Anonymous
Post 11/06/2025 17:27     Subject: can someone explain biobanding like I am a third grader?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what DMV MLSNext teams are biobanding?



Every MLSNext teams have bio banded kids in almost all age groups.


there is a 5'6" 13 yo playing down on my son's team and not sure how 5'6" at 13 is an undersized late bloomer but ok I guess. whatever it takes to win. yes I am bitter and no he wasn't 4'10 at beginning of season and had some kind og miraculous 8 inch spurt causing him to have sized out of biobanding. its a jok


I mean if a biobanded kid threatens your kid’s place on the team, then perhaps consider whether your kid is good enough for an MLSNext team?

Maybe it’s team specific. But even the regular starters on my DS MLSNext team don’t ever think their starting slot or time is secure. And that anyone (current teammate, second team player, outsider, etc.) can be better or can get better. They’ve seen it happen a few times on their team and other teams so no one considers biobanded kids any different from any other player threat.


What club is this? This is a great mentality for development.
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2025 17:25     Subject: can someone explain biobanding like I am a third grader?

Anonymous wrote:I am just glad ECNL does not have this kind of biobanding shit. My kid wants to play HS soccer, so MLS is never our option. And even in HS soccer, seniors will not play down in the JV team, and juniors or sophomores will not play down in the freshman team. If they can not make the team for their grade, they will not "bioband" to play in the school team for a younger grade.


Can you take some of these MLS Next parents with you over to ECNL? MLS Next was not created to develop the "next" JV and Varsity high school talents. It was created to develop the next professional players. Whether they are successful is a different question but you are exactly in the right place and it seems like you should bring some people with you.

I am curious for the rest. When a kid shows up to practice or in a game, do parents ask for birth certifications or a bio-banding confirmation? How do you know who is bio-banding because I have never once questioned a kids age? My kids plays against kids that look like they can literally eat him but that is just the nature of development.

When my son first got roughed up by bigger and stronger kids, I did not ask for birth certificates or bio-banding documentation. We went to the Veo. I showed him how much space was available if used his advantages which are soccer IQ, scanning and a great first touch. It took a couple of months but he got it and plays with anticipation. He learned how to create leverage and shield a player once he beats him. He won't be winning any headers for a while still.

Some of you should take this conversation to the Extra Comfortable National League where parent experience and successful events are touted by the CEO. They will make sure you are well taken care of, everything is fair and you have an extra comfortable experience for parent and child.
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2025 16:03     Subject: can someone explain biobanding like I am a third grader?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those whose team had a bio banded player. Where is that player now?


The biobanded kid on my DS MLS Next team played both on age and down. Mainly on age.

Probably only played down 2 or 3 times all year


Our two biobanding players play every game with us. What losers
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2025 12:48     Subject: can someone explain biobanding like I am a third grader?

Anonymous wrote:For those whose team had a bio banded player. Where is that player now?


The biobanded kid on my DS MLS Next team played both on age and down. Mainly on age.

Probably only played down 2 or 3 times all year
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2025 21:39     Subject: can someone explain biobanding like I am a third grader?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what DMV MLSNext teams are biobanding?



Every MLSNext teams have bio banded kids in almost all age groups.


there is a 5'6" 13 yo playing down on my son's team and not sure how 5'6" at 13 is an undersized late bloomer but ok I guess. whatever it takes to win. yes I am bitter and no he wasn't 4'10 at beginning of season and had some kind og miraculous 8 inch spurt causing him to have sized out of biobanding. its a jok


I mean if a biobanded kid threatens your kid’s place on the team, then perhaps consider whether your kid is good enough for an MLSNext team?

Maybe it’s team specific. But even the regular starters on my DS MLSNext team don’t ever think their starting slot or time is secure. And that anyone (current teammate, second team player, outsider, etc.) can be better or can get better. They’ve seen it happen a few times on their team and other teams so no one considers biobanded kids any different from any other player threat.


enough with the tough guy bs. this situation defeats the purpose of bio-banding and is done by clubs purely for a competitive advantage. it is absolutely legitimate to complain about it. it is nonsense that if you are against age-cheating it's because you are afraid your kid can't compete. size and speed matters. That's why there's a bio-banding rule in the first place. That's why there are age groups in the first place. MLS Nest players face plenty of early developing big and fast players, and there's no excuse, or gain, by adding older big and fast players to younger groups.


There should be tougher players and families. It’s simply true. People are afraid their kids can’t compete against biobanders.

And I fully support biobanders if it weeds away a player who doesn’t have it in them to keep competing at MLSNext or who will let a biobander derail their development.

If a player wants a more kumbaya training environment, MLSNext is not it. If a player feels or is threatened by a biobander, they need to move on. There are better environments for them. Like all other leagues that don’t do biobanding.

this is the dumbest take. Biobanding is an excellent tool when used correctly. When used to have bigger players play down for wins it's anti-development. It's not about whining, or whatever, you're on about, it's about competing and developing in the best environment. And "complaining" about it doesn't mean your kid can't handle the MLS Next level, which at times is not very impressive. It's about having development slowed because there are bigger, less-skilled players dragging the level down. Kind of like how your tough guy approach drags down a conversation. Maybe there's a better environment for your argument, like one that doesn't include adults, or words.


Sure. All I hear is whine though. 🤷‍♂️ The profile of those complaining about it are parents or players affected by it and parents on teams being beaten by teams with biohbanded players.

Biobanding slows down development by dragging the level down? Seriously? Have you see MLSNext U13 and U14 teams? Biobanding has negligible effect on level of play when most of the teams are already fielding teams with supersized on-age players relying on speed and strength and not challenging their technical skills.

Whining plus making excuses. What a winning combo.


It's ok. I think you may be a visual learner. I have a U16 MLS Next player and I've seen plenty. You hear whine because
. You have limited capacity.
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2025 21:38     Subject: can someone explain biobanding like I am a third grader?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what DMV MLSNext teams are biobanding?



Every MLSNext teams have bio banded kids in almost all age groups.


there is a 5'6" 13 yo playing down on my son's team and not sure how 5'6" at 13 is an undersized late bloomer but ok I guess. whatever it takes to win. yes I am bitter and no he wasn't 4'10 at beginning of season and had some kind og miraculous 8 inch spurt causing him to have sized out of biobanding. its a jok


I mean if a biobanded kid threatens your kid’s place on the team, then perhaps consider whether your kid is good enough for an MLSNext team?

Maybe it’s team specific. But even the regular starters on my DS MLSNext team don’t ever think their starting slot or time is secure. And that anyone (current teammate, second team player, outsider, etc.) can be better or can get better. They’ve seen it happen a few times on their team and other teams so no one considers biobanded kids any different from any other player threat.


enough with the tough guy bs. this situation defeats the purpose of bio-banding and is done by clubs purely for a competitive advantage. it is absolutely legitimate to complain about it. it is nonsense that if you are against age-cheating it's because you are afraid your kid can't compete. size and speed matters. That's why there's a bio-banding rule in the first place. That's why there are age groups in the first place. MLS Nest players face plenty of early developing big and fast players, and there's no excuse, or gain, by adding older big and fast players to younger groups.


There should be tougher players and families. It’s simply true. People are afraid their kids can’t compete against biobanders.

And I fully support biobanders if it weeds away a player who doesn’t have it in them to keep competing at MLSNext or who will let a biobander derail their development.

If a player wants a more kumbaya training environment, MLSNext is not it. If a player feels or is threatened by a biobander, they need to move on. There are better environments for them. Like all other leagues that don’t do biobanding.

this is the dumbest take. Biobanding is an excellent tool when used correctly. When used to have bigger players play down for wins it's anti-development. It's not about whining, or whatever, you're on about, it's about competing and developing in the best environment. And "complaining" about it doesn't mean your kid can't handle the MLS Next level, which at times is not very impressive. It's about having development slowed because there are bigger, less-skilled players dragging the level down. Kind of like how your tough guy approach drags down a conversation. Maybe there's a better environment for your argument, like one that doesn't include adults, or words.


Sure. All I hear is whine though. 🤷‍♂️ The profile of those complaining about it are parents or players affected by it and parents on teams being beaten by teams with biohbanded players.

Biobanding slows down development by dragging the level down? Seriously? Have you see MLSNext U13 and U14 teams? Biobanding has negligible effect on level of play when most of the teams are already fielding teams with supersized on-age players relying on speed and strength and not challenging their technical skills.

Whining plus making excuses. What a winning combo.


It's ok. I think you may be a visual learner. I have a U16 MLS Next player and I've seen plenty. You hear whine because
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2025 21:05     Subject: can someone explain biobanding like I am a third grader?

I am just glad ECNL does not have this kind of biobanding shit. My kid wants to play HS soccer, so MLS is never our option. And even in HS soccer, seniors will not play down in the JV team, and juniors or sophomores will not play down in the freshman team. If they can not make the team for their grade, they will not "bioband" to play in the school team for a younger grade.
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2025 20:15     Subject: can someone explain biobanding like I am a third grader?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what DMV MLSNext teams are biobanding?



Every MLSNext teams have bio banded kids in almost all age groups.


there is a 5'6" 13 yo playing down on my son's team and not sure how 5'6" at 13 is an undersized late bloomer but ok I guess. whatever it takes to win. yes I am bitter and no he wasn't 4'10 at beginning of season and had some kind og miraculous 8 inch spurt causing him to have sized out of biobanding. its a jok


I mean if a biobanded kid threatens your kid’s place on the team, then perhaps consider whether your kid is good enough for an MLSNext team?

Maybe it’s team specific. But even the regular starters on my DS MLSNext team don’t ever think their starting slot or time is secure. And that anyone (current teammate, second team player, outsider, etc.) can be better or can get better. They’ve seen it happen a few times on their team and other teams so no one considers biobanded kids any different from any other player threat.


enough with the tough guy bs. this situation defeats the purpose of bio-banding and is done by clubs purely for a competitive advantage. it is absolutely legitimate to complain about it. it is nonsense that if you are against age-cheating it's because you are afraid your kid can't compete. size and speed matters. That's why there's a bio-banding rule in the first place. That's why there are age groups in the first place. MLS Nest players face plenty of early developing big and fast players, and there's no excuse, or gain, by adding older big and fast players to younger groups.


There should be tougher players and families. It’s simply true. People are afraid their kids can’t compete against biobanders.

And I fully support biobanders if it weeds away a player who doesn’t have it in them to keep competing at MLSNext or who will let a biobander derail their development.

If a player wants a more kumbaya training environment, MLSNext is not it. If a player feels or is threatened by a biobander, they need to move on. There are better environments for them. Like all other leagues that don’t do biobanding.

this is the dumbest take. Biobanding is an excellent tool when used correctly. When used to have bigger players play down for wins it's anti-development. It's not about whining, or whatever, you're on about, it's about competing and developing in the best environment. And "complaining" about it doesn't mean your kid can't handle the MLS Next level, which at times is not very impressive. It's about having development slowed because there are bigger, less-skilled players dragging the level down. Kind of like how your tough guy approach drags down a conversation. Maybe there's a better environment for your argument, like one that doesn't include adults, or words.


Sure. All I hear is whine though. 🤷‍♂️ The profile of those complaining about it are parents or players affected by it and parents on teams being beaten by teams with biohbanded players.

Biobanding slows down development by dragging the level down? Seriously? Have you see MLSNext U13 and U14 teams? Biobanding has negligible effect on level of play when most of the teams are already fielding teams with supersized on-age players relying on speed and strength and not challenging their technical skills.

Whining plus making excuses. What a winning combo.
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2025 19:25     Subject: can someone explain biobanding like I am a third grader?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what DMV MLSNext teams are biobanding?



Every MLSNext teams have bio banded kids in almost all age groups.


there is a 5'6" 13 yo playing down on my son's team and not sure how 5'6" at 13 is an undersized late bloomer but ok I guess. whatever it takes to win. yes I am bitter and no he wasn't 4'10 at beginning of season and had some kind og miraculous 8 inch spurt causing him to have sized out of biobanding. its a jok


I mean if a biobanded kid threatens your kid’s place on the team, then perhaps consider whether your kid is good enough for an MLSNext team?

Maybe it’s team specific. But even the regular starters on my DS MLSNext team don’t ever think their starting slot or time is secure. And that anyone (current teammate, second team player, outsider, etc.) can be better or can get better. They’ve seen it happen a few times on their team and other teams so no one considers biobanded kids any different from any other player threat.


enough with the tough guy bs. this situation defeats the purpose of bio-banding and is done by clubs purely for a competitive advantage. it is absolutely legitimate to complain about it. it is nonsense that if you are against age-cheating it's because you are afraid your kid can't compete. size and speed matters. That's why there's a bio-banding rule in the first place. That's why there are age groups in the first place. MLS Nest players face plenty of early developing big and fast players, and there's no excuse, or gain, by adding older big and fast players to younger groups.


There should be tougher players and families. It’s simply true. People are afraid their kids can’t compete against biobanders.

And I fully support biobanders if it weeds away a player who doesn’t have it in them to keep competing at MLSNext or who will let a biobander derail their development.

If a player wants a more kumbaya training environment, MLSNext is not it. If a player feels or is threatened by a biobander, they need to move on. There are better environments for them. Like all other leagues that don’t do biobanding.

this is the dumbest take. Biobanding is an excellent tool when used correctly. When used to have bigger players play down for wins it's anti-development. It's not about whining, or whatever, you're on about, it's about competing and developing in the best environment. And "complaining" about it doesn't mean your kid can't handle the MLS Next level, which at times is not very impressive. It's about having development slowed because there are bigger, less-skilled players dragging the level down. Kind of like how your tough guy approach drags down a conversation. Maybe there's a better environment for your argument, like one that doesn't include adults, or words.
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2025 18:38     Subject: can someone explain biobanding like I am a third grader?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what DMV MLSNext teams are biobanding?



Every MLSNext teams have bio banded kids in almost all age groups.


there is a 5'6" 13 yo playing down on my son's team and not sure how 5'6" at 13 is an undersized late bloomer but ok I guess. whatever it takes to win. yes I am bitter and no he wasn't 4'10 at beginning of season and had some kind og miraculous 8 inch spurt causing him to have sized out of biobanding. its a jok


I mean if a biobanded kid threatens your kid’s place on the team, then perhaps consider whether your kid is good enough for an MLSNext team?

Maybe it’s team specific. But even the regular starters on my DS MLSNext team don’t ever think their starting slot or time is secure. And that anyone (current teammate, second team player, outsider, etc.) can be better or can get better. They’ve seen it happen a few times on their team and other teams so no one considers biobanded kids any different from any other player threat.


enough with the tough guy bs. this situation defeats the purpose of bio-banding and is done by clubs purely for a competitive advantage. it is absolutely legitimate to complain about it. it is nonsense that if you are against age-cheating it's because you are afraid your kid can't compete. size and speed matters. That's why there's a bio-banding rule in the first place. That's why there are age groups in the first place. MLS Nest players face plenty of early developing big and fast players, and there's no excuse, or gain, by adding older big and fast players to younger groups.


There should be tougher players and families. It’s simply true. People are afraid their kids can’t compete against biobanders.

And I fully support biobanders if it weeds away a player who doesn’t have it in them to keep competing at MLSNext or who will let a biobander derail their development.

If a player wants a more kumbaya training environment, MLSNext is not it. If a player feels or is threatened by a biobander, they need to move on. There are better environments for them. Like all other leagues that don’t do biobanding.



Most biobanding are cheaters and younger players look down on them.


Players look down on players who complain about biobanders too. Or who complain in general. Or maybe just feels sorry for them. Either way, they do not want that mentality on the team.


I think it is more like despise than complain.
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2025 17:28     Subject: can someone explain biobanding like I am a third grader?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what DMV MLSNext teams are biobanding?



Every MLSNext teams have bio banded kids in almost all age groups.


there is a 5'6" 13 yo playing down on my son's team and not sure how 5'6" at 13 is an undersized late bloomer but ok I guess. whatever it takes to win. yes I am bitter and no he wasn't 4'10 at beginning of season and had some kind og miraculous 8 inch spurt causing him to have sized out of biobanding. its a jok


I mean if a biobanded kid threatens your kid’s place on the team, then perhaps consider whether your kid is good enough for an MLSNext team?

Maybe it’s team specific. But even the regular starters on my DS MLSNext team don’t ever think their starting slot or time is secure. And that anyone (current teammate, second team player, outsider, etc.) can be better or can get better. They’ve seen it happen a few times on their team and other teams so no one considers biobanded kids any different from any other player threat.


enough with the tough guy bs. this situation defeats the purpose of bio-banding and is done by clubs purely for a competitive advantage. it is absolutely legitimate to complain about it. it is nonsense that if you are against age-cheating it's because you are afraid your kid can't compete. size and speed matters. That's why there's a bio-banding rule in the first place. That's why there are age groups in the first place. MLS Nest players face plenty of early developing big and fast players, and there's no excuse, or gain, by adding older big and fast players to younger groups.


There should be tougher players and families. It’s simply true. People are afraid their kids can’t compete against biobanders.

And I fully support biobanders if it weeds away a player who doesn’t have it in them to keep competing at MLSNext or who will let a biobander derail their development.

If a player wants a more kumbaya training environment, MLSNext is not it. If a player feels or is threatened by a biobander, they need to move on. There are better environments for them. Like all other leagues that don’t do biobanding.



Most biobanding are cheaters and younger players look down on them.


Players look down on players who complain about biobanders too. Or who complain in general. Or maybe just feels sorry for them. Either way, they do not want that mentality on the team.
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2025 17:24     Subject: can someone explain biobanding like I am a third grader?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what DMV MLSNext teams are biobanding?



Every MLSNext teams have bio banded kids in almost all age groups.


there is a 5'6" 13 yo playing down on my son's team and not sure how 5'6" at 13 is an undersized late bloomer but ok I guess. whatever it takes to win. yes I am bitter and no he wasn't 4'10 at beginning of season and had some kind og miraculous 8 inch spurt causing him to have sized out of biobanding. its a jok


I mean if a biobanded kid threatens your kid’s place on the team, then perhaps consider whether your kid is good enough for an MLSNext team?

Maybe it’s team specific. But even the regular starters on my DS MLSNext team don’t ever think their starting slot or time is secure. And that anyone (current teammate, second team player, outsider, etc.) can be better or can get better. They’ve seen it happen a few times on their team and other teams so no one considers biobanded kids any different from any other player threat.


enough with the tough guy bs. this situation defeats the purpose of bio-banding and is done by clubs purely for a competitive advantage. it is absolutely legitimate to complain about it. it is nonsense that if you are against age-cheating it's because you are afraid your kid can't compete. size and speed matters. That's why there's a bio-banding rule in the first place. That's why there are age groups in the first place. MLS Nest players face plenty of early developing big and fast players, and there's no excuse, or gain, by adding older big and fast players to younger groups.


There should be tougher players and families. It’s simply true. People are afraid their kids can’t compete against biobanders.

And I fully support biobanders if it weeds away a player who doesn’t have it in them to keep competing at MLSNext or who will let a biobander derail their development.

If a player wants a more kumbaya training environment, MLSNext is not it. If a player feels or is threatened by a biobander, they need to move on. There are better environments for them. Like all other leagues that don’t do biobanding.



Most biobanding are cheaters and younger players look down on them.
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2025 17:06     Subject: can someone explain biobanding like I am a third grader?

For those whose team had a bio banded player. Where is that player now?
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2025 16:43     Subject: can someone explain biobanding like I am a third grader?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what DMV MLSNext teams are biobanding?



Every MLSNext teams have bio banded kids in almost all age groups.


there is a 5'6" 13 yo playing down on my son's team and not sure how 5'6" at 13 is an undersized late bloomer but ok I guess. whatever it takes to win. yes I am bitter and no he wasn't 4'10 at beginning of season and had some kind og miraculous 8 inch spurt causing him to have sized out of biobanding. its a jok


I mean if a biobanded kid threatens your kid’s place on the team, then perhaps consider whether your kid is good enough for an MLSNext team?

Maybe it’s team specific. But even the regular starters on my DS MLSNext team don’t ever think their starting slot or time is secure. And that anyone (current teammate, second team player, outsider, etc.) can be better or can get better. They’ve seen it happen a few times on their team and other teams so no one considers biobanded kids any different from any other player threat.


enough with the tough guy bs. this situation defeats the purpose of bio-banding and is done by clubs purely for a competitive advantage. it is absolutely legitimate to complain about it. it is nonsense that if you are against age-cheating it's because you are afraid your kid can't compete. size and speed matters. That's why there's a bio-banding rule in the first place. That's why there are age groups in the first place. MLS Nest players face plenty of early developing big and fast players, and there's no excuse, or gain, by adding older big and fast players to younger groups.


There should be tougher players and families. It’s simply true. People are afraid their kids can’t compete against biobanders.

And I fully support biobanders if it weeds away a player who doesn’t have it in them to keep competing at MLSNext or who will let a biobander derail their development.

If a player wants a more kumbaya training environment, MLSNext is not it. If a player feels or is threatened by a biobander, they need to move on. There are better environments for them. Like all other leagues that don’t do biobanding.



I agree. Biobanding used the right way can be effective. Biobanding used in the US is for winning games and making parents happy.
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2025 16:33     Subject: can someone explain biobanding like I am a third grader?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what DMV MLSNext teams are biobanding?



Every MLSNext teams have bio banded kids in almost all age groups.


there is a 5'6" 13 yo playing down on my son's team and not sure how 5'6" at 13 is an undersized late bloomer but ok I guess. whatever it takes to win. yes I am bitter and no he wasn't 4'10 at beginning of season and had some kind og miraculous 8 inch spurt causing him to have sized out of biobanding. its a jok


I mean if a biobanded kid threatens your kid’s place on the team, then perhaps consider whether your kid is good enough for an MLSNext team?

Maybe it’s team specific. But even the regular starters on my DS MLSNext team don’t ever think their starting slot or time is secure. And that anyone (current teammate, second team player, outsider, etc.) can be better or can get better. They’ve seen it happen a few times on their team and other teams so no one considers biobanded kids any different from any other player threat.


enough with the tough guy bs. this situation defeats the purpose of bio-banding and is done by clubs purely for a competitive advantage. it is absolutely legitimate to complain about it. it is nonsense that if you are against age-cheating it's because you are afraid your kid can't compete. size and speed matters. That's why there's a bio-banding rule in the first place. That's why there are age groups in the first place. MLS Nest players face plenty of early developing big and fast players, and there's no excuse, or gain, by adding older big and fast players to younger groups.


There should be tougher players and families. It’s simply true. People are afraid their kids can’t compete against biobanders.

And I fully support biobanders if it weeds away a player who doesn’t have it in them to keep competing at MLSNext or who will let a biobander derail their development.

If a player wants a more kumbaya training environment, MLSNext is not it. If a player feels or is threatened by a biobander, they need to move on. There are better environments for them. Like all other leagues that don’t do biobanding.