Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Also in case you all were interested, this policy is stated clearly on the FCPS website as well:
In both rolling and quarterly gradebooks, students must be allowed to reassess summative assessments that occur at the end of a quarter.
So what the teacher said to the kids was absolute bs, wrong, and against the policy. I don’t want a teacher like that.
And if it is right at the very end, just hold it for the next quarter.
Anonymous wrote:Also in case you all were interested, this policy is stated clearly on the FCPS website as well:
In both rolling and quarterly gradebooks, students must be allowed to reassess summative assessments that occur at the end of a quarter.
So what the teacher said to the kids was absolute bs, wrong, and against the policy. I don’t want a teacher like that.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yay! Let’s teach our kids to not prepare for tests so we can take them again. Let’s also teach them that emails from mommy get stuff done. It’s no wonder nobody wants to teach.
Yes emails from parents work. I highly recommend them!
That’s okay. My kid studies for tests the first time and doesn’t need mommy to email his teachers.
When a teacher blatantly disregards a country policy, yes an adult needs to step in. In fact, this teacher was doubling down during math class saying no retakes but did a complete turnaround 2 hours after school. This teacher creates a culture of fear and kids are scared to approach her.
DP, but our DCs apparently have the same teacher. I’m glad someone spoke up. One of the reasons I liked this teacher so much was because they made the test retake policy explicitly clear at BTSN. And like it or not, it’s FCPS policy. You can’t just flippantly change it because you suddenly don’t agree with it. I mean, imagine if we lived in a country where you could just change laws on a whim because you don’t agree with them. What kind of message does this send to the kids?
Yes, but if it is a rolling grade book, can’t the retest occur next quarter?
It is now, but as OP stated, the class was initially told that there would be no retakes since it was the end of the quarter. However, yesterday the students received an email detailing the extensive parameters they must meet in order to retake the test, which will be administered after school hours.
+1 why is it after school? That’s not fair to kids who have after school commitments.
I’m all for allowing retakes and schools provide after school buses. If school isn’t a priority for your kid, they don’t need to retake. If they have some super specific issue like caring for younger sibling, they should talk with the teacher. I don’t think missing soccer of karate is an appropriate excuse.
I’m honestly floored that you would ask this. Your kid didn’t get it the first (no judgment, my kids have been there multiple times) and then get a chance to improve and now you’re complaining about that? It should be slightly inconvenient IMO or why wouldn’t everyone just retake everything and plan for that?
Kids should be allowed to retake during their advisory time. Not be made to stay after school. Period.
Sorry, then you better get ready for high school, when they they are often after school. Complain too much and maybe they will change the policy. It’s already a lot for teachers. I’m flexible with it since it’s honestly a favor to let my kid retake (I understand the policy is to allow them but that is very generous and could change any time.)
I have a high schooler and not one of their teachers have EVER mandated a retake after school. They have always been during advisory.
And no, offering a retake is not a favor for your student.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yay! Let’s teach our kids to not prepare for tests so we can take them again. Let’s also teach them that emails from mommy get stuff done. It’s no wonder nobody wants to teach.
Yes emails from parents work. I highly recommend them!
That’s okay. My kid studies for tests the first time and doesn’t need mommy to email his teachers.
When a teacher blatantly disregards a country policy, yes an adult needs to step in. In fact, this teacher was doubling down during math class saying no retakes but did a complete turnaround 2 hours after school. This teacher creates a culture of fear and kids are scared to approach her.
DP, but our DCs apparently have the same teacher. I’m glad someone spoke up. One of the reasons I liked this teacher so much was because they made the test retake policy explicitly clear at BTSN. And like it or not, it’s FCPS policy. You can’t just flippantly change it because you suddenly don’t agree with it. I mean, imagine if we lived in a country where you could just change laws on a whim because you don’t agree with them. What kind of message does this send to the kids?
This teacher also constantly does unannounced quizzes on performance matters after the unit test. They aren’t necessarily on the current topic of study, and aren’t available to review to see what they got wrong. This teacher seems to have a “gotcha” mentality. She also grades every single thing they do, so there is no time to just practice without fear of making mistakes. This teacher had a total of 15 formative assignments this quarter which is insane. Also, she turned mathspace assigbemnts (which had questions way over the scope of what they did in class) into summatives. She also grades every mathspace based on 100% accuracy. You only get full credit if you get everything correct. It is absolutely ridiculous. My child hates math now as a result of this teacher.
This is what full credit means - you got everything correct. Looks like your child is having an excellent teacher. Send them a gift card and a thank you note for Christmas.
Full credit means you completed the assignment. In the case of math space, it often means 80% or 90% accuracy, and then you would receive full credit for having done it. High schools do it this way. I have never ever seen it where it is graded based on how many you actually got correct. It is supposed to be a practice tool, not used for a summative assessment. In addition, mathspace is often finicky.
Getting points deducted for wrong answers on math homework is wrong. I don’t agree with this at all. Kids are still learning the material. In addition, we’ve seen the mathspace includes problems they have never seen before or have experience doing and that are way beyond what was actually taught. In this case, the “assessment” doesn’t match the instruction.
What is happening now is that parents will sit down with the kids and just supply the answer so their kid gets full credit. Not everyone had a parent that can do that. It should be based on completion, not accuracy. We’ve told our child now to let us check their work now so that they get full credit and their grade isn’t poorly impacted, which is a shame because my child wanted to be independent.
We were explicitly told this year nothing is allowed to be graded for completion. Everything must have feedback and scored for accuracy. Even homework. This is official county policy.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yay! Let’s teach our kids to not prepare for tests so we can take them again. Let’s also teach them that emails from mommy get stuff done. It’s no wonder nobody wants to teach.
Yes emails from parents work. I highly recommend them!
That’s okay. My kid studies for tests the first time and doesn’t need mommy to email his teachers.
When a teacher blatantly disregards a country policy, yes an adult needs to step in. In fact, this teacher was doubling down during math class saying no retakes but did a complete turnaround 2 hours after school. This teacher creates a culture of fear and kids are scared to approach her.
DP, but our DCs apparently have the same teacher. I’m glad someone spoke up. One of the reasons I liked this teacher so much was because they made the test retake policy explicitly clear at BTSN. And like it or not, it’s FCPS policy. You can’t just flippantly change it because you suddenly don’t agree with it. I mean, imagine if we lived in a country where you could just change laws on a whim because you don’t agree with them. What kind of message does this send to the kids?
This teacher also constantly does unannounced quizzes on performance matters after the unit test. They aren’t necessarily on the current topic of study, and aren’t available to review to see what they got wrong. This teacher seems to have a “gotcha” mentality. She also grades every single thing they do, so there is no time to just practice without fear of making mistakes. This teacher had a total of 15 formative assignments this quarter which is insane. Also, she turned mathspace assigbemnts (which had questions way over the scope of what they did in class) into summatives. She also grades every mathspace based on 100% accuracy. You only get full credit if you get everything correct. It is absolutely ridiculous. My child hates math now as a result of this teacher.
This is what full credit means - you got everything correct. Looks like your child is having an excellent teacher. Send them a gift card and a thank you note for Christmas.
Full credit means you completed the assignment. In the case of math space, it often means 80% or 90% accuracy, and then you would receive full credit for having done it. High schools do it this way. I have never ever seen it where it is graded based on how many you actually got correct. It is supposed to be a practice tool, not used for a summative assessment. In addition, mathspace is often finicky.
Getting points deducted for wrong answers on math homework is wrong. I don’t agree with this at all. Kids are still learning the material. In addition, we’ve seen the mathspace includes problems they have never seen before or have experience doing and that are way beyond what was actually taught. In this case, the “assessment” doesn’t match the instruction.
What is happening now is that parents will sit down with the kids and just supply the answer so their kid gets full credit. Not everyone had a parent that can do that. It should be based on completion, not accuracy. We’ve told our child now to let us check their work now so that they get full credit and their grade isn’t poorly impacted, which is a shame because my child wanted to be independent.
We were explicitly told this year nothing is allowed to be graded for completion. Everything must have feedback and scored for accuracy. Even homework. This is official county policy.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yay! Let’s teach our kids to not prepare for tests so we can take them again. Let’s also teach them that emails from mommy get stuff done. It’s no wonder nobody wants to teach.
Yes emails from parents work. I highly recommend them!
That’s okay. My kid studies for tests the first time and doesn’t need mommy to email his teachers.
When a teacher blatantly disregards a country policy, yes an adult needs to step in. In fact, this teacher was doubling down during math class saying no retakes but did a complete turnaround 2 hours after school. This teacher creates a culture of fear and kids are scared to approach her.
DP, but our DCs apparently have the same teacher. I’m glad someone spoke up. One of the reasons I liked this teacher so much was because they made the test retake policy explicitly clear at BTSN. And like it or not, it’s FCPS policy. You can’t just flippantly change it because you suddenly don’t agree with it. I mean, imagine if we lived in a country where you could just change laws on a whim because you don’t agree with them. What kind of message does this send to the kids?
This teacher also constantly does unannounced quizzes on performance matters after the unit test. They aren’t necessarily on the current topic of study, and aren’t available to review to see what they got wrong. This teacher seems to have a “gotcha” mentality. She also grades every single thing they do, so there is no time to just practice without fear of making mistakes. This teacher had a total of 15 formative assignments this quarter which is insane. Also, she turned mathspace assigbemnts (which had questions way over the scope of what they did in class) into summatives. She also grades every mathspace based on 100% accuracy. You only get full credit if you get everything correct. It is absolutely ridiculous. My child hates math now as a result of this teacher.
This is what full credit means - you got everything correct. Looks like your child is having an excellent teacher. Send them a gift card and a thank you note for Christmas.
Full credit means you completed the assignment. In the case of math space, it often means 80% or 90% accuracy, and then you would receive full credit for having done it. High schools do it this way. I have never ever seen it where it is graded based on how many you actually got correct. It is supposed to be a practice tool, not used for a summative assessment. In addition, mathspace is often finicky.
Getting points deducted for wrong answers on math homework is wrong. I don’t agree with this at all. Kids are still learning the material. In addition, we’ve seen the mathspace includes problems they have never seen before or have experience doing and that are way beyond what was actually taught. In this case, the “assessment” doesn’t match the instruction.
What is happening now is that parents will sit down with the kids and just supply the answer so their kid gets full credit. Not everyone had a parent that can do that. It should be based on completion, not accuracy. We’ve told our child now to let us check their work now so that they get full credit and their grade isn’t poorly impacted, which is a shame because my child wanted to be independent.
We were explicitly told this year nothing is allowed to be graded for completion. Everything must have feedback and scored for accuracy. Even homework. This is official county policy.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yay! Let’s teach our kids to not prepare for tests so we can take them again. Let’s also teach them that emails from mommy get stuff done. It’s no wonder nobody wants to teach.
Yes emails from parents work. I highly recommend them!
That’s okay. My kid studies for tests the first time and doesn’t need mommy to email his teachers.
When a teacher blatantly disregards a country policy, yes an adult needs to step in. In fact, this teacher was doubling down during math class saying no retakes but did a complete turnaround 2 hours after school. This teacher creates a culture of fear and kids are scared to approach her.
DP, but our DCs apparently have the same teacher. I’m glad someone spoke up. One of the reasons I liked this teacher so much was because they made the test retake policy explicitly clear at BTSN. And like it or not, it’s FCPS policy. You can’t just flippantly change it because you suddenly don’t agree with it. I mean, imagine if we lived in a country where you could just change laws on a whim because you don’t agree with them. What kind of message does this send to the kids?
This teacher also constantly does unannounced quizzes on performance matters after the unit test. They aren’t necessarily on the current topic of study, and aren’t available to review to see what they got wrong. This teacher seems to have a “gotcha” mentality. She also grades every single thing they do, so there is no time to just practice without fear of making mistakes. This teacher had a total of 15 formative assignments this quarter which is insane. Also, she turned mathspace assigbemnts (which had questions way over the scope of what they did in class) into summatives. She also grades every mathspace based on 100% accuracy. You only get full credit if you get everything correct. It is absolutely ridiculous. My child hates math now as a result of this teacher.
This is what full credit means - you got everything correct. Looks like your child is having an excellent teacher. Send them a gift card and a thank you note for Christmas.
Full credit means you completed the assignment. In the case of math space, it often means 80% or 90% accuracy, and then you would receive full credit for having done it. High schools do it this way. I have never ever seen it where it is graded based on how many you actually got correct. It is supposed to be a practice tool, not used for a summative assessment. In addition, mathspace is often finicky.
Getting points deducted for wrong answers on math homework is wrong. I don’t agree with this at all. Kids are still learning the material. In addition, we’ve seen the mathspace includes problems they have never seen before or have experience doing and that are way beyond what was actually taught. In this case, the “assessment” doesn’t match the instruction.
What is happening now is that parents will sit down with the kids and just supply the answer so their kid gets full credit. Not everyone had a parent that can do that. It should be based on completion, not accuracy. We’ve told our child now to let us check their work now so that they get full credit and their grade isn’t poorly impacted, which is a shame because my child wanted to be independent.
Anonymous wrote:I have no idea why anyone would want to be a teacher these days. This obsession over a test grade in 7th is insane.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yay! Let’s teach our kids to not prepare for tests so we can take them again. Let’s also teach them that emails from mommy get stuff done. It’s no wonder nobody wants to teach.
Yes emails from parents work. I highly recommend them!
That’s okay. My kid studies for tests the first time and doesn’t need mommy to email his teachers.
When a teacher blatantly disregards a country policy, yes an adult needs to step in. In fact, this teacher was doubling down during math class saying no retakes but did a complete turnaround 2 hours after school. This teacher creates a culture of fear and kids are scared to approach her.
DP, but our DCs apparently have the same teacher. I’m glad someone spoke up. One of the reasons I liked this teacher so much was because they made the test retake policy explicitly clear at BTSN. And like it or not, it’s FCPS policy. You can’t just flippantly change it because you suddenly don’t agree with it. I mean, imagine if we lived in a country where you could just change laws on a whim because you don’t agree with them. What kind of message does this send to the kids?
This teacher also constantly does unannounced quizzes on performance matters after the unit test. They aren’t necessarily on the current topic of study, and aren’t available to review to see what they got wrong. This teacher seems to have a “gotcha” mentality. She also grades every single thing they do, so there is no time to just practice without fear of making mistakes. This teacher had a total of 15 formative assignments this quarter which is insane. Also, she turned mathspace assigbemnts (which had questions way over the scope of what they did in class) into summatives. She also grades every mathspace based on 100% accuracy. You only get full credit if you get everything correct. It is absolutely ridiculous. My child hates math now as a result of this teacher.
This is what full credit means - you got everything correct. Looks like your child is having an excellent teacher. Send them a gift card and a thank you note for Christmas.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yay! Let’s teach our kids to not prepare for tests so we can take them again. Let’s also teach them that emails from mommy get stuff done. It’s no wonder nobody wants to teach.
Yes emails from parents work. I highly recommend them!
That’s okay. My kid studies for tests the first time and doesn’t need mommy to email his teachers.
When a teacher blatantly disregards a country policy, yes an adult needs to step in. In fact, this teacher was doubling down during math class saying no retakes but did a complete turnaround 2 hours after school. This teacher creates a culture of fear and kids are scared to approach her.
DP, but our DCs apparently have the same teacher. I’m glad someone spoke up. One of the reasons I liked this teacher so much was because they made the test retake policy explicitly clear at BTSN. And like it or not, it’s FCPS policy. You can’t just flippantly change it because you suddenly don’t agree with it. I mean, imagine if we lived in a country where you could just change laws on a whim because you don’t agree with them. What kind of message does this send to the kids?
This teacher also constantly does unannounced quizzes on performance matters after the unit test. They aren’t necessarily on the current topic of study, and aren’t available to review to see what they got wrong. This teacher seems to have a “gotcha” mentality. She also grades every single thing they do, so there is no time to just practice without fear of making mistakes. This teacher had a total of 15 formative assignments this quarter which is insane. Also, she turned mathspace assigbemnts (which had questions way over the scope of what they did in class) into summatives. She also grades every mathspace based on 100% accuracy. You only get full credit if you get everything correct. It is absolutely ridiculous. My child hates math now as a result of this teacher.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yay! Let’s teach our kids to not prepare for tests so we can take them again. Let’s also teach them that emails from mommy get stuff done. It’s no wonder nobody wants to teach.
Yes emails from parents work. I highly recommend them!
That’s okay. My kid studies for tests the first time and doesn’t need mommy to email his teachers.
When a teacher blatantly disregards a country policy, yes an adult needs to step in. In fact, this teacher was doubling down during math class saying no retakes but did a complete turnaround 2 hours after school. This teacher creates a culture of fear and kids are scared to approach her.
DP, but our DCs apparently have the same teacher. I’m glad someone spoke up. One of the reasons I liked this teacher so much was because they made the test retake policy explicitly clear at BTSN. And like it or not, it’s FCPS policy. You can’t just flippantly change it because you suddenly don’t agree with it. I mean, imagine if we lived in a country where you could just change laws on a whim because you don’t agree with them. What kind of message does this send to the kids?
Yes, but if it is a rolling grade book, can’t the retest occur next quarter?
It is now, but as OP stated, the class was initially told that there would be no retakes since it was the end of the quarter. However, yesterday the students received an email detailing the extensive parameters they must meet in order to retake the test, which will be administered after school hours.
+1 why is it after school? That’s not fair to kids who have after school commitments.
I’m all for allowing retakes and schools provide after school buses. If school isn’t a priority for your kid, they don’t need to retake. If they have some super specific issue like caring for younger sibling, they should talk with the teacher. I don’t think missing soccer of karate is an appropriate excuse.
I’m honestly floored that you would ask this. Your kid didn’t get it the first (no judgment, my kids have been there multiple times) and then get a chance to improve and now you’re complaining about that? It should be slightly inconvenient IMO or why wouldn’t everyone just retake everything and plan for that?
Kids should be allowed to retake during their advisory time. Not be made to stay after school. Period.
Sorry, then you better get ready for high school, when they they are often after school. Complain too much and maybe they will change the policy. It’s already a lot for teachers. I’m flexible with it since it’s honestly a favor to let my kid retake (I understand the policy is to allow them but that is very generous and could change any time.)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yay! Let’s teach our kids to not prepare for tests so we can take them again. Let’s also teach them that emails from mommy get stuff done. It’s no wonder nobody wants to teach.
Yes emails from parents work. I highly recommend them!
That’s okay. My kid studies for tests the first time and doesn’t need mommy to email his teachers.
When a teacher blatantly disregards a country policy, yes an adult needs to step in. In fact, this teacher was doubling down during math class saying no retakes but did a complete turnaround 2 hours after school. This teacher creates a culture of fear and kids are scared to approach her.
DP, but our DCs apparently have the same teacher. I’m glad someone spoke up. One of the reasons I liked this teacher so much was because they made the test retake policy explicitly clear at BTSN. And like it or not, it’s FCPS policy. You can’t just flippantly change it because you suddenly don’t agree with it. I mean, imagine if we lived in a country where you could just change laws on a whim because you don’t agree with them. What kind of message does this send to the kids?
Yes, but if it is a rolling grade book, can’t the retest occur next quarter?
It is now, but as OP stated, the class was initially told that there would be no retakes since it was the end of the quarter. However, yesterday the students received an email detailing the extensive parameters they must meet in order to retake the test, which will be administered after school hours.
+1 why is it after school? That’s not fair to kids who have after school commitments.
I’m all for allowing retakes and schools provide after school buses. If school isn’t a priority for your kid, they don’t need to retake. If they have some super specific issue like caring for younger sibling, they should talk with the teacher. I don’t think missing soccer of karate is an appropriate excuse.
I’m honestly floored that you would ask this. Your kid didn’t get it the first (no judgment, my kids have been there multiple times) and then get a chance to improve and now you’re complaining about that? It should be slightly inconvenient IMO or why wouldn’t everyone just retake everything and plan for that?
Kids should be allowed to retake during their advisory time. Not be made to stay after school. Period.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yay! Let’s teach our kids to not prepare for tests so we can take them again. Let’s also teach them that emails from mommy get stuff done. It’s no wonder nobody wants to teach.
Yes emails from parents work. I highly recommend them!
That’s okay. My kid studies for tests the first time and doesn’t need mommy to email his teachers.
When a teacher blatantly disregards a country policy, yes an adult needs to step in. In fact, this teacher was doubling down during math class saying no retakes but did a complete turnaround 2 hours after school. This teacher creates a culture of fear and kids are scared to approach her.
DP, but our DCs apparently have the same teacher. I’m glad someone spoke up. One of the reasons I liked this teacher so much was because they made the test retake policy explicitly clear at BTSN. And like it or not, it’s FCPS policy. You can’t just flippantly change it because you suddenly don’t agree with it. I mean, imagine if we lived in a country where you could just change laws on a whim because you don’t agree with them. What kind of message does this send to the kids?
Yes, but if it is a rolling grade book, can’t the retest occur next quarter?
It is now, but as OP stated, the class was initially told that there would be no retakes since it was the end of the quarter. However, yesterday the students received an email detailing the extensive parameters they must meet in order to retake the test, which will be administered after school hours.
+1 why is it after school? That’s not fair to kids who have after school commitments.
I don’t know. Is that not standard practice to schedule retakes after school?