Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....
There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.
Other cities have gotten rid of traffic cameras because the burden falls so much more heavily on low income Black people than everyone else.
What else do you propose? Or is it OK according to you that the burden of traffic fatalities fall so much more heavily on low income Black people than everyone else?
Er, well, traffic fatalities in DC are rare, and there's no evidence that the government's policies have any bearing on the frequency of them. You're basically forcing people to buy a very expensive insurance policy that doesn't even do what you said it would do.
They are not rare. And there is plenty of evidence that various policies can reduce the frequency of traffic fatalities. Do I need to show you how to search for information on the internet? Or do you have a special search engine that filters out all evidence that might call into question certain crazy assumptions that apparently inform your world view?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....
There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.
Other cities have gotten rid of traffic cameras because the burden falls so much more heavily on low income Black people than everyone else.
What else do you propose? Or is it OK according to you that the burden of traffic fatalities fall so much more heavily on low income Black people than everyone else?
Er, well, traffic fatalities in DC are rare, and there's no evidence that the government's policies have any bearing on the frequency of them. You're basically forcing people to buy a very expensive insurance policy that doesn't even do what you said it would do.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....
There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.
Other cities have gotten rid of traffic cameras because the burden falls so much more heavily on low income Black people than everyone else.
What else do you propose? Or is it OK according to you that the burden of traffic fatalities fall so much more heavily on low income Black people than everyone else?
Er, well, traffic fatalities in DC are rare, and there's no evidence that the government's policies have any bearing on the frequency of them. You're basically forcing people to buy a very expensive insurance policy that doesn't even do what you said it would do.
Anonymous wrote:I speed a lot on DC roads — the speed limits have been lowered so much over the past few years to really dumb levels. Never gotten a ticket. I mean, how hard is it to learn where the cameras are and just slow down in those specific locations? The number of tickets just shows how dumb people are because they don’t want to spend any brainpower figuring out how where the cameras are. It’s really a stupidity tax.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....
There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.
Other cities have gotten rid of traffic cameras because the burden falls so much more heavily on low income Black people than everyone else.
What else do you propose? Or is it OK according to you that the burden of traffic fatalities fall so much more heavily on low income Black people than everyone else?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The number almost doubled from the year before. DC now issues 8 times as many tickets each year as it did a decade ago. We issue twice as many tickets as Chicago, which is SO MUCH BIGGER! Pretty insane.
Hard to see what difference it's made to safety. Here's how many people the police say were killed each year in DC by speeding drivers:
2023: 22
2022: 9
2021: 12
2020: 15
2019: 10
2018: 9
2017: 12
2016: 8
2015: 11
2014: 12
2013: 11
Not really seeing a pattern.
It's striking how speeding deaths don't really change regardless of what the city does.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....
There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.
Other cities have gotten rid of traffic cameras because the burden falls so much more heavily on low income Black people than everyone else.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....
There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....
There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.
That's because it's more crowded and more people speed there.
I can tell you that there is a speed camera on the section of Eastern Avenue I live near that has made a huge difference in my family's safety when we turn out of our neighborhood onto Eastern Avenue. Additionally, it's possible to cross the street out of our residential neighborhood and walk to our closest grocery store far more safely than before the speed camera. I'm grateful for it.
A quick glance at the data will show that road fatalities are much higher EOTR. The city responds to this by placing speed cameras EOTR. Is this racist or is it racist to not doing anything about the road fatalities?
The underlying problem is that road designs EOTR (and in poorer neighborhoods in general) are generally more conducive to speeding than in richer neighborhoods like Ward 3. The best way to reduce road fatalities EOTR is to fix that underlying problem.
But then you have Trayon refusing to allow bike lanes - the cheapest "traffic calming' measure - in his ward. So around we go.
I agree with you, but the city really bungled the communications on this. They kept saying the bike lanes were for bikes. And residents are quite understandably opposed when they hear about bike lanes and they know there’s almost no bike traffic. And the bikes go wherever they want anyway. They should have emphasized speed reduction from the start, and they would need to make a clear and compelling case that it would do any more than be a PITA for the people who are responsible drivers just trying to get around. Which idk if that case can be made, I hope it can, I have never seen it.
Bike lanes are stressful for drivers. The benefits as far as traffic calming and sometimes bikes might be worth it, but it’s not an obvious sell and proponents have done a bad job explaining it.
Anonymous wrote:The number almost doubled from the year before. DC now issues 8 times as many tickets each year as it did a decade ago. We issue twice as many tickets as Chicago, which is SO MUCH BIGGER! Pretty insane.
Hard to see what difference it's made to safety. Here's how many people the police say were killed each year in DC by speeding drivers:
2023: 22
2022: 9
2021: 12
2020: 15
2019: 10
2018: 9
2017: 12
2016: 8
2015: 11
2014: 12
2013: 11
Not really seeing a pattern.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did you know there's almost no stop sign cameras west of the park? I wonder how that happens....
There's 17 speed cameras in Ward 3. In Ward 7, there's almost 60.
That's because it's more crowded and more people speed there.
I can tell you that there is a speed camera on the section of Eastern Avenue I live near that has made a huge difference in my family's safety when we turn out of our neighborhood onto Eastern Avenue. Additionally, it's possible to cross the street out of our residential neighborhood and walk to our closest grocery store far more safely than before the speed camera. I'm grateful for it.
A quick glance at the data will show that road fatalities are much higher EOTR. The city responds to this by placing speed cameras EOTR. Is this racist or is it racist to not doing anything about the road fatalities?
The underlying problem is that road designs EOTR (and in poorer neighborhoods in general) are generally more conducive to speeding than in richer neighborhoods like Ward 3. The best way to reduce road fatalities EOTR is to fix that underlying problem.
But then you have Trayon refusing to allow bike lanes - the cheapest "traffic calming' measure - in his ward. So around we go.