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Anonymous wrote:There’s a lot of studies about religious people’s attraction to authoritarian rule and the gullibility to believe propaganda.

I’d read those studies instead of Wikipedia.

Also read about Ronald Reagan’s presidential campaign, and how they targeted evangelicals.

Also, probably want to learn about the tea party.

This was a long time coming and DT was just the perfect storm.

Religious people are Cray Cray

"Religious people" is extremely overbroad in this context. There is a reason Reagan targeted evangelicals and not "all Christians" or Jews or Buddhists.

I know you are trying to be kind in not targeting all Christians but as a Christian myself, I suggest you view all of us critically.

I can take it. It is better to protect yourself. Too many people are cloaking themselves in this ways that run counter to the actual teachings of Christ,and sadly not Christians have a backbone to call them on it or they ha e no proper news sources.

Either way, they are a potential danger

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Anonymous wrote:The article describes a people who obey the law, cherish and uphold family traditions and values, and who don’t want to put up with bs from lawless, “black sheep of the family” types who cause chaos and trouble.

Much of MAGA stems from this:

Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work...For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving diverse lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another. (Titus 3:1)

When you understand this you will understand MAGA: we love God AND our country. The Democratic party is home base for atheists, queers (black sheep), and communists. MAGA is diametrically opposed to these types of people, hence the divide in our nation: sheep vs goats, God-fearing vs godless: righteous vs unrighteous.

This is not to say MAGA is perfect, for we are human, only that The Bible is our absolute and final authority concerning human origins, proper sexual behavior, and moral conduct.

I will pre-empt those who will say, “Trump did this….said that…”.

Individual candidates do not define a political party’s platform, so sayeth I.

There are certainly candidates who act like Democrats (I always thought Trump a Democrat for the Miss America sleazefest he oversaw), and there are greedy and immoral politicians but on the whole, the R platform is a force for good and best for America.

So, to be clear, you are anti-healthcare and you believe God will take care of your health? So you don’t want healthcare for you or your children? Because that is exactly what you voted for. You voted for more children to die from disease and malnutrition.
Fine- then don’t enter any more hospitals or medical clinics.
If you can be consistent with your views, I can understand and respect. When you waffle, it’s manipulation and not respectable.

Nobody is anti-healthcare but there is a considerable segment of the population who do not want their tax dollars murdering babies in the womb or paying for mentally confused people to get surgery and hormones to better deceive people that they are of the opposite sex.

Healthcare did not go away, nor is it going away because of Trump. Stop being a Democrat shill.

You need to go back to Biology class.

How can you expect people who believe they are feasting on Zombie Jesus every Sunday to understand biology?

DP: You lose credibility and the argument when you go full bigotry like that.

Its a wafer. That's it. To expect others to see more is the problem

Anonymous wrote:This Wikipedia article has the most succinct overview of how MAGAs think.

They exhibit the following traits:

- A high degree of submission to the authorities who are perceived to be established and legitimate in the society in which one lives.

- A general aggressiveness, directed against various persons, that is perceived to be sanctioned by established authorities.

- A high degree of adherence to the social conventions that are perceived to be endorsed by society and its established authorities.


There is much more analysis. It is well worth the read:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_authoritarianism

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Anonymous wrote:I loathe the way MAGA wraps itself in Christianity---it makes me sad and ashamed as a Christian. They are modern-day Pharisees and we know what Christ thought about THEM.

Politicians just know they’re easy to manipulate when they spin everything as religion. Too many Christians don’t realize they’re being used by conmen. Most religions don’t exactly teach people to question authority or think critically. Jesuits and Episcopalians are exceptions.

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Anonymous wrote:The article describes a people who obey the law, cherish and uphold family traditions and values, and who don’t want to put up with bs from lawless, “black sheep of the family” types who cause chaos and trouble.

Much of MAGA stems from this:

Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work...For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving diverse lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another. (Titus 3:1)

When you understand this you will understand MAGA: we love God AND our country. The Democratic party is home base for atheists, queers (black sheep), and communists. MAGA is diametrically opposed to these types of people, hence the divide in our nation: sheep vs goats, God-fearing vs godless: righteous vs unrighteous.

This is not to say MAGA is perfect, for we are human, only that The Bible is our absolute and final authority concerning human origins, proper sexual behavior, and moral conduct.

I will pre-empt those who will say, “Trump did this….said that…”.

Individual candidates do not define a political party’s platform, so sayeth I.

There are certainly candidates who act like Democrats (I always thought Trump a Democrat for the Miss America sleazefest he oversaw), and there are greedy and immoral politicians but on the whole, the R platform is a force for good and best for America.

So, to be clear, you are anti-healthcare and you believe God will take care of your health? So you don’t want healthcare for you or your children? Because that is exactly what you voted for. You voted for more children to die from disease and malnutrition.
Fine- then don’t enter any more hospitals or medical clinics.
If you can be consistent with your views, I can understand and respect. When you waffle, it’s manipulation and not respectable.

Nobody is anti-healthcare but there is a considerable segment of the population who do not want their tax dollars murdering babies in the womb or paying for mentally confused people to get surgery and hormones to better deceive people that they are of the opposite sex.

Healthcare did not go away, nor is it going away because of Trump. Stop being a Democrat shill.

You need to go back to Biology class.

How can you expect people who believe they are feasting on Zombie Jesus every Sunday to understand biology?

DP: You lose credibility and the argument when you go full bigotry like that.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s a lot of studies about religious people’s attraction to authoritarian rule and the gullibility to believe propaganda.

I’d read those studies instead of Wikipedia.

Also read about Ronald Reagan’s presidential campaign, and how they targeted evangelicals.

Also, probably want to learn about the tea party.

This was a long time coming and DT was just the perfect storm.

Religious people are Cray Cray

"Religious people" is extremely overbroad in this context. There is a reason Reagan targeted evangelicals and not "all Christians" or Jews or Buddhists.

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Anonymous wrote:The article describes a people who obey the law, cherish and uphold family traditions and values, and who don’t want to put up with bs from lawless, “black sheep of the family” types who cause chaos and trouble.

Much of MAGA stems from this:

Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work...For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving diverse lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another. (Titus 3:1)

When you understand this you will understand MAGA: we love God AND our country. The Democratic party is home base for atheists, queers (black sheep), and communists. MAGA is diametrically opposed to these types of people, hence the divide in our nation: sheep vs goats, God-fearing vs godless: righteous vs unrighteous.

This is not to say MAGA is perfect, for we are human, only that The Bible is our absolute and final authority concerning human origins, proper sexual behavior, and moral conduct.

I will pre-empt those who will say, “Trump did this….said that…”.

Individual candidates do not define a political party’s platform, so sayeth I.

There are certainly candidates who act like Democrats (I always thought Trump a Democrat for the Miss America sleazefest he oversaw), and there are greedy and immoral politicians but on the whole, the R platform is a force for good and best for America.

So, to be clear, you are anti-healthcare and you believe God will take care of your health? So you don’t want healthcare for you or your children? Because that is exactly what you voted for. You voted for more children to die from disease and malnutrition.
Fine- then don’t enter any more hospitals or medical clinics.
If you can be consistent with your views, I can understand and respect. When you waffle, it’s manipulation and not respectable.

Nobody is anti-healthcare but there is a considerable segment of the population who do not want their tax dollars murdering babies in the womb or paying for mentally confused people to get surgery and hormones to better deceive people that they are of the opposite sex.

Healthcare did not go away, nor is it going away because of Trump. Stop being a Democrat shill.

You need to go back to Biology class.

How can you expect people who believe they are feasting on Zombie Jesus every Sunday to understand biology?

DP: You lose credibility and the argument when you go full bigotry like that.

Anonymous wrote:I loathe the way MAGA wraps itself in Christianity---it makes me sad and ashamed as a Christian. They are modern-day Pharisees and we know what Christ thought about THEM.

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Anonymous wrote:The article describes a people who obey the law, cherish and uphold family traditions and values, and who don’t want to put up with bs from lawless, “black sheep of the family” types who cause chaos and trouble.

Much of MAGA stems from this:

Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work...For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving diverse lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another. (Titus 3:1)

When you understand this you will understand MAGA: we love God AND our country. The Democratic party is home base for atheists, queers (black sheep), and communists. MAGA is diametrically opposed to these types of people, hence the divide in our nation: sheep vs goats, God-fearing vs godless: righteous vs unrighteous.

This is not to say MAGA is perfect, for we are human, only that The Bible is our absolute and final authority concerning human origins, proper sexual behavior, and moral conduct.

I will pre-empt those who will say, “Trump did this….said that…”.

Individual candidates do not define a political party’s platform, so sayeth I.

There are certainly candidates who act like Democrats (I always thought Trump a Democrat for the Miss America sleazefest he oversaw), and there are greedy and immoral politicians but on the whole, the R platform is a force for good and best for America.

I think you might want ti read your Bible a little more carefully. Because loving society's outcasts was Jesus' whole thing. You can't love God, and country, and your family when you reject the very people God instructed you to love, whose laws our country made equal and whose freedoms they meant to protect, people who ARE in fact your family or your neighbors or your community members.

No, it is you who needs to read the Bible and gain understanding, for you are ignorant of the precepts of God.

There is a huge difference between loving sinners (drunks, drug addicts, perverts, homosexuals, liars, and adulterers, etc.), and approving, affirming, condoning, and encouraging them to have pride in their sins, having no need for repentance but just feel like you are a good person then you are good.

Jesus said ”Go, and sin more.”

Christians are to, per Ephesians 5:11

And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

The Republican party is a reproof against the works of darkness and that which brings ruin to our nation.

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Anonymous wrote:The article describes a people who obey the law, cherish and uphold family traditions and values, and who don’t want to put up with bs from lawless, “black sheep of the family” types who cause chaos and trouble.

Much of MAGA stems from this:

Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work...For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving diverse lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another. (Titus 3:1)

When you understand this you will understand MAGA: we love God AND our country. The Democratic party is home base for atheists, queers (black sheep), and communists. MAGA is diametrically opposed to these types of people, hence the divide in our nation: sheep vs goats, God-fearing vs godless: righteous vs unrighteous.

This is not to say MAGA is perfect, for we are human, only that The Bible is our absolute and final authority concerning human origins, proper sexual behavior, and moral conduct.

I will pre-empt those who will say, “Trump did this….said that…”.

Individual candidates do not define a political party’s platform, so sayeth I.

There are certainly candidates who act like Democrats (I always thought Trump a Democrat for the Miss America sleazefest he oversaw), and there are greedy and immoral politicians but on the whole, the R platform is a force for good and best for America.

I think you might want ti read your Bible a little more carefully. Because loving society's outcasts was Jesus' whole thing. You can't love God, and country, and your family when you reject the very people God instructed you to love, whose laws our country made equal and whose freedoms they meant to protect, people who ARE in fact your family or your neighbors or your community members.

Agreed. Jesus was all about mercy. Hate the sin but love and forgive the sinner. Have these so-called Christians never read the story of the Prodigal Son or the Good Samaritan? If you truly follow the teachings of Jesus, you don't get to hate anyone. You don't delight in exacting revenge and you certainly do not vilify and heap further suffering on the poor or the stranger.

Most American Christians are anything but. They are just like the Pharisees.

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Anonymous wrote:The article describes a people who obey the law, cherish and uphold family traditions and values, and who don’t want to put up with bs from lawless, “black sheep of the family” types who cause chaos and trouble.

Much of MAGA stems from this:

Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work...For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving diverse lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another. (Titus 3:1)

When you understand this you will understand MAGA: we love God AND our country. The Democratic party is home base for atheists, queers (black sheep), and communists. MAGA is diametrically opposed to these types of people, hence the divide in our nation: sheep vs goats, God-fearing vs godless: righteous vs unrighteous.

This is not to say MAGA is perfect, for we are human, only that The Bible is our absolute and final authority concerning human origins, proper sexual behavior, and moral conduct.

I will pre-empt those who will say, “Trump did this….said that…”.

Individual candidates do not define a political party’s platform, so sayeth I.

There are certainly candidates who act like Democrats (I always thought Trump a Democrat for the Miss America sleazefest he oversaw), and there are greedy and immoral politicians but on the whole, the R platform is a force for good and best for America.

So, to be clear, you are anti-healthcare and you believe God will take care of your health? So you don’t want healthcare for you or your children? Because that is exactly what you voted for. You voted for more children to die from disease and malnutrition.
Fine- then don’t enter any more hospitals or medical clinics.
If you can be consistent with your views, I can understand and respect. When you waffle, it’s manipulation and not respectable.

Nobody is anti-healthcare but there is a considerable segment of the population who do not want their tax dollars murdering babies in the womb or paying for mentally confused people to get surgery and hormones to better deceive people that they are of the opposite sex.

Healthcare did not go away, nor is it going away because of Trump. Stop being a Democrat shill.

You need to go back to Biology class.

How can you expect people who believe they are feasting on Zombie Jesus every Sunday to understand biology?

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Anonymous wrote:It all stems from abortion. I truly believe that.

A conversation with a fellow liberal made me think. He said that if the left had someone like Trump, they would get the same kind of following. Of course I was appalled and disagreed. But then he said, “Think about it. What if someone came along who would and could massively reduce gun violence, secure our reproductive rights, and even say the quiet parts out loud to the entire world.” I pointed out that reducing gun violence would save so many lives, and so would reproductive rights. And he pointed out that this is how they feel about abortions. They believe every abortion is murdering a baby. If you believed that, is there anything that would be more important to you? It made me think. I have to admit that I would probably be willing to put up with and justify a lot from someone who could accomplish those things.

I am NOT trying to make excuses or justify maga. I am still disgusted, disappointed, and confused by their loyalty to Trump. But it did give me a slightly different perspective.

You almost got it. Anti-abortion was a niche Catholic idea until republicans created it as a wedge issue and ran a campaign to brainwash a generation of scientifically illiterate people to believe abortion is murder, so they would turn off their brains completely regarding every other issue. It was a scam from the start.

Anonymous wrote:There’s a lot of studies about religious people’s attraction to authoritarian rule and the gullibility to believe propaganda.

I’d read those studies instead of Wikipedia.

Also read about Ronald Reagan’s presidential campaign, and how they targeted evangelicals.

Also, probably want to learn about the tea party.

This was a long time coming and DT was just the perfect storm.

Religious people are Cray Cray

Anonymous wrote:I loathe the way MAGA wraps itself in Christianity---it makes me sad and ashamed as a Christian. They are modern-day Pharisees and we know what Christ thought about THEM.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so glad Trump waited until he had one foot in the grave to enter politics. If he started in his 40s, he would 100% be America’s hitler.

I can't believe you people

Or Vance?