. I would not dismiss people just because they live or lived there. Ask me how I know.
Honestly?
The board of supervisors need to find a way to update the zoning laws to eliminate that Paper Moon Strip Club and the other adult video store from central Springfield.
Neither of those places should be allowed to exist within walking distance of homes, apartment complexes, Lewis high school and multiple elementary schools. Or if they won't fix the zoning issue that allows a strip club adjacent to schools and homes, they need to severely regulate and curtail the operating hours so it closes during normal daytime business hours.
The closest elementary school is three miles from Papermoon. Lewis is about five miles. That's hardly adjacent. How far does it need to be?
NP. What are you talking about? Lynbrook, Crestwood, and Garfield are all less than a mile from Papermoon.
And by the way Lewis is a 1.2 mile walk from Papermoon.
That's a pretty generous use of the word adjacent.
Paper Moon is within the walk zone of Lewis and most of those elementary schools.
They are in more danger from the traffic.
Anonymous
12/26/2025 15:18
Subject: Is Springfield really “the bootyhole” of NoVa?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish I moved there instead of my snooty neighborhood. It's diverse, has much cheaper housing, is relatively convenient, and has good public schools. There are some interesting shops and restaurants, particularly ethnic ones. Is it a suburban hellscape? Yes. But so is lots of NoVa.
Good public schools?!
Is West Springfield bad in your mind?
Yes. I would never send my kids to a Springfield anything school.
Goid.
WSHS is one of the most in demand schools in FCPS, second only to Chantilly.
I have no idea why people keep trashing the schools when West Springfield High School is one of the best in Northern Virginia.
Because West Springfield is not Springfield
It is West Springfield. Parks, a golf course, and single family homes on larger lots (for the area)
West Springfield is a part of Springfield…
No, it is not.
They are 2 separate zip codes and 2 separate towns.
Anonymous
12/26/2025 15:17
Subject: Is Springfield really “the bootyhole” of NoVa?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish I moved there instead of my snooty neighborhood. It's diverse, has much cheaper housing, is relatively convenient, and has good public schools. There are some interesting shops and restaurants, particularly ethnic ones. Is it a suburban hellscape? Yes. But so is lots of NoVa.
Good public schools?!
Is West Springfield bad in your mind?
Yes. I would never send my kids to a Springfield anything school.
Goid.
WSHS is one of the most in demand schools in FCPS, second only to Chantilly.
I have no idea why people keep trashing the schools when West Springfield High School is one of the best in Northern Virginia.
Neither of these schools is one of the top two high schools in FCPS.
But they are the two most in demand of the top 10 high schools.
Anonymous
12/26/2025 15:16
Subject: Is Springfield really “the bootyhole” of NoVa?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish I moved there instead of my snooty neighborhood. It's diverse, has much cheaper housing, is relatively convenient, and has good public schools. There are some interesting shops and restaurants, particularly ethnic ones. Is it a suburban hellscape? Yes. But so is lots of NoVa.
Good public schools?!
Is West Springfield bad in your mind?
Yes. I would never send my kids to a Springfield anything school.
Goid.
WSHS is one of the most in demand schools in FCPS, second only to Chantilly.
I have no idea why people keep trashing the schools when West Springfield High School is one of the best in Northern Virginia.
Neither of these schools is one of the top two high schools in FCPS.
Anonymous
12/26/2025 15:13
Subject: Is Springfield really “the bootyhole” of NoVa?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish I moved there instead of my snooty neighborhood. It's diverse, has much cheaper housing, is relatively convenient, and has good public schools. There are some interesting shops and restaurants, particularly ethnic ones. Is it a suburban hellscape? Yes. But so is lots of NoVa.
Good public schools?!
Is West Springfield bad in your mind?
Yes. I would never send my kids to a Springfield anything school.
Goid.
WSHS is one of the most in demand schools in FCPS, second only to Chantilly.
I have no idea why people keep trashing the schools when West Springfield High School is one of the best in Northern Virginia.
Because West Springfield is not Springfield
It is West Springfield. Parks, a golf course, and single family homes on larger lots (for the area)
That’s like saying North Arlington isn’t Arlington.
Anonymous
12/26/2025 15:11
Subject: Is Springfield really “the bootyhole” of NoVa?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish I moved there instead of my snooty neighborhood. It's diverse, has much cheaper housing, is relatively convenient, and has good public schools. There are some interesting shops and restaurants, particularly ethnic ones. Is it a suburban hellscape? Yes. But so is lots of NoVa.
Good public schools?!
Is West Springfield bad in your mind?
Yes. I would never send my kids to a Springfield anything school.
Goid.
WSHS is one of the most in demand schools in FCPS, second only to Chantilly.
I have no idea why people keep trashing the schools when West Springfield High School is one of the best in Northern Virginia.
Because West Springfield is not Springfield
It is West Springfield. Parks, a golf course, and single family homes on larger lots (for the area)
West Springfield is a part of Springfield…
Anonymous
12/26/2025 15:10
Subject: Is Springfield really “the bootyhole” of NoVa?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish I moved there instead of my snooty neighborhood. It's diverse, has much cheaper housing, is relatively convenient, and has good public schools. There are some interesting shops and restaurants, particularly ethnic ones. Is it a suburban hellscape? Yes. But so is lots of NoVa.
Good public schools?!
Is West Springfield bad in your mind?
Yes. I would never send my kids to a Springfield anything school.
Goid.
WSHS is one of the most in demand schools in FCPS, second only to Chantilly.
I have no idea why people keep trashing the schools when West Springfield High School is one of the best in Northern Virginia.
Because West Springfield is not Springfield
It is West Springfield. Parks, a golf course, and single family homes on larger lots (for the area)
Anonymous
12/26/2025 15:09
Subject: Is Springfield really “the bootyhole” of NoVa?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Springfield encompasses 4 zip codes (22150, 22151, 22152, and 22153). It is over 28 square miles. I think the OP is mainly thinking about 22150, which is central Springfield. Central Springfield can look daunting and sprawling and old near the 495/395 interchange. It is full of post WWII housing. We should count our blessings that this area exists. We need all kinds of areas and people to make the DMV function. That housing still functions for people. People like to dismiss Lewis and Edison high schools, but quite honestly many people have gone on to pretty good lives after getting their starts there. Sometimes adversity will make you tough and give you the drive to succeed. I would not dismiss people just because they live or lived there. Ask me how I know.
Edison HS isn't even in this zip code. It's not Springfield.
Edison is Alexandria.
Anonymous
12/26/2025 15:08
Subject: Is Springfield really “the bootyhole” of NoVa?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Springfield encompasses 4 zip codes (22150, 22151, 22152, and 22153). It is over 28 square miles. I think the OP is mainly thinking about 22150, which is central Springfield. Central Springfield can look daunting and sprawling and old near the 495/395 interchange. It is full of post WWII housing. We should count our blessings that this area exists. We need all kinds of areas and people to make the DMV function. That housing still functions for people. People like to dismiss Lewis and Edison high schools, but quite honestly many people have gone on to pretty good lives after getting their starts there. Sometimes adversity will make you tough and give you the drive to succeed. I would not dismiss people just because they live or lived there. Ask me how I know.
Honestly?
The board of supervisors need to find a way to update the zoning laws to eliminate that Paper Moon Strip Club and the other adult video store from central Springfield.
Neither of those places should be allowed to exist within walking distance of homes, apartment complexes, Lewis high school and multiple elementary schools. Or if they won't fix the zoning issue that allows a strip club adjacent to schools and homes, they need to severely regulate and curtail the operating hours so it closes during normal daytime business hours.
The closest elementary school is three miles from Papermoon. Lewis is about five miles. That's hardly adjacent. How far does it need to be?
Not in a neighborhood shopping area next to Talbots and across from baskin robbins, a few minutes walk from several residential neighborhoods full of children and close to nearby schools.
Move it to some urban industrial park full of car repair shops or next to a truck port in some isolated rural area 10-20 miles from schools and homes.
Get that trashy strip club and adult video store out of central Springfield, so the residents can have a nicer community, not a seedy trashy strip joint that is packed at 10AM and 2PM.
Put in some nice apartment housing and retail space.
Isn't the Whole Foods right there, too?
Yes.
They are trying to develop that area to make it more functional and to improve the general area.
But as long as the main central landmark of Central Springfield is literally a giant all hours strip club and a separate XXX adult video store within walking distance to several area schools, then there is no amount of development that will make that area liveable.
Anonymous
12/26/2025 15:05
Subject: Is Springfield really “the bootyhole” of NoVa?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Springfield encompasses 4 zip codes (22150, 22151, 22152, and 22153). It is over 28 square miles. I think the OP is mainly thinking about 22150, which is central Springfield. Central Springfield can look daunting and sprawling and old near the 495/395 interchange. It is full of post WWII housing. We should count our blessings that this area exists. We need all kinds of areas and people to make the DMV function. That housing still functions for people. People like to dismiss Lewis and Edison high schools, but quite honestly many people have gone on to pretty good lives after getting their starts there. Sometimes adversity will make you tough and give you the drive to succeed. I would not dismiss people just because they live or lived there. Ask me how I know.
Honestly?
The board of supervisors need to find a way to update the zoning laws to eliminate that Paper Moon Strip Club and the other adult video store from central Springfield.
Neither of those places should be allowed to exist within walking distance of homes, apartment complexes, Lewis high school and multiple elementary schools. Or if they won't fix the zoning issue that allows a strip club adjacent to schools and homes, they need to severely regulate and curtail the operating hours so it closes during normal daytime business hours.
The closest elementary school is three miles from Papermoon. Lewis is about five miles. That's hardly adjacent. How far does it need to be?
NP. What are you talking about? Lynbrook, Crestwood, and Garfield are all less than a mile from Papermoon.
And by the way Lewis is a 1.2 mile walk from Papermoon.
That's a pretty generous use of the word adjacent.
Paper Moon is within the walk zone of Lewis and most of those elementary schools.
Anonymous
12/26/2025 15:04
Subject: Is Springfield really “the bootyhole” of NoVa?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Springfield encompasses 4 zip codes (22150, 22151, 22152, and 22153). It is over 28 square miles. I think the OP is mainly thinking about 22150, which is central Springfield. Central Springfield can look daunting and sprawling and old near the 495/395 interchange. It is full of post WWII housing. We should count our blessings that this area exists. We need all kinds of areas and people to make the DMV function. That housing still functions for people. People like to dismiss Lewis and Edison high schools, but quite honestly many people have gone on to pretty good lives after getting their starts there. Sometimes adversity will make you tough and give you the drive to succeed. I would not dismiss people just because they live or lived there. Ask me how I know.
Honestly?
The board of supervisors need to find a way to update the zoning laws to eliminate that Paper Moon Strip Club and the other adult video store from central Springfield.
Neither of those places should be allowed to exist within walking distance of homes, apartment complexes, Lewis high school and multiple elementary schools. Or if they won't fix the zoning issue that allows a strip club adjacent to schools and homes, they need to severely regulate and curtail the operating hours so it closes during normal daytime business hours.
The closest elementary school is three miles from Papermoon. Lewis is about five miles. That's hardly adjacent. How far does it need to be?
NP. What are you talking about? Lynbrook, Crestwood, and Garfield are all less than a mile from Papermoon.
Yes.
It is a travesty that the board of supervisors allows a strip joint and huge adult video store so close to all those schools and family housing.
Do they not have respect for the poor immigrant families trying to raise their kids in a safe affordable area?
None of the board members would allow a strip joint to exist a few miles from their kids elementary school and high school.
Anonymous
12/26/2025 15:04
Subject: Is Springfield really “the bootyhole” of NoVa?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish I moved there instead of my snooty neighborhood. It's diverse, has much cheaper housing, is relatively convenient, and has good public schools. There are some interesting shops and restaurants, particularly ethnic ones. Is it a suburban hellscape? Yes. But so is lots of NoVa.
Good public schools?!
Is West Springfield bad in your mind?
Yes. I would never send my kids to a Springfield anything school.
Goid.
WSHS is one of the most in demand schools in FCPS, second only to Chantilly.
I have no idea why people keep trashing the schools when West Springfield High School is one of the best in Northern Virginia.
Anonymous
12/26/2025 15:02
Subject: Is Springfield really “the bootyhole” of NoVa?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish I moved there instead of my snooty neighborhood. It's diverse, has much cheaper housing, is relatively convenient, and has good public schools. There are some interesting shops and restaurants, particularly ethnic ones. Is it a suburban hellscape? Yes. But so is lots of NoVa.
Good public schools?!
Is West Springfield bad in your mind?
Yes. I would never send my kids to a Springfield anything school.
Goid.
WSHS is one of the most in demand schools in FCPS, second only to Chantilly.
Anonymous
12/26/2025 12:59
Subject: Is Springfield really “the bootyhole” of NoVa?
One thing I said to my real estate agent when I started looking for a house... nothing Springfield, Annandale, or Alexandria in Fairfax County. I was 50/50 on Annandale outside the beltway as it has some of my favorite suburban neighborhoods but had to make the cut somewhere.
Anonymous
12/26/2025 11:41
Subject: Re:Is Springfield really “the bootyhole” of NoVa?
People turn their noses up at so many of the suburban areas yet act as if Falls Church and South Arlington are equivalent to Manhattan. People around here just like to hate on anywhere they perceive as not somewhere they want to live.