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Anonymous wrote:As a full pay family, this just makes me feel like a schmuck. Which is part of why we choose in-state publics even though we could easily cash flow private. I don’t want to pay double for something so that half the kids pay nothing.

You won't be missed.

Actually, their tuition money in fact will be missed.

it really won't be.

Harvard doesn't need tuition money. Not the rank and filing donations from alumni. They both pale compared to what the endowment throws off. It's only a matter of time before they go tuition free. And then you'll all be mad about that!

You can't win with racists.

They are still overcharging full-pay in order to allow students to attend for free. Otherwise they could just lower tuition. If some parents want to pay the cost of 2 kids’ college even though they are only sending one kid, that is certainly their choice.

not true. full cost to harvard is something like 110k a year. every kid is subsidized to some degree. the idea that full pay is paying for others is rooted in ignorance and classism/racism

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Anonymous wrote:Who gave them those billions over last 400 years? Hint Football team demographic.

And the football team demographic still has Harvard games to go to.

My white kid goes to Michigan and his Asian-American friends are getting him interested in football. It's coming from them to him.

Also see where this Chinese-American alum helped pay the NIL for Michigan's star quarterback.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14179003/amp/Oracle-Larry-Ellison-wife-Jolin-Zhu-10M-deal.html

When you look at the world from an outdated perspective, you miss what is really going on and how life is changing.

Harvard was around for a long time before college football ever came along. And it'll likely still be around long after college football is gone.

Anonymous wrote:Lots of threads here recently at self segregating at Stanford, Duke and Ivies. Look at the decline in student attendance at Stanford football and most Ivies.

Smart people are giving up on football because it damages brains. Which smart people are extremely concerned about.

Also, it seems more than a bit uncool to watch people play and damage their brains for your entertainment. The current generation mostly realizes we should care about other people's health.

Because certain populations don't play as much football, there's less interest in watching it. Also teams that are middling to bad tend to draw less fan enthusiasm. Everyone knows that the Ivy Leagues teams don't have champion potential. The schools can't make enough academic concessions to ensure a truly great team.

These are just facets of the contemporary reality of Ivy football. It's a moderately popular campus anachronism.

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Anonymous wrote:Self-segregation occurs all over our country--country clubs, neighborhoods, sororities/fraternities, etc....why would we expect colleges, even Ivies, to be different?

Why the attempt to shame some but not others?

Who says I was trying to shame anyone? Who says I'm not referring to my own neighborhood or country club? I wasn't going to offer an exhaustive list.

Anonymous wrote:Nice try but Larry is white.

But his Chinese-American Michigan alum wife decides where the donations go. And they watch Michigan games together.

That's exactly how demographic change works. Things don't stay the same.

Anonymous wrote:Self-segregation occurs all over our country--country clubs, neighborhoods, sororities/fraternities, etc....why would we expect colleges, even Ivies, to be different?

Why the attempt to shame some but not others?

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Anonymous wrote:As a full pay family, this just makes me feel like a schmuck. Which is part of why we choose in-state publics even though we could easily cash flow private. I don’t want to pay double for something so that half the kids pay nothing.

You won't be missed.

Actually, their tuition money in fact will be missed.

it really won't be.

Harvard doesn't need tuition money. Not the rank and filing donations from alumni. They both pale compared to what the endowment throws off. It's only a matter of time before they go tuition free. And then you'll all be mad about that!

You can't win with racists.

They are still overcharging full-pay in order to allow students to attend for free. Otherwise they could just lower tuition. If some parents want to pay the cost of 2 kids’ college even though they are only sending one kid, that is certainly their choice.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a full pay family, this just makes me feel like a schmuck. Which is part of why we choose in-state publics even though we could easily cash flow private. I don’t want to pay double for something so that half the kids pay nothing.

You won't be missed.

Actually, their tuition money in fact will be missed.

it really won't be.

Harvard doesn't need tuition money. Not the rank and filing donations from alumni. They both pale compared to what the endowment throws off. It's only a matter of time before they go tuition free. And then you'll all be mad about that!

You can't win with racists.

Self-segregation occurs all over our country--country clubs, neighborhoods, sororities/fraternities, etc....why would we expect colleges, even Ivies, to be different?

Lots of threads here recently at self segregating at Stanford, Duke and Ivies. Look at the decline in student attendance at Stanford football and most Ivies.

Agree lots of self segregating by new immigrants.

Anonymous wrote:It’s funny that the racist white folks (pray to god it’s a minority) are caught in a catch 22 situation. If the admissions are race aware it helps the black and Hispanic population. If it’s purely based on merit it helps Asians.
The world has changed. Learn to live with others or get left behind.

Yet it’s the minorities asking about school demographics because they need to be around others just like them. Not really learning to live with others by self segregating.

Anonymous wrote:Alumni giving rates have plummeted at Ivy schools especially at Princeton.

I'm not sure the relevance of your statement to this thread, but current gifts at some Ivies is still strong.

From the Harvard Annual Report: "In fiscal year 2025, Harvard received current use gifts from alumni, foundations, and others totaling $629 million, representing approximately 9% of operating revenues and an increase of 19% or $101 million."

It’s funny that the racist white folks (pray to god it’s a minority) are caught in a catch 22 situation. If the admissions are race aware it helps the black and Hispanic population. If it’s purely based on merit it helps Asians.
The world has changed. Learn to live with others or get left behind.

Nice try but Larry is white.