Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, if a college was offering me free undergrad plus a $4k stipend every year, I'd at least go look. If you know you're headed to medical school, I'd save every dollar I could on undergrad.

If the Univ Alabama graduate applies to Johns Hopkins Med School how will they compete with Ivy League under graduates and graduates from top colleges?

The median MCAT among McCollough students last year was the 97th percentile. Alabama has top professors, doing serious research. The school caters to NMFs and high stats kids (albeit they make up a smaller percentage of the student body).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they have 100 percent med school admission, it’s because they refuse to support some applicants, weeding out at the front end. Better to go to a school that will support any student seeking to pursue the pathway.

Do we really want doctors from schools where "any student" can make it through the program?

The med school admission will weed out the unqualified.

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The point is that schools that do not gatekeep(restrict one from applying to med school even with lower GPA or mcat) are going to have lower med admissions rates than schools or programs within schools where you have to meet an internal GPA/mcat in order to be allowed to apply--thereby artificially inflating the med school acceptance rate from that undergrad. I do not know if The Alabama program gatekeeps or not but 100% is not believable. Top undergrads (Ivies, WashU, Chicago, Stanford) do not gatekeep and have not for the past decade or more. They do advise people to take 1-2+ gap years if the stats do not look likely, which is smart because it raises the chances a lot for those students who listen, but they do not ban them. These top-most non-gatekept schools report overall med admissions of 88-93% at the highest, none 100. The med admissions process does the weeding out not the undergrad premed office.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they have 100 percent med school admission, it’s because they refuse to support some applicants, weeding out at the front end. Better to go to a school that will support any student seeking to pursue the pathway.

Do we really want doctors from schools where "any student" can make it through the program?

I know! The top doctors who graduate from Harvard MedicalSchool , Yale, Stanford , Johns Hopkins, Columbia etc tend to stay with the top hospitals and medical centers. I have a feeling Alabama graduates practice in the rural areas of Southern states. I know I wouldn’t want a doctor who graduated from there.

PP was responding to the fact that Alabama weeds out their pre-med students (eg, someone gets a B or C in orgo). Many schools do this - they will not support your application if they don’t think you will get in.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they have 100 percent med school admission, it’s because they refuse to support some applicants, weeding out at the front end. Better to go to a school that will support any student seeking to pursue the pathway.

Do we really want doctors from schools where "any student" can make it through the program?

I know! The top doctors who graduate from Harvard MedicalSchool , Yale, Stanford , Johns Hopkins, Columbia etc tend to stay with the top hospitals and medical centers. I have a feeling Alabama graduates practice in the rural areas of Southern states. I know I wouldn’t want a doctor who graduated from there.

WTH — Alabama graduates go all over the country. And, UAB is a highly respected and highly ranked med school.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they have 100 percent med school admission, it’s because they refuse to support some applicants, weeding out at the front end. Better to go to a school that will support any student seeking to pursue the pathway.

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Yeah, there are only 10 kids in that photo. Plus the med schools aren’t named.

Anonymous wrote:My child is a National Merit Semifinalist from TJ and we get emails from the school inviting to apply for free. For NMF they provide great package - 100% free + 4000/year for 5 years. They also say 100% med school admission. Is there a reason not to consider UA? Do UA pre-med students end up in Med schools like Harvard or Columbia or UVA some place good?

The aren't giving out that money because it's a desirable place to go. Alabama is a failed state and they are hoping your kid can help save it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they have 100 percent med school admission, it’s because they refuse to support some applicants, weeding out at the front end. Better to go to a school that will support any student seeking to pursue the pathway.

Do we really want doctors from schools where "any student" can make it through the program?

I guess you don't a doctor who went to Harvard, where everyone gets straight As for showing up

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they have 100 percent med school admission, it’s because they refuse to support some applicants, weeding out at the front end. Better to go to a school that will support any student seeking to pursue the pathway.

Do we really want doctors from schools where "any student" can make it through the program?

I know! The top doctors who graduate from Harvard MedicalSchool , Yale, Stanford , Johns Hopkins, Columbia etc tend to stay with the top hospitals and medical centers. I have a feeling Alabama graduates practice in the rural areas of Southern states. I know I wouldn’t want a doctor who graduated from there.

You're not that special. A doctor is just a body mechanic. A striver who failed and is stuck treating someone he thinks he's too good for (you) isn't a good doctor.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a great package if your kid does not mind going to school in a deeply maga state. Mine - also a NMF at TJ but not med school bound - was vehemently opposed to that though.

No one cares about that here - take it to
Politics.

? Not debating politics. It is a real criteria point for some kids re: whether the pros outweigh the cons of moving to a state like this for school. Especially (mainly) for girls.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they have 100 percent med school admission, it’s because they refuse to support some applicants, weeding out at the front end. Better to go to a school that will support any student seeking to pursue the pathway.

Do we really want doctors from schools where "any student" can make it through the program?

The med school admission will weed out the unqualified.

Anonymous wrote:I mean, if a college was offering me free undergrad plus a $4k stipend every year, I'd at least go look. If you know you're headed to medical school, I'd save every dollar I could on undergrad.

If the Univ Alabama graduate applies to Johns Hopkins Med School how will they compete with Ivy League under graduates and graduates from top colleges?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they have 100 percent med school admission, it’s because they refuse to support some applicants, weeding out at the front end. Better to go to a school that will support any student seeking to pursue the pathway.

Do we really want doctors from schools where "any student" can make it through the program?

I know! The top doctors who graduate from Harvard MedicalSchool , Yale, Stanford , Johns Hopkins, Columbia etc tend to stay with the top hospitals and medical centers. I have a feeling Alabama graduates practice in the rural areas of Southern states. I know I wouldn’t want a doctor who graduated from there.

Anonymous wrote:If they have 100 percent med school admission, it’s because they refuse to support some applicants, weeding out at the front end. Better to go to a school that will support any student seeking to pursue the pathway.

Do we really want doctors from schools where "any student" can make it through the program?

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a great package if your kid does not mind going to school in a deeply maga state. Mine - also a NMF at TJ but not med school bound - was vehemently opposed to that though.

No one cares about that here - take it to
Politics.

Sounds like a great package if your kid does not mind going to school in a deeply maga state. Mine - also a NMF at TJ but not med school bound - was vehemently opposed to that though.