Anonymous
Post 12/14/2025 18:25     Subject: universal screening

Just anxiety - please confirm that if your kid is in pool you have till early January for the samples and parent forms, right? Is there any difference when to submit those?
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2025 14:17     Subject: Re:universal screening

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
DC got 99 percentile on MAP. Also doing subject-specific AAP since 1st grade.
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I am curious what the MAP scores are for those who are in pool.


It's easier to get 99 percentile on MAP than being in-pool for universal screening. So most likely all in pool kids are 99 percentile in MAP.

99 percent could be a big range. What are the original score?


251 score.
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2025 09:09     Subject: Re:universal screening

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids who are in-pool are more likely to be accepted into AAP. There are a lot more kids who are parent referred for AAP then are in-pool.


Here's a question--if you parent refer, and your kid also makes it in-pool, is the parent referral letter still read/considered?


Those who are in pool
Are NOT automatically accepted. My son was in pool. Many of his friends too. Did NOT


I understand that.


The conventional wisdom of 10 years ago was that around 2/3 of the in pool kids and around 1/2 of the parent referrals were admitted. I doubt this has changed much. The AAP equity report showed that the GBRS score was much more significant than any test scores for AAP eligibility. The same is likely true for the HOPE.


Wonder what their math is regarding those universal screeners who also submitted parent referrals.

Huh? In the report, the parent referrals were kids who were not in pool. Probably most of the in-pool kids also had parents fill out the referral materials. They're still considered in pool and not parent referrals.


The report probably had two options, in-pool and referred but there are plenty of kids who are in-pool whose parents include the parent questionnaire and their own work samples. We did that 5 years ago for our son when he was in pool. It gives the committee some additional information about your kid and what the parents are seeing at home.


Well, obviously. The PP seemed confused that there were just "in-pool" and "parent referred" categories, and not a "both in pool and parent referred" category. Kids who are in pool are considered that way regardless of whether the parents also fill out a referral form. I would imagine that almost every in-pool packet has a parent referral and questionnaire included.
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2025 06:35     Subject: Re:universal screening

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids who are in-pool are more likely to be accepted into AAP. There are a lot more kids who are parent referred for AAP then are in-pool.


Here's a question--if you parent refer, and your kid also makes it in-pool, is the parent referral letter still read/considered?


Those who are in pool
Are NOT automatically accepted. My son was in pool. Many of his friends too. Did NOT


I understand that.


The conventional wisdom of 10 years ago was that around 2/3 of the in pool kids and around 1/2 of the parent referrals were admitted. I doubt this has changed much. The AAP equity report showed that the GBRS score was much more significant than any test scores for AAP eligibility. The same is likely true for the HOPE.


Wonder what their math is regarding those universal screeners who also submitted parent referrals.

Huh? In the report, the parent referrals were kids who were not in pool. Probably most of the in-pool kids also had parents fill out the referral materials. They're still considered in pool and not parent referrals.


The report probably had two options, in-pool and referred but there are plenty of kids who are in-pool whose parents include the parent questionnaire and their own work samples. We did that 5 years ago for our son when he was in pool. It gives the committee some additional information about your kid and what the parents are seeing at home.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2025 22:34     Subject: Re:universal screening

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
DC got 99 percentile on MAP. Also doing subject-specific AAP since 1st grade.
'
I am curious what the MAP scores are for those who are in pool.


220, for one data point.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2025 16:49     Subject: Re:universal screening

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
DC got 99 percentile on MAP. Also doing subject-specific AAP since 1st grade.
'
I am curious what the MAP scores are for those who are in pool.


It's easier to get 99 percentile on MAP than being in-pool for universal screening. So most likely all in pool kids are 99 percentile in MAP.


I don't think that's true. AAP students are not all 99% in math, and the ones that aren't, can't all be parent referred.

It's also completely irrelevant. If pp's kid scored a 99% in MAP, and she believes her kid belongs in AAP, she should parent refer and provide strong samples. Whether other kids score higher or slightly lower than hers in MAP doesn't matter.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2025 15:48     Subject: Re:universal screening

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids who are in-pool are more likely to be accepted into AAP. There are a lot more kids who are parent referred for AAP then are in-pool.


Here's a question--if you parent refer, and your kid also makes it in-pool, is the parent referral letter still read/considered?


Those who are in pool
Are NOT automatically accepted. My son was in pool. Many of his friends too. Did NOT


I understand that.


The conventional wisdom of 10 years ago was that around 2/3 of the in pool kids and around 1/2 of the parent referrals were admitted. I doubt this has changed much. The AAP equity report showed that the GBRS score was much more significant than any test scores for AAP eligibility. The same is likely true for the HOPE.


GBRS and our parent packet got our kid into AAP. She was nowhere near being in-pool.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2025 15:12     Subject: Re:universal screening

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
DC got 99 percentile on MAP. Also doing subject-specific AAP since 1st grade.
'
I am curious what the MAP scores are for those who are in pool.


It's easier to get 99 percentile on MAP than being in-pool for universal screening. So most likely all in pool kids are 99 percentile in MAP.

99 percent could be a big range. What are the original score?


Composite score 218
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2025 14:41     Subject: Re:universal screening

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
DC got 99 percentile on MAP. Also doing subject-specific AAP since 1st grade.
'
I am curious what the MAP scores are for those who are in pool.


It's easier to get 99 percentile on MAP than being in-pool for universal screening. So most likely all in pool kids are 99 percentile in MAP.

99 percent could be a big range. What are the original score?
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2025 14:33     Subject: Re:universal screening

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
DC got 99 percentile on MAP. Also doing subject-specific AAP since 1st grade.
'
I am curious what the MAP scores are for those who are in pool.


It's easier to get 99 percentile on MAP than being in-pool for universal screening. So most likely all in pool kids are 99 percentile in MAP.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2025 12:08     Subject: Re:universal screening

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
DC got 99 percentile on MAP. Also doing subject-specific AAP since 1st grade.
'
I am curious what the MAP scores are for those who are in pool.


My in pool DC was in the 99th percentile for MAP.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2025 10:11     Subject: Re:universal screening

Anonymous wrote:
DC got 99 percentile on MAP. Also doing subject-specific AAP since 1st grade.
'
I am curious what the MAP scores are for those who are in pool.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2025 09:36     Subject: Re:universal screening

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids who are in-pool are more likely to be accepted into AAP. There are a lot more kids who are parent referred for AAP then are in-pool.


Here's a question--if you parent refer, and your kid also makes it in-pool, is the parent referral letter still read/considered?


Those who are in pool
Are NOT automatically accepted. My son was in pool. Many of his friends too. Did NOT


I understand that.


The conventional wisdom of 10 years ago was that around 2/3 of the in pool kids and around 1/2 of the parent referrals were admitted. I doubt this has changed much. The AAP equity report showed that the GBRS score was much more significant than any test scores for AAP eligibility. The same is likely true for the HOPE.


Wonder what their math is regarding those universal screeners who also submitted parent referrals.

Huh? In the report, the parent referrals were kids who were not in pool. Probably most of the in-pool kids also had parents fill out the referral materials. They're still considered in pool and not parent referrals.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2025 22:36     Subject: Re:universal screening

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids who are in-pool are more likely to be accepted into AAP. There are a lot more kids who are parent referred for AAP then are in-pool.


Here's a question--if you parent refer, and your kid also makes it in-pool, is the parent referral letter still read/considered?


Those who are in pool
Are NOT automatically accepted. My son was in pool. Many of his friends too. Did NOT


I understand that.


The conventional wisdom of 10 years ago was that around 2/3 of the in pool kids and around 1/2 of the parent referrals were admitted. I doubt this has changed much. The AAP equity report showed that the GBRS score was much more significant than any test scores for AAP eligibility. The same is likely true for the HOPE.


Wonder what their math is regarding those universal screeners who also submitted parent referrals.


DC got 99 percentile on MAP. Also doing subject-specific AAP since 1st grade.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2025 21:40     Subject: Re:universal screening

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids who are in-pool are more likely to be accepted into AAP. There are a lot more kids who are parent referred for AAP then are in-pool.


Here's a question--if you parent refer, and your kid also makes it in-pool, is the parent referral letter still read/considered?


Those who are in pool
Are NOT automatically accepted. My son was in pool. Many of his friends too. Did NOT


I understand that.


The conventional wisdom of 10 years ago was that around 2/3 of the in pool kids and around 1/2 of the parent referrals were admitted. I doubt this has changed much. The AAP equity report showed that the GBRS score was much more significant than any test scores for AAP eligibility. The same is likely true for the HOPE.


Wonder what their math is regarding those universal screeners who also submitted parent referrals.