Anonymous wrote:If he just graduated this past summer, he should apply for an internship. It is sometimes easier to get a non-summer internship. I do know a few kids who had no job lined up, took internships after graduation (and filled in any empty time with other jobs like retail) and then were able to turn the internship into a full time offer.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look into entering the military as an officer?
He want to build not kill.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My neighbours daughter got a great job at epic in Wisconsin. Apparently they do a lot of hiring and just looking for smart kids.
They have a lot of churn- my cousin's son was so miserable at Epic he quit in this environment without even getting another job. He didn't even consider it a mistake when it took him awhile to find a job- he was THAT miserable.
Anonymous wrote:Why would he ever think to work for someone else? What can he do or learn to work for someone else?
He can work any retail or restaurant job while he figures out what service he can offer as an engineer.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. I'm regretting posting this-- poor timing considering all the people in their 30s - 50s facing unemployment right now.
My son will be OK. Maybe he won't get a job in the engineering field but he can go back to doing customer service or maybe get certified in a trade. Or he could move to a different country that still needs entry level engineers.
There are real problems in the world and this is pretty small in whole scheme of things. Sorry to waste DCUM time.
You did not waste anyone's time
It is concerning and awful for anyone looking for a job right now. He is not alone.
My neighbor is 32 he has worked for all the FANG companies as an engineer graduate of Stanford. Got laid off 4 months ago no one is even reading his resume.
Anonymous wrote:Look into entering the military as an officer?
Anonymous wrote:He graduated end of this summer with an engineering degree from a respectable college and hasn't landed a job yet. He was pretty crushed yesterday because the he had been interviewed several times by a company that does the exact type of work that he wants to do and they told him he was "overqualified education wise but under qualified with work history in the enginneering field". It's like there are no entry level jobs out there to get that work history though. He seems on the verge of begging. He has lots of work experience, but in customer service type jobs, not really as an engineer.
Any advise on what he can do? Is there a temp company for engineering job? Are there internship programs? Could he start his own consulting company?
I asked if he would consider going back to school and that was absolutely refused. He really wants to work and it shocks me that no one will hire him. He graduated from a school like Univeristy of Wisconsin with a good GPA and lots of teacher recommendations-- he worked as grader in his last year for his favorite prof. His alma mater doesn't seem to provide much help for finding a job. Just provides job listings, which, so far, haven't planned out. I'm really regretting that he didn't go to a school with an established co-op program. Although I've heard even students in those schools are having a rough time of it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did he have internships? Those are so important.
To all the parents on here of high school senior or college aged-kids-your kids need internships. Some internships have applications a year+ ahead.
This, AND remember your application starts long before you start the application.
I’m a hiring manager (interns, entry level, managers/directors). The people I hire for internships have summer work experience and activity leadership experience. I like applicants who scooped ice cream last summer, or served as the president of the outdoor club, or worked as an RA. Or really anything other than “I was accepted into/graduated from the engineering program”.
I think a lot of high-achieving parents in this area think their kids should hold out for an internship (over working), or hold out for a prestige job (over something with “assistant” in the title). It’s the same mentality that pushes us to send our kids to mediocre but “big name” state schools in other states so we can brag to our friends and coworkers.
Yes, internships are valuable, but employers don’t want to be babysitters. Show me that you know how to show up on time, sober and wearing the right clothes, and work all day. I can fill in the rest.
Ideally, an application will show summer jobs for a summer or two, and then an internship in summer two or three.
Anonymous wrote:Did he have internships? Those are so important.
To all the parents on here of high school senior or college aged-kids-your kids need internships. Some internships have applications a year+ ahead.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He graduated end of this summer with an engineering degree from a respectable college and hasn't landed a job yet. He was pretty crushed yesterday because the he had been interviewed several times by a company that does the exact type of work that he wants to do and they told him he was "overqualified education wise but under qualified with work history in the enginneering field". It's like there are no entry level jobs out there to get that work history though. He seems on the verge of begging. He has lots of work experience, but in customer service type jobs, not really as an engineer.
Any advise on what he can do? Is there a temp company for engineering job? Are there internship programs? Could he start his own consulting company?
I asked if he would consider going back to school and that was absolutely refused. He really wants to work and it shocks me that no one will hire him. He graduated from a school like Univeristy of Wisconsin with a good GPA and lots of teacher recommendations-- he worked as grader in his last year for his favorite prof. His alma mater doesn't seem to provide much help for finding a job. Just provides job listings, which, so far, haven't planned out. I'm really regretting that he didn't go to a school with an established co-op program. Although I've heard even students in those schools are having a rough time of it.
750k H-1b in force, majority in tech. 250k H-4 EAD work permits for their spouses.
L1+L2 spouses 375k
OPT/STEM OPT - 242k
7 million Green Card holders and other visa types working in STEM.
And i'm not covering it all... Pile on outsourcing (300k jobs a year) and offshoring (over 2 million in India alone). Wake up - this is a huge problem.
H-1B has just become a shorthand for the problem.
Fyi, we approved 140k H-1Bs last year cuz universities and nonprofits are 'uncapped'.
All taking jobs from US citizens , and yet people don’t care until it happens to them