Whatever happened to "his is part of our family. We love him like our kids."?? Now, it's "he is too expensive, let's just cut him loose"...

Anonymous wrote:We had a cat that was routinely going outside the litter box due to medical issues. Yeah, it's a shame, but that's the end of the road.

Oh no. Did the vet agree to euthanize?

We had a cat that was routinely going outside the litter box due to medical issues. Yeah, it's a shame, but that's the end of the road.

Anonymous wrote:OP, look into pet insurance, different vets, and other ways to foot the bil for reasonable care that gives your pet good quality of life. It is reasonable to see a vet 2-4 times a year, give painkillers for arthritis, etc.

Care that prolongs life without good quality is cruel, and so is giving up an elderly sick pet who has spent its whole life with your family. I would euthanize in both situations. I would not put a dog through something like cancer treatment either.

But if you decide to euthanize because you cannot afford routine care ... don't you dare get another dog and start down this path again. Emergencies and illnesses are part of the cost of pet ownership.

How dare you say that? What an ass you are. So only wealthy children should get the benefit of having a pet? And any child who has parents who can’t afford 10k cancer treatments for their dog should be denied any chance of the learning, love and companionship a pet provides? People like you truly disgust me. So out of touch and judgmental

Yes Just out my dog down and waited too long.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s a private vet??

I assume they mean a veterinary office that isn’t owned by a private equity firm, so medical care is focused on your pet’s wellbeing first and foremost instead of on maximizing profit.

+1. The opposite of Friendship Hospital for Animals which is owned by private equity and will push whatever sort of expensive care on pet owners while giving overly rosy/inaccurate info on likely outcomes

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Anonymous wrote:Only if you would do the same for parents or your children or spouse. You'd do that, right?

You're nuts. A miserable animal doesn't know that you are trying to help it, or that they will have a longer life if they endure dialysis or whatever. They just know they are miserable.

However you want to rationalize your abject cruelty, OP.

A death with dignity is NOT abject cruelty. Planning the end of life is becoming more and more acceptable and not just for patients terminal within 6 months.

I’ve worked hospice for well over a decade now and I personally think our pets are very lucky indeed - at least, those whose owners don’t put them through every possible intervention to try to prolong life by a few months without any consideration of the quality of life the treatments are creating.

I’ve seen humans endure awful suffering and loss of personal dignity because we have some warped notion that every bit of life quantity is worthwhile no matter how awful the quality of it.

I have my plan in mind and will choose the time and manner of my exit from this world. I’ve never let my pets endure a slow agonizing decline and death and I won’t put myself through that, either.

Anonymous wrote:Only if you would do the same for parents or your children or spouse. You'd do that, right?

People can express their wishes and pets cannot.
People can understand why they are in a painful treatment or why they feel gross after surgery. Pets cannot.
People have the capacity to anticipate feeling better eventually. Pets do not.

In situations where a human is in a permanently painful state and lacks the mental capacity to understand what is happening - yeah, I think a lot of people would believe euthanasia was the loving choice although it may not be allowed.

Anonymous wrote:Only if you would do the same for parents or your children or spouse. You'd do that, right?

I genuinely wish it were possible for my spouse and children to do this for me when I get close to the end. Unfortunately in the US it is not legal to euthanize people.

Anonymous wrote:OP, look into pet insurance, different vets, and other ways to foot the bil for reasonable care that gives your pet good quality of life. It is reasonable to see a vet 2-4 times a year, give painkillers for arthritis, etc.

Care that prolongs life without good quality is cruel, and so is giving up an elderly sick pet who has spent its whole life with your family. I would euthanize in both situations. I would not put a dog through something like cancer treatment either.

But if you decide to euthanize because you cannot afford routine care ... don't you dare get another dog and start down this path again. Emergencies and illnesses are part of the cost of pet ownership.

Well said, and spot on

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Anonymous wrote:What’s a private vet??

I assume they mean a veterinary office that isn’t owned by a private equity firm, so medical care is focused on your pet’s wellbeing first and foremost instead of on maximizing profit.

I’m not sure many of those exist anymore

Anonymous wrote:What’s a private vet??

I assume they mean a veterinary office that isn’t owned by a private equity firm, so medical care is focused on your pet’s wellbeing first and foremost instead of on maximizing profit.

OP, look into pet insurance, different vets, and other ways to foot the bil for reasonable care that gives your pet good quality of life. It is reasonable to see a vet 2-4 times a year, give painkillers for arthritis, etc.

Care that prolongs life without good quality is cruel, and so is giving up an elderly sick pet who has spent its whole life with your family. I would euthanize in both situations. I would not put a dog through something like cancer treatment either.

But if you decide to euthanize because you cannot afford routine care ... don't you dare get another dog and start down this path again. Emergencies and illnesses are part of the cost of pet ownership.

Pets can’t communicate that they are in pain. They don’t understand they are going to the vet for a procedure that helps them. They are just scared and in pain. They in fact instinctively hide their pain as in the animal world it would attract predators.

I guarantee you that if you asked this question to 20 retired veterinarians who worked before the private equity scourge in veterinary care, they would ALL say it’s better to euthanize the pet.

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Anonymous wrote:Only if you would do the same for parents or your children or spouse. You'd do that, right?

Oh god you're one of those. Please mention this pets = people delusion early and often, so that we may mock and then avoid you!

Oh God, you're one of THOSE. People who shouldn't have pets. And a horrible human being to boot.

Tell me: Were you born wrong or is your lack of compassion learned behavior? Were your parents uncaring, sorry sacks of shit, too?

I can't believe how beautifully this response captures the essence of Those People. Thank you. It's perfect.