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Anonymous wrote:But who needs light at 7? My kids school starts at 7:30 and we walk. We start walking at 7:20… it’s totally fine. What’s not fine is darkness at 5pm when kids would like to play outside. Instead they just play inside

+1

In the morning all you’re doing is going to work or school. Afternoon is the time people can really enjoy and use the daylight. For a country that desperately needs more exercise, we should be lengthening the time for outdoor activities. We need to make DST permanent and keep that extra hour of sunlight in the afternoon.

We are also a country that is very sleep deprived, so it stays light too long in the summer.

So maybe we should do the opposite - instead of falling back and springing forward, maybe we should fall forward making current DST the fall schedule (so we can enjoy the brief sunlight in the afternoon and still go to bed reasonably early), and spring back, setting the clocks an hour earlier than current DST (so the extra sunlight is in the morning before the heat of the day hits, but the sun will be setting earlier and disrupt less sleep).

Good idea, but I think the movement of the time is actually a big part of the problem. Why do we think that we can manipulate nature without consequences?

Does the clock time manipulate nature? The numbers assigned to the hours of the day are a man-made construct but the rising and setting of the sun continue unchanged.

Our bodies are nature, and we are trying to modify our behavior in a way that deviates from the natural timing of sunrises and sunsets. There is so much research about the detrimental effects of the time changes, please read.

I hate "real time."

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t wait for the long sunny days of June

This is my hell.

Me too! I dread summer, absolutely dread it. I feel so much more alive and happy in the cooler months.

+1000000
Other than moving somewhere north, do you know what we can do to help with impending hot and humid anxiety come spring?

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Anonymous wrote:I am much less likely to get in the car and go to a store when it is dark out. I wonder about the economic impact of having it dark out an hour earlier than normal. Not to mention delivery trucks having to navigate dark streets and parking and pedestrians when it is dark one hour earlier than normal.

The older I get, the less I want to be out in the dark.

+1

+2 I needed something for my lunch last week and had to run ot Giant at 9:30. I kept feeling like I was going to get robbed in the parking lot, lol. Giant is a two-minute drive from my house in a mostly safe neighborhood.

Why not go in the morning?

It's much safer in the early morning, than later at night.

Some of y'all are just night people, and prefer to do things later. You can just as easily (and safely) do those things in the morning - before work, school, etc. You just don't want to.

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Anonymous wrote:I am much less likely to get in the car and go to a store when it is dark out. I wonder about the economic impact of having it dark out an hour earlier than normal. Not to mention delivery trucks having to navigate dark streets and parking and pedestrians when it is dark one hour earlier than normal.

The older I get, the less I want to be out in the dark.

+1

+2 I needed something for my lunch last week and had to run ot Giant at 9:30. I kept feeling like I was going to get robbed in the parking lot, lol. Giant is a two-minute drive from my house in a mostly safe neighborhood.

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Anonymous wrote:But who needs light at 7? My kids school starts at 7:30 and we walk. We start walking at 7:20… it’s totally fine. What’s not fine is darkness at 5pm when kids would like to play outside. Instead they just play inside

+1 it's so sad for kids being able to play after school. It gets dark so it's colder and less safe with drivers.

From a public health / childhood obesity / keeping kids of screens perspective, it's a no brainer.

Oh put away the violin. It’s DST the vast majority of the year and standard time for a tiny little portion. If it helped at all with childhood obesity, American children should be doing just fine.

Well it's irrelevant in the summer months. The point is about fall specifically.

it’s spring and summer and some of fall. Not just “the summer months” DST starts in March. So you’re argument kids are really good at keeping in shape and staying off screens from March to November but all that obesity happens because of those dastardly few months of standard time. Get over it. One extra hour of sunlight isn’t keeping kids off their iPads especially when they are all usually at some scheduled afterschool activity during those months anyway

Yeah. It will be so much safer for all those poor MS kids in the morning next week!

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Anonymous wrote:But who needs light at 7? My kids school starts at 7:30 and we walk. We start walking at 7:20… it’s totally fine. What’s not fine is darkness at 5pm when kids would like to play outside. Instead they just play inside

+1

In the morning all you’re doing is going to work or school. Afternoon is the time people can really enjoy and use the daylight. For a country that desperately needs more exercise, we should be lengthening the time for outdoor activities. We need to make DST permanent and keep that extra hour of sunlight in the afternoon.

We are also a country that is very sleep deprived, so it stays light too long in the summer.

So maybe we should do the opposite - instead of falling back and springing forward, maybe we should fall forward making current DST the fall schedule (so we can enjoy the brief sunlight in the afternoon and still go to bed reasonably early), and spring back, setting the clocks an hour earlier than current DST (so the extra sunlight is in the morning before the heat of the day hits, but the sun will be setting earlier and disrupt less sleep).

Good idea, but I think the movement of the time is actually a big part of the problem. Why do we think that we can manipulate nature without consequences?

Does the clock time manipulate nature? The numbers assigned to the hours of the day are a man-made construct but the rising and setting of the sun continue unchanged.

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Anonymous wrote:But who needs light at 7? My kids school starts at 7:30 and we walk. We start walking at 7:20… it’s totally fine. What’s not fine is darkness at 5pm when kids would like to play outside. Instead they just play inside

+1 it's so sad for kids being able to play after school. It gets dark so it's colder and less safe with drivers.

From a public health / childhood obesity / keeping kids of screens perspective, it's a no brainer.

Oh put away the violin. It’s DST the vast majority of the year and standard time for a tiny little portion. If it helped at all with childhood obesity, American children should be doing just fine.

Well it's irrelevant in the summer months. The point is about fall specifically.

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Anonymous wrote:I am much less likely to get in the car and go to a store when it is dark out. I wonder about the economic impact of having it dark out an hour earlier than normal. Not to mention delivery trucks having to navigate dark streets and parking and pedestrians when it is dark one hour earlier than normal.

The older I get, the less I want to be out in the dark.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:But who needs light at 7? My kids school starts at 7:30 and we walk. We start walking at 7:20… it’s totally fine. What’s not fine is darkness at 5pm when kids would like to play outside. Instead they just play inside

+1 it's so sad for kids being able to play after school. It gets dark so it's colder and less safe with drivers.

From a public health / childhood obesity / keeping kids of screens perspective, it's a no brainer.

Oh put away the violin. It’s DST the vast majority of the year and standard time for a tiny little portion. If it helped at all with childhood obesity, American children should be doing just fine.

Anonymous wrote:I am much less likely to get in the car and go to a store when it is dark out. I wonder about the economic impact of having it dark out an hour earlier than normal. Not to mention delivery trucks having to navigate dark streets and parking and pedestrians when it is dark one hour earlier than normal.

The older I get, the less I want to be out in the dark.

I am much less likely to get in the car and go to a store when it is dark out. I wonder about the economic impact of having it dark out an hour earlier than normal. Not to mention delivery trucks having to navigate dark streets and parking and pedestrians when it is dark one hour earlier than normal.

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Anonymous wrote:But who needs light at 7? My kids school starts at 7:30 and we walk. We start walking at 7:20… it’s totally fine. What’s not fine is darkness at 5pm when kids would like to play outside. Instead they just play inside

+1

In the morning all you’re doing is going to work or school. Afternoon is the time people can really enjoy and use the daylight. For a country that desperately needs more exercise, we should be lengthening the time for outdoor activities. We need to make DST permanent and keep that extra hour of sunlight in the afternoon.

We are also a country that is very sleep deprived, so it stays light too long in the summer.

So maybe we should do the opposite - instead of falling back and springing forward, maybe we should fall forward making current DST the fall schedule (so we can enjoy the brief sunlight in the afternoon and still go to bed reasonably early), and spring back, setting the clocks an hour earlier than current DST (so the extra sunlight is in the morning before the heat of the day hits, but the sun will be setting earlier and disrupt less sleep).

Good idea, but I think the movement of the time is actually a big part of the problem. Why do we think that we can manipulate nature without consequences?

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Anonymous wrote:But who needs light at 7? My kids school starts at 7:30 and we walk. We start walking at 7:20… it’s totally fine. What’s not fine is darkness at 5pm when kids would like to play outside. Instead they just play inside

+1 it's so sad for kids being able to play after school. It gets dark so it's colder and less safe with drivers.

From a public health / childhood obesity / keeping kids of screens perspective, it's a no brainer.

Dark for younger ES 5-7pm
" " for older ES 5-8/8:30pm
" " for Ms kids 5-9pm
" " for HS 5-10pm/11pm

You can't find them anything to die for 3-5hrs after it gets dark? Do you need randos in here to write out activities list for your kid ?