Anonymous
Post 11/14/2025 20:11     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school

Anonymous wrote:Google flooded schools with Chromebooks to gain Marketshare from Windows. Enough kids using Chromebooks through school, and needing them for school (completely locked into the google ecosystem) and you'll take a substantial marketshare from Microsoft. Thats the only reason why we have them. There was no study showing how effective they may be, they just hyped everyone up about computers for students and then left us with the problem.
Now that we have been working through this for a couple years, we are seeing how incredibly INEFFECTIVE chromebooks are for learning, and how frankly destructive they are to the learning environment.


Apple did the same thing with iPads. Both companies are just trying to lock generations into their ecosystems and grab their data. They have both been wildly successful. So successful that Microsoft started pushing Teams during the pandemic.

They all suck. Get chromebooks and ipads out of school! They provide no benefit and have nothing bit downsides.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2025 14:46     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school

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Anonymous wrote:There are no advertising ads or access to YouTube or any other site on our Chromebooks

Computers are here to stay. Instead of seeing them as evil why not try to show your child what you can learn from the internet. Show him how to identify legitimate sites for information he’s looking for. Unless he’s going to be using library books for research papers he needs to know how to use it for the right reasons.


My lower elementary kid does not need the Chromebook or its distractions. It is harmful at the younger grades, even if it might have value at older grades.


Neat. Sounds like Catholic (and no, you don’t have to be Catholic) or homeschooling is right for you.


Kids in montessori almost never use computers.


And if a Montessori school does, then it usually will be once a week, supervised, and only for typing class or a computer class...


College computer science prof here: do not give kids Chromebook in elementary school, instead show them how to type and use a desktop properly once a week. Take tablets away! No phone until 8th grade. Using chrome book has little to do with digital literacy. My students have phones and fancy touch screen laptops but they don’t know how to find files in their computers.


This. To the extent that there are concerns that children won't be prepared for the 21st century, we should be teaching them how to program--but of course that doesn't make as much money for big tech as IXL learning and other apps.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2025 14:19     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Google flooded schools with Chromebooks to gain Marketshare from Windows. Enough kids using Chromebooks through school, and needing them for school (completely locked into the google ecosystem) and you'll take a substantial marketshare from Microsoft. Thats the only reason why we have them. There was no study showing how effective they may be, they just hyped everyone up about computers for students and then left us with the problem.
Now that we have been working through this for a couple years, we are seeing how incredibly INEFFECTIVE chromebooks are for learning, and how frankly destructive they are to the learning environment.


The government should really commission a study of socioeconomically comparable schools in which some have chromebooks and others do traditional learning, and look at the effect on learning outcomes.


There aren’t any left that do traditional learning


That's not true. Our kids barely use computers at school.



What school? Please say. I’m looking for a zero tech school.


Montessori schools are pretty much all anti-tech. Doesn't fit their philosophy of teaching.


Oneness family school. They do teach kids to type.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2025 09:38     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Google flooded schools with Chromebooks to gain Marketshare from Windows. Enough kids using Chromebooks through school, and needing them for school (completely locked into the google ecosystem) and you'll take a substantial marketshare from Microsoft. Thats the only reason why we have them. There was no study showing how effective they may be, they just hyped everyone up about computers for students and then left us with the problem.
Now that we have been working through this for a couple years, we are seeing how incredibly INEFFECTIVE chromebooks are for learning, and how frankly destructive they are to the learning environment.


The government should really commission a study of socioeconomically comparable schools in which some have chromebooks and others do traditional learning, and look at the effect on learning outcomes.


There aren’t any left that do traditional learning


That's not true. Our kids barely use computers at school.


What school? Please say. I’m looking for a zero tech school.


Montessori schools are pretty much all anti-tech. Doesn't fit their philosophy of teaching.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2025 07:39     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:There are no advertising ads or access to YouTube or any other site on our Chromebooks

Computers are here to stay. Instead of seeing them as evil why not try to show your child what you can learn from the internet. Show him how to identify legitimate sites for information he’s looking for. Unless he’s going to be using library books for research papers he needs to know how to use it for the right reasons.


My lower elementary kid does not need the Chromebook or its distractions. It is harmful at the younger grades, even if it might have value at older grades.


Neat. Sounds like Catholic (and no, you don’t have to be Catholic) or homeschooling is right for you.


Kids in montessori almost never use computers.


And if a Montessori school does, then it usually will be once a week, supervised, and only for typing class or a computer class...


College computer science prof here: do not give kids Chromebook in elementary school, instead show them how to type and use a desktop properly once a week. Take tablets away! No phone until 8th grade. Using chrome book has little to do with digital literacy. My students have phones and fancy touch screen laptops but they don’t know how to find files in their computers.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2025 00:44     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school

I’m in CA too (Burlingame).

Our middle school uses devices at home and you can borrow a Chromebook if you don’t have devices. Our elementary school uses them in class a lot. Curiously, I learned that another elementary school in our town doesn’t use them at all and tries to avoid screens in class! There are 5 elementary schools and I was surprised it varies.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 19:32     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Google flooded schools with Chromebooks to gain Marketshare from Windows. Enough kids using Chromebooks through school, and needing them for school (completely locked into the google ecosystem) and you'll take a substantial marketshare from Microsoft. Thats the only reason why we have them. There was no study showing how effective they may be, they just hyped everyone up about computers for students and then left us with the problem.
Now that we have been working through this for a couple years, we are seeing how incredibly INEFFECTIVE chromebooks are for learning, and how frankly destructive they are to the learning environment.


The government should really commission a study of socioeconomically comparable schools in which some have chromebooks and others do traditional learning, and look at the effect on learning outcomes.


There aren’t any left that do traditional learning


That's not true. Our kids barely use computers at school.


What school? Please say. I’m looking for a zero tech school.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 18:56     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Google flooded schools with Chromebooks to gain Marketshare from Windows. Enough kids using Chromebooks through school, and needing them for school (completely locked into the google ecosystem) and you'll take a substantial marketshare from Microsoft. Thats the only reason why we have them. There was no study showing how effective they may be, they just hyped everyone up about computers for students and then left us with the problem.
Now that we have been working through this for a couple years, we are seeing how incredibly INEFFECTIVE chromebooks are for learning, and how frankly destructive they are to the learning environment.


The government should really commission a study of socioeconomically comparable schools in which some have chromebooks and others do traditional learning, and look at the effect on learning outcomes.


There aren’t any left that do traditional learning


That's not true. Our kids barely use computers at school.


Name the school. Public or private?
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 18:10     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Google flooded schools with Chromebooks to gain Marketshare from Windows. Enough kids using Chromebooks through school, and needing them for school (completely locked into the google ecosystem) and you'll take a substantial marketshare from Microsoft. Thats the only reason why we have them. There was no study showing how effective they may be, they just hyped everyone up about computers for students and then left us with the problem.
Now that we have been working through this for a couple years, we are seeing how incredibly INEFFECTIVE chromebooks are for learning, and how frankly destructive they are to the learning environment.


The government should really commission a study of socioeconomically comparable schools in which some have chromebooks and others do traditional learning, and look at the effect on learning outcomes.


There aren’t any left that do traditional learning


That's not true. Our kids barely use computers at school.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 16:38     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Google flooded schools with Chromebooks to gain Marketshare from Windows. Enough kids using Chromebooks through school, and needing them for school (completely locked into the google ecosystem) and you'll take a substantial marketshare from Microsoft. Thats the only reason why we have them. There was no study showing how effective they may be, they just hyped everyone up about computers for students and then left us with the problem.
Now that we have been working through this for a couple years, we are seeing how incredibly INEFFECTIVE chromebooks are for learning, and how frankly destructive they are to the learning environment.


The government should really commission a study of socioeconomically comparable schools in which some have chromebooks and others do traditional learning, and look at the effect on learning outcomes.


There aren’t any left that do traditional learning
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 16:00     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school

Anonymous wrote:Google flooded schools with Chromebooks to gain Marketshare from Windows. Enough kids using Chromebooks through school, and needing them for school (completely locked into the google ecosystem) and you'll take a substantial marketshare from Microsoft. Thats the only reason why we have them. There was no study showing how effective they may be, they just hyped everyone up about computers for students and then left us with the problem.
Now that we have been working through this for a couple years, we are seeing how incredibly INEFFECTIVE chromebooks are for learning, and how frankly destructive they are to the learning environment.


The government should really commission a study of socioeconomically comparable schools in which some have chromebooks and others do traditional learning, and look at the effect on learning outcomes.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 13:45     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school

Google flooded schools with Chromebooks to gain Marketshare from Windows. Enough kids using Chromebooks through school, and needing them for school (completely locked into the google ecosystem) and you'll take a substantial marketshare from Microsoft. Thats the only reason why we have them. There was no study showing how effective they may be, they just hyped everyone up about computers for students and then left us with the problem.
Now that we have been working through this for a couple years, we are seeing how incredibly INEFFECTIVE chromebooks are for learning, and how frankly destructive they are to the learning environment.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 12:41     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/12/upshot/teachers-survey-chromebooks-class.html?unlocked_article_code=1.008.BHZg.GObxPaVa49rj&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Article from today


Some of the supposed advantages of these devices don't even make sense. "Students learn to design and present material using their own creativity"? I guess all those dioramas and other projects I did in elementary school were not as creative as using a computer program.

Also, it's telling that Google has a vision of teachers being "facilitators" while students use computers to learn.

And it's total B.S. that the youngest children, who can't yet read or type yet, need to be "exposed" to these devices early because the standardized tests they're going to take in their distant future are going to be given online.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2025 13:09     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school

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Anonymous wrote:What about IXL? Anyone's school uses it? I'm so over it. This is in a Catholic school.



yes. our school is obsessed. give an award to the top leaderboard scores so the kids get more computer time trying to win


One of the parochial schools we considered used it to provide enrichment to more advanced learners. We decided against that school in favor of a school that uses zero EdTech (and I mean absolutely none. It's wonderful!)

IXL actually does publish some math workbooks that are pretty good. Bought one for my daughter and I've been pleased with the quality.


What kind of school is this? There is a Waldorf school that does this in my area but aside from that it doesn’t seem like a great fit for my kid.


St Anselm Abbey School uses zero edtech.