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Anonymous wrote:This thread is wildly paranoid.

We are in lottery for first time this year. Know it’s a very long shot, fingers crossed though. I wish there were more choices for middle school and more programs like HB available.

Best of luck to all

I was simply responding to a PP who said its easy to know your lottery number. Then they vanished. No one can answer, so its clearly a pretend lottery.

Anonymous wrote:This thread is wildly paranoid.

We are in lottery for first time this year. Know it’s a very long shot, fingers crossed though. I wish there were more choices for middle school and more programs like HB available.

Best of luck to all

Anonymous wrote:Let's move on from the troll. Good luck to everyone applying!

Anonymous wrote:This crap again? Your obsession with HB is really disturbing

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Anonymous wrote:You do know your number. Atop
Pushing lies. Just because your kid didn’t get in doesn’t mean it’s rigged. Very maga!

Stop making things political. How do I find my number, and so it shows up on the ball on the video live when I watch the lottery?

Why do you want this? What difference would it make?

You are claiming that we do know out number. i signed up for lottery. So if I watch it st Syphax, will I see it maybe come up?

What difference would it make to you if they tell you your number before or after the draw?

Are you gaslighting me or just being naïve? If you only find out your number after the draw, it's possible for winning numbers to be assigned to friends, family, or other favored individuals.

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Anonymous wrote:It always amuses me the contortions some families go through. Especially the ones who insisted their kids needed a traditional education and maneuvered to get them into ATS but come time for secondary school suddenly they need a hippy-dippy experiential approach and the HBW philosophy is for them. I've long thought attendance at ATS should be disqualifying to HBW, especially given the scarcity of spots (why should one family win the lottery twice?)

Since the 1980s parents of all political or social backgrounds have liked the small, generally socio-economically homogeneous or majority affluent aspect of H-B. That's why test scores have always been high. Before the lottery, families would camp outside of the school for days on end to not loose their spot in the queue (to gain admittance). I personally like HB but wish more of the students who could truly benefit from its unique pedagogy could gain admittance. But I don't think that means making H-B huge to get more students in. Right now APS is at a good balance with strong neighborhood secondary schools and strong option programs.

How do you even see or assess this? I’ve been trying to look at test data, but HB (as well as the other secondary option programs) are always lumped in with the big high schools, including on VDOE, and rarely is it possible to see any stand alone performance data - please link if you know of any. It seems a bit of a cop out by APS that they are not publishing any data for these programs separately. .

Obviously this is intentional to hide the inequality.

HB is a program. And same with Arlington Tech. They are not “schools” per the state definition. They are “programs”, and the students can choose to get their home high school diploma upon graduation. It’s not intentional, but it does hide the socio-economic implications of an option program that primarily appeals to affluent families.

That is a fake designation to give the ability to control the narrative.

They are in different buildings, different teachers, different PRINCIPALS. There is no more overlap between HBW with WL than WL with WHS.

You are wrong about this. As usual.

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Anonymous wrote:It always amuses me the contortions some families go through. Especially the ones who insisted their kids needed a traditional education and maneuvered to get them into ATS but come time for secondary school suddenly they need a hippy-dippy experiential approach and the HBW philosophy is for them. I've long thought attendance at ATS should be disqualifying to HBW, especially given the scarcity of spots (why should one family win the lottery twice?)

Since the 1980s parents of all political or social backgrounds have liked the small, generally socio-economically homogeneous or majority affluent aspect of H-B. That's why test scores have always been high. Before the lottery, families would camp outside of the school for days on end to not loose their spot in the queue (to gain admittance). I personally like HB but wish more of the students who could truly benefit from its unique pedagogy could gain admittance. But I don't think that means making H-B huge to get more students in. Right now APS is at a good balance with strong neighborhood secondary schools and strong option programs.

How do you even see or assess this? I’ve been trying to look at test data, but HB (as well as the other secondary option programs) are always lumped in with the big high schools, including on VDOE, and rarely is it possible to see any stand alone performance data - please link if you know of any. It seems a bit of a cop out by APS that they are not publishing any data for these programs separately. .

Obviously this is intentional to hide the inequality.

HB is a program. And same with Arlington Tech. They are not “schools” per the state definition. They are “programs”, and the students can choose to get their home high school diploma upon graduation. It’s not intentional, but it does hide the socio-economic implications of an option program that primarily appeals to affluent families.

That is a fake designation to give the ability to control the narrative.

They are in different buildings, different teachers, different PRINCIPALS. There is no more overlap between HBW with WL than WL with WHS.

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Anonymous wrote:It always amuses me the contortions some families go through. Especially the ones who insisted their kids needed a traditional education and maneuvered to get them into ATS but come time for secondary school suddenly they need a hippy-dippy experiential approach and the HBW philosophy is for them. I've long thought attendance at ATS should be disqualifying to HBW, especially given the scarcity of spots (why should one family win the lottery twice?)

Since the 1980s parents of all political or social backgrounds have liked the small, generally socio-economically homogeneous or majority affluent aspect of H-B. That's why test scores have always been high. Before the lottery, families would camp outside of the school for days on end to not loose their spot in the queue (to gain admittance). I personally like HB but wish more of the students who could truly benefit from its unique pedagogy could gain admittance. But I don't think that means making H-B huge to get more students in. Right now APS is at a good balance with strong neighborhood secondary schools and strong option programs.

How do you even see or assess this? I’ve been trying to look at test data, but HB (as well as the other secondary option programs) are always lumped in with the big high schools, including on VDOE, and rarely is it possible to see any stand alone performance data - please link if you know of any. It seems a bit of a cop out by APS that they are not publishing any data for these programs separately. .

Obviously this is intentional to hide the inequality.

HB is a program. And same with Arlington Tech. They are not “schools” per the state definition. They are “programs”, and the students can choose to get their home high school diploma upon graduation. It’s not intentional, but it does hide the socio-economic implications of an option program that primarily appeals to affluent families.

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Enlarging HB to the size of the other high schools has been discussed many times over the years and it will never happen. It would simply continue to be a socio-economically segregated escape from the neighborhood schools, but much larger and thus undermining those comprehensive high schools. APS has a good balance at the moment among the neighborhood schools and options programs.

Clearly you live in N Arlington or haven't spent anytime looking at the racial and economic segregation in APS.

There is segregation and there has been for quite some time. Boundary changes have historically exacerbated the segregation, which has also been the case in FCPS and MCPS. Enlarging HB would only exacerbate existing segregation.

And the county will never seriously address it by assigning students across the county at the high school.

Not in a million years. APS also removed diversity criteria from future boundary changes. Neighborhood schools, walkability, etc., are the priorities going forward, when or if APS changes boundaries again.

As it should be. No one is stopping parents from the wealthier white neighborhoods from choose to transfer to more diverse schools. You aren't guaranteed a spot but it's likely. Instead, these parents want to force brown/black kids to be assigned to schools farther away from home, which means more time out of their day for transit and making it more difficult for lower-income parents to be active in their schools. These communities WANT to be in their neighborhood schools! They don't want to be pawns so that affluent white parents can offer their children a more "diverse" school experience.

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Enlarging HB to the size of the other high schools has been discussed many times over the years and it will never happen. It would simply continue to be a socio-economically segregated escape from the neighborhood schools, but much larger and thus undermining those comprehensive high schools. APS has a good balance at the moment among the neighborhood schools and options programs.

Clearly you live in N Arlington or haven't spent anytime looking at the racial and economic segregation in APS.

There is segregation and there has been for quite some time. Boundary changes have historically exacerbated the segregation, which has also been the case in FCPS and MCPS. Enlarging HB would only exacerbate existing segregation.

And the county will never seriously address it by assigning students across the county at the high school.

Not in a million years. APS also removed diversity criteria from future boundary changes. Neighborhood schools, walkability, etc., are the priorities going forward, when or if APS changes boundaries again.