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Back to sticking pins in our voodoo dolls

Anonymous wrote:why wouldn't a sanctioned meet qualify as a world record?

Anonymous wrote:why wouldn't a sanctioned meet qualify as a world record?

Anonymous wrote:Wonder where all the snarky posters went

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Anonymous wrote:The definition-of-a-champs-meet debate is tired, as well. What is the point? The KLI is a fast meet where PVS records will be broken, three Gold Medal clubs will compete, media coverage will be generated and the most decorated female Olympian in history will be in the stands and in the pool. It is the top midseason club meet on the East Coast. Period.

What records have fallen? Question mark.

I haven’t watched everything, but the boys 13-14 200 free record was broken.

+1 I haven’t had a chance to look for others, but at a minimum, this record was broken (aside from KL’s incredible swim).

As was the PVS record in 9-10 boys 50 fly and 100 fly.

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Anonymous wrote:The definition-of-a-champs-meet debate is tired, as well. What is the point? The KLI is a fast meet where PVS records will be broken, three Gold Medal clubs will compete, media coverage will be generated and the most decorated female Olympian in history will be in the stands and in the pool. It is the top midseason club meet on the East Coast. Period.

What records have fallen? Question mark.

I haven’t watched everything, but the boys 13-14 200 free record was broken.

+1 I haven’t had a chance to look for others, but at a minimum, this record was broken (aside from KL’s incredible swim).

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Stage 6 Around age 16
Take a gap year

Anonymous wrote:A 13 year old boy with muscles is pretty normal. If he has a mustache and beard though, watch out, he's probably very fast.

Tanner stages Age at the start Noticeable changes
(in males)
Stage 1 After the 9th or 10th birthday None
Stage 2 Around age 11 Pubic hair starts to form
Stage 3 Around age 13 Voice begins to change or “crack”; muscles get larger
Stage 4 Around age 14 Acne may appear; armpit hair forms
Stage 5 Around age 15 Facial hair comes in

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Anonymous wrote:Ledecky’s mile was electrifying

Meh? Yawn. Period.

Anonymous wrote:Ledecky’s mile was electrifying

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Anonymous wrote:As people said earlier the depth at this meet for the 13-14 and Open groups was incredible. My frame of reference is the girls, but it was tough to crack the 13-14 finals without sectional cuts with the exception of yesterday’s 100 free and 200 IM, which I’m guessing may have been somewhat related to being on the last day (although the girls in the 200 back yesterday had 14/16 put down sectional cuts at finals). It was impressive that these events on the girls side weren’t dominated by 14 year olds either, there were 13 year olds making finals and getting sectional cuts.

For most girls there is very little difference developmentally between a 13 and 14 year old. For boys, a very different story and the 13 year old boys making finals are the ones who had precocious puberty. I agree about the depth of the meet!

13 is not precocious puberty for a boy. That’s a medical term used for puberty earlier than the normal range. 13 is normal.

It is normal for starting puberty/early stages. These 13 years olds are not starting - they are already full grown men with full height/muscles/hair. They started years ago (earlier than normal).

A 13 year old boy with muscles is pretty normal. If he has a mustache and beard though, watch out, he's probably very fast.

Tanner stages Age at the start Noticeable changes
(in males)
Stage 1 After the 9th or 10th birthday None
Stage 2 Around age 11 Pubic hair starts to form
Stage 3 Around age 13 Voice begins to change or “crack”; muscles get larger
Stage 4 Around age 14 Acne may appear; armpit hair forms
Stage 5 Around age 15 Facial hair comes in

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Anonymous wrote:As people said earlier the depth at this meet for the 13-14 and Open groups was incredible. My frame of reference is the girls, but it was tough to crack the 13-14 finals without sectional cuts with the exception of yesterday’s 100 free and 200 IM, which I’m guessing may have been somewhat related to being on the last day (although the girls in the 200 back yesterday had 14/16 put down sectional cuts at finals). It was impressive that these events on the girls side weren’t dominated by 14 year olds either, there were 13 year olds making finals and getting sectional cuts.

For most girls there is very little difference developmentally between a 13 and 14 year old. For boys, a very different story and the 13 year old boys making finals are the ones who had precocious puberty. I agree about the depth of the meet!

13 is not precocious puberty for a boy. That’s a medical term used for puberty earlier than the normal range. 13 is normal.

It is normal for starting puberty/early stages. These 13 years olds are not starting - they are already full grown men with full height/muscles/hair. They started years ago (earlier than normal).

A 13 year old boy with muscles is pretty normal. If he has a mustache and beard though, watch out, he's probably very fast.

Tanner stages Age at the start Noticeable changes
(in males)
Stage 1 After the 9th or 10th birthday None
Stage 2 Around age 11 Pubic hair starts to form
Stage 3 Around age 13 Voice begins to change or “crack”; muscles get larger
Stage 4 Around age 14 Acne may appear; armpit hair forms
Stage 5 Around age 15 Facial hair comes in