Anonymous wrote:In reference to the maps Thru put out (not rumors about Sandy Anderson's preferences), is the main complaint in the WSHS boundary area that Hunt Valley was made a split feeder?

Because I actually think that what I saw on the Thru maps for WSHS made sense. It does stink to become a 50/50 split feeder at Hunt Valley, but it also does fix the over crowding at WSHS and puts those kids at South County which makes geographical sense. I'm not sure it's possible for WSHS to keep only whole elementary schools and have reasonable capacity. I think moving the Hunt Valley kids to SoCo makes sense. The board was pretty clear that they are ok with half/half split feeders but just wanted to avoid situations where less than 15% of the student population goes to a different school. Understandable.

I also thought the small move they made for Rolling Valley (moving the kids that currently do RVES/Key/Lewis to Saratoga/Key/Lewis) makes sense. And opens up some space at RVES down the road if other elementaries like Orange Hunt and Cardinal Forest are overcrowded.

So if the Thru changes are the answer for WSHS, are people generally ok with that?

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Anonymous wrote:it just makes sense to send all of HV to lewis. not complicated at all.

It really doesn’t.

There's not enough space at Key or Lewis for 500+ additional kids.

Anonymous wrote:In reference to the maps Thru put out (not rumors about Sandy Anderson's preferences), is the main complaint in the WSHS boundary area that Hunt Valley was made a split feeder?

Because I actually think that what I saw on the Thru maps for WSHS made sense. It does stink to become a 50/50 split feeder at Hunt Valley, but it also does fix the over crowding at WSHS and puts those kids at South County which makes geographical sense. I'm not sure it's possible for WSHS to keep only whole elementary schools and have reasonable capacity. I think moving the Hunt Valley kids to SoCo makes sense. The board was pretty clear that they are ok with half/half split feeders but just wanted to avoid situations where less than 15% of the student population goes to a different school. Understandable.

I also thought the small move they made for Rolling Valley (moving the kids that currently do RVES/Key/Lewis to Saratoga/Key/Lewis) makes sense. And opens up some space at RVES down the road if other elementaries like Orange Hunt and Cardinal Forest are overcrowded.

So if the Thru changes are the answer for WSHS, are people generally ok with that?

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Anonymous wrote:it just makes sense to send all of HV to lewis. not complicated at all.

It really doesn’t.

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Anonymous wrote:It was Crestwood.

Listening on line and the Board seems to not know what is going on or even to have any power. The consultants appear to be running the show.

That’s shocking. That wasn’t on any of the maps and they are pretty close to Lewis (well, all of Lewis’s boundaries are fairly close except perhaps the furthest ends of Saratoga).

Do we think this is some kind of move of Crestwood to WSHS and Hunt Valley to Lewis?

makes sense. HV is 200 more students than crestwood. so that adds students to Lewis which is underenrolled and reduces WSHS by 200 which is overenrolled. crestwood is also 50% FARMs and ESL while HV is like 10%. this helps with equitable outcomes between the schools.

It actually doesn't make sense (and I'm not a Hunt Valley parent). WSHS is about 400-500 students overenrolled. They could move all of Hunt Valley and only just bring WSHS down to capacity. It wouldn't "make room" for Crestwood and RVES students. Likely adding those would easily keep it at it's super high numbers and completely defeat the point of trying to address over-crowding at WSHS. As we saw when the Daventry parents convinced the district to move from WSES/Key/Lewis to WSES/Irving/WSHS back in the early 2000s, those townhomes that used to have a small number of families at Lewis BALLOONED to adding a ton to WSHS. Everyone with kids who used to move or do private when they got to middle and high school stayed and went to WSHS. The same would happen with the "small" amount of kids that split off from Rolling Valley and likely the Crestwood community.

There should not be ONE SINGLE HOUSEHOLD added to WSHS boundaries. Not one. And I think there should be some adjustments made to alleviate the overcrowding. Like Sangster to LBSS and possibly some of the HV communities south of the parkway moving to South County.

Adding ANY students to WSHS is ridiculous and I hope it is not the plan.

yeah maybe just adding HV to lewis is all that is needed to balance the schools.

Kernel Mill is actually the most logical choice to move to Lewis.

They are the closest WSHS neighborhood to Lewis, closer than even Daventry.

And size wise, once you remove the AAP kids from other pyramids like Lake Braddock, they are the perfect size to bring Lewis to full capacity. Hunt Valley is much bigger that Keene Mill, and has way more students than Lewis can absorb. You can look at the school profiles to see this.

Keene Mill is walking distance to Irving and biking distance to WSHS. Doesn’t make much sense.

Amanda the closest neighborhood to Lewis of all the WSHS elementary schools.

Funny because Keene Mill is also closer to both WSHS and Lake Braddock than it is Lewis. It is the most diverse elementary school in the WSHS pyramid and kids from Keene Mill are walkers to Keene Mill, Irving and WSHS. I don’t think moving it will help meet their stated goals.

Hunt Valley is also closer to WSHS than Lewis. If they want to fix Lewis’s population issue, they need to fix the IB versus AP problem. It’s not about moving more neighborhoods into the school boundary. If they move Hunt Valley to South County then there’s overcrowding at South County because a lot of kids from Lewis pupil place there or LBSS for AP. Fixing the AP issue at Lewis is a great start to fixing these other cascading issues.

I have come around to thinking that they really are trying to alleviate crowding at WSHS, not simply to prop up Lewis, especially after the first round of maps came out and no one was moved to Lewis from WSHS. WSHS IS crowded and it would be good to have that relieved. But of course no one wants to be the one to leave, which I understand. We are on a border of the WSHS boundary as well, so I get the fear.

Then move Daventry back to Lewis. That’s what helped create the overcrowding. Last in, first out.

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Anonymous wrote:It was Crestwood.

Listening on line and the Board seems to not know what is going on or even to have any power. The consultants appear to be running the show.

That’s shocking. That wasn’t on any of the maps and they are pretty close to Lewis (well, all of Lewis’s boundaries are fairly close except perhaps the furthest ends of Saratoga).

Do we think this is some kind of move of Crestwood to WSHS and Hunt Valley to Lewis?

makes sense. HV is 200 more students than crestwood. so that adds students to Lewis which is underenrolled and reduces WSHS by 200 which is overenrolled. crestwood is also 50% FARMs and ESL while HV is like 10%. this helps with equitable outcomes between the schools.

It actually doesn't make sense (and I'm not a Hunt Valley parent). WSHS is about 400-500 students overenrolled. They could move all of Hunt Valley and only just bring WSHS down to capacity. It wouldn't "make room" for Crestwood and RVES students. Likely adding those would easily keep it at it's super high numbers and completely defeat the point of trying to address over-crowding at WSHS. As we saw when the Daventry parents convinced the district to move from WSES/Key/Lewis to WSES/Irving/WSHS back in the early 2000s, those townhomes that used to have a small number of families at Lewis BALLOONED to adding a ton to WSHS. Everyone with kids who used to move or do private when they got to middle and high school stayed and went to WSHS. The same would happen with the "small" amount of kids that split off from Rolling Valley and likely the Crestwood community.

There should not be ONE SINGLE HOUSEHOLD added to WSHS boundaries. Not one. And I think there should be some adjustments made to alleviate the overcrowding. Like Sangster to LBSS and possibly some of the HV communities south of the parkway moving to South County.

Adding ANY students to WSHS is ridiculous and I hope it is not the plan.

yeah maybe just adding HV to lewis is all that is needed to balance the schools.

Kernel Mill is actually the most logical choice to move to Lewis.

They are the closest WSHS neighborhood to Lewis, closer than even Daventry.

And size wise, once you remove the AAP kids from other pyramids like Lake Braddock, they are the perfect size to bring Lewis to full capacity. Hunt Valley is much bigger that Keene Mill, and has way more students than Lewis can absorb. You can look at the school profiles to see this.

Keene Mill is walking distance to Irving and biking distance to WSHS. Doesn’t make much sense.

Amanda the closest neighborhood to Lewis of all the WSHS elementary schools.

Funny because Keene Mill is also closer to both WSHS and Lake Braddock than it is Lewis. It is the most diverse elementary school in the WSHS pyramid and kids from Keene Mill are walkers to Keene Mill, Irving and WSHS. I don’t think moving it will help meet their stated goals.

Hunt Valley is also closer to WSHS than Lewis. If they want to fix Lewis’s population issue, they need to fix the IB versus AP problem. It’s not about moving more neighborhoods into the school boundary. If they move Hunt Valley to South County then there’s overcrowding at South County because a lot of kids from Lewis pupil place there or LBSS for AP. Fixing the AP issue at Lewis is a great start to fixing these other cascading issues.

I have come around to thinking that they really are trying to alleviate crowding at WSHS, not simply to prop up Lewis, especially after the first round of maps came out and no one was moved to Lewis from WSHS. WSHS IS crowded and it would be good to have that relieved. But of course no one wants to be the one to leave, which I understand. We are on a border of the WSHS boundary as well, so I get the fear.

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Anonymous wrote:It was Crestwood.

Listening on line and the Board seems to not know what is going on or even to have any power. The consultants appear to be running the show.

That’s shocking. That wasn’t on any of the maps and they are pretty close to Lewis (well, all of Lewis’s boundaries are fairly close except perhaps the furthest ends of Saratoga).

Do we think this is some kind of move of Crestwood to WSHS and Hunt Valley to Lewis?

makes sense. HV is 200 more students than crestwood. so that adds students to Lewis which is underenrolled and reduces WSHS by 200 which is overenrolled. crestwood is also 50% FARMs and ESL while HV is like 10%. this helps with equitable outcomes between the schools.

It actually doesn't make sense (and I'm not a Hunt Valley parent). WSHS is about 400-500 students overenrolled. They could move all of Hunt Valley and only just bring WSHS down to capacity. It wouldn't "make room" for Crestwood and RVES students. Likely adding those would easily keep it at it's super high numbers and completely defeat the point of trying to address over-crowding at WSHS. As we saw when the Daventry parents convinced the district to move from WSES/Key/Lewis to WSES/Irving/WSHS back in the early 2000s, those townhomes that used to have a small number of families at Lewis BALLOONED to adding a ton to WSHS. Everyone with kids who used to move or do private when they got to middle and high school stayed and went to WSHS. The same would happen with the "small" amount of kids that split off from Rolling Valley and likely the Crestwood community.

There should not be ONE SINGLE HOUSEHOLD added to WSHS boundaries. Not one. And I think there should be some adjustments made to alleviate the overcrowding. Like Sangster to LBSS and possibly some of the HV communities south of the parkway moving to South County.

Adding ANY students to WSHS is ridiculous and I hope it is not the plan.

yeah maybe just adding HV to lewis is all that is needed to balance the schools.

Kernel Mill is actually the most logical choice to move to Lewis.

They are the closest WSHS neighborhood to Lewis, closer than even Daventry.

And size wise, once you remove the AAP kids from other pyramids like Lake Braddock, they are the perfect size to bring Lewis to full capacity. Hunt Valley is much bigger that Keene Mill, and has way more students than Lewis can absorb. You can look at the school profiles to see this.

Keene Mill is walking distance to Irving and biking distance to WSHS. Doesn’t make much sense.

Amanda the closest neighborhood to Lewis of all the WSHS elementary schools.

Funny because Keene Mill is also closer to both WSHS and Lake Braddock than it is Lewis. It is the most diverse elementary school in the WSHS pyramid and kids from Keene Mill are walkers to Keene Mill, Irving and WSHS. I don’t think moving it will help meet their stated goals.

Hunt Valley is also closer to WSHS than Lewis. If they want to fix Lewis’s population issue, they need to fix the IB versus AP problem. It’s not about moving more neighborhoods into the school boundary. If they move Hunt Valley to South County then there’s overcrowding at South County because a lot of kids from Lewis pupil place there or LBSS for AP. Fixing the AP issue at Lewis is a great start to fixing these other cascading issues.

I have come around to thinking that they really are trying to alleviate crowding at WSHS, not simply to prop up Lewis, especially after the first round of maps came out and no one was moved to Lewis from WSHS. WSHS IS crowded and it would be good to have that relieved. But of course no one wants to be the one to leave, which I understand. We are on a border of the WSHS boundary as well, so I get the fear.

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Anonymous wrote:It was Crestwood.

Listening on line and the Board seems to not know what is going on or even to have any power. The consultants appear to be running the show.

That’s shocking. That wasn’t on any of the maps and they are pretty close to Lewis (well, all of Lewis’s boundaries are fairly close except perhaps the furthest ends of Saratoga).

Do we think this is some kind of move of Crestwood to WSHS and Hunt Valley to Lewis?

makes sense. HV is 200 more students than crestwood. so that adds students to Lewis which is underenrolled and reduces WSHS by 200 which is overenrolled. crestwood is also 50% FARMs and ESL while HV is like 10%. this helps with equitable outcomes between the schools.

It actually doesn't make sense (and I'm not a Hunt Valley parent). WSHS is about 400-500 students overenrolled. They could move all of Hunt Valley and only just bring WSHS down to capacity. It wouldn't "make room" for Crestwood and RVES students. Likely adding those would easily keep it at it's super high numbers and completely defeat the point of trying to address over-crowding at WSHS. As we saw when the Daventry parents convinced the district to move from WSES/Key/Lewis to WSES/Irving/WSHS back in the early 2000s, those townhomes that used to have a small number of families at Lewis BALLOONED to adding a ton to WSHS. Everyone with kids who used to move or do private when they got to middle and high school stayed and went to WSHS. The same would happen with the "small" amount of kids that split off from Rolling Valley and likely the Crestwood community.

There should not be ONE SINGLE HOUSEHOLD added to WSHS boundaries. Not one. And I think there should be some adjustments made to alleviate the overcrowding. Like Sangster to LBSS and possibly some of the HV communities south of the parkway moving to South County.

Adding ANY students to WSHS is ridiculous and I hope it is not the plan.

yeah maybe just adding HV to lewis is all that is needed to balance the schools.

Kernel Mill is actually the most logical choice to move to Lewis.

They are the closest WSHS neighborhood to Lewis, closer than even Daventry.

And size wise, once you remove the AAP kids from other pyramids like Lake Braddock, they are the perfect size to bring Lewis to full capacity. Hunt Valley is much bigger that Keene Mill, and has way more students than Lewis can absorb. You can look at the school profiles to see this.

Keene Mill is walking distance to Irving and biking distance to WSHS. Doesn’t make much sense.

Amanda the closest neighborhood to Lewis of all the WSHS elementary schools.

Funny because Keene Mill is also closer to both WSHS and Lake Braddock than it is Lewis. It is the most diverse elementary school in the WSHS pyramid and kids from Keene Mill are walkers to Keene Mill, Irving and WSHS. I don’t think moving it will help meet their stated goals.

Hunt Valley is also closer to WSHS than Lewis. If they want to fix Lewis’s population issue, they need to fix the IB versus AP problem. It’s not about moving more neighborhoods into the school boundary. If they move Hunt Valley to South County then there’s overcrowding at South County because a lot of kids from Lewis pupil place there or LBSS for AP. Fixing the AP issue at Lewis is a great start to fixing these other cascading issues.

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Anonymous wrote:It was Crestwood.

Listening on line and the Board seems to not know what is going on or even to have any power. The consultants appear to be running the show.

That’s shocking. That wasn’t on any of the maps and they are pretty close to Lewis (well, all of Lewis’s boundaries are fairly close except perhaps the furthest ends of Saratoga).

Do we think this is some kind of move of Crestwood to WSHS and Hunt Valley to Lewis?

makes sense. HV is 200 more students than crestwood. so that adds students to Lewis which is underenrolled and reduces WSHS by 200 which is overenrolled. crestwood is also 50% FARMs and ESL while HV is like 10%. this helps with equitable outcomes between the schools.

It actually doesn't make sense (and I'm not a Hunt Valley parent). WSHS is about 400-500 students overenrolled. They could move all of Hunt Valley and only just bring WSHS down to capacity. It wouldn't "make room" for Crestwood and RVES students. Likely adding those would easily keep it at it's super high numbers and completely defeat the point of trying to address over-crowding at WSHS. As we saw when the Daventry parents convinced the district to move from WSES/Key/Lewis to WSES/Irving/WSHS back in the early 2000s, those townhomes that used to have a small number of families at Lewis BALLOONED to adding a ton to WSHS. Everyone with kids who used to move or do private when they got to middle and high school stayed and went to WSHS. The same would happen with the "small" amount of kids that split off from Rolling Valley and likely the Crestwood community.

There should not be ONE SINGLE HOUSEHOLD added to WSHS boundaries. Not one. And I think there should be some adjustments made to alleviate the overcrowding. Like Sangster to LBSS and possibly some of the HV communities south of the parkway moving to South County.

Adding ANY students to WSHS is ridiculous and I hope it is not the plan.

yeah maybe just adding HV to lewis is all that is needed to balance the schools.

Kernel Mill is actually the most logical choice to move to Lewis.

They are the closest WSHS neighborhood to Lewis, closer than even Daventry.

And size wise, once you remove the AAP kids from other pyramids like Lake Braddock, they are the perfect size to bring Lewis to full capacity. Hunt Valley is much bigger that Keene Mill, and has way more students than Lewis can absorb. You can look at the school profiles to see this.

Keene Mill is walking distance to Irving and biking distance to WSHS. Doesn’t make much sense.

Amanda the closest neighborhood to Lewis of all the WSHS elementary schools.

Funny because Keene Mill is also closer to both WSHS and Lake Braddock than it is Lewis. It is the most diverse elementary school in the WSHS pyramid and kids from Keene Mill are walkers to Keene Mill, Irving and WSHS. I don’t think moving it will help meet their stated goals.

Hunt Valley is also closer to WSHS than Lewis. If they want to fix Lewis’s population issue, they need to fix the IB versus AP problem. It’s not about moving more neighborhoods into the school boundary. If they move Hunt Valley to South County then there’s overcrowding at South County because a lot of kids from Lewis pupil place there or LBSS for AP. Fixing the AP issue at Lewis is a great start to fixing these other cascading issues.

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Anonymous wrote:It was Crestwood.

Listening on line and the Board seems to not know what is going on or even to have any power. The consultants appear to be running the show.

That’s shocking. That wasn’t on any of the maps and they are pretty close to Lewis (well, all of Lewis’s boundaries are fairly close except perhaps the furthest ends of Saratoga).

Do we think this is some kind of move of Crestwood to WSHS and Hunt Valley to Lewis?

makes sense. HV is 200 more students than crestwood. so that adds students to Lewis which is underenrolled and reduces WSHS by 200 which is overenrolled. crestwood is also 50% FARMs and ESL while HV is like 10%. this helps with equitable outcomes between the schools.

It actually doesn't make sense (and I'm not a Hunt Valley parent). WSHS is about 400-500 students overenrolled. They could move all of Hunt Valley and only just bring WSHS down to capacity. It wouldn't "make room" for Crestwood and RVES students. Likely adding those would easily keep it at it's super high numbers and completely defeat the point of trying to address over-crowding at WSHS. As we saw when the Daventry parents convinced the district to move from WSES/Key/Lewis to WSES/Irving/WSHS back in the early 2000s, those townhomes that used to have a small number of families at Lewis BALLOONED to adding a ton to WSHS. Everyone with kids who used to move or do private when they got to middle and high school stayed and went to WSHS. The same would happen with the "small" amount of kids that split off from Rolling Valley and likely the Crestwood community.

There should not be ONE SINGLE HOUSEHOLD added to WSHS boundaries. Not one. And I think there should be some adjustments made to alleviate the overcrowding. Like Sangster to LBSS and possibly some of the HV communities south of the parkway moving to South County.

Adding ANY students to WSHS is ridiculous and I hope it is not the plan.

yeah maybe just adding HV to lewis is all that is needed to balance the schools.

Kernel Mill is actually the most logical choice to move to Lewis.

They are the closest WSHS neighborhood to Lewis, closer than even Daventry.

And size wise, once you remove the AAP kids from other pyramids like Lake Braddock, they are the perfect size to bring Lewis to full capacity. Hunt Valley is much bigger that Keene Mill, and has way more students than Lewis can absorb. You can look at the school profiles to see this.

Keene Mill is walking distance to Irving and biking distance to WSHS. Doesn’t make much sense.

Amanda the closest neighborhood to Lewis of all the WSHS elementary schools.

Funny because Keene Mill is also closer to both WSHS and Lake Braddock than it is Lewis. It is the most diverse elementary school in the WSHS pyramid and kids from Keene Mill are walkers to Keene Mill, Irving and WSHS. I don’t think moving it will help meet their stated goals.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain the process if Sizemore- Rachna or Moon becomes the Braddock district representative. Does that mean we in the Braddock district will be left without representation during the vote for the boundary change?
When is the date that Rachna would start and when is the boundary change going to be voted on?
Is there a possibility we don’t have a school board member for this vote?

It doesn’t really matter. It is just an echo chamber. Whoever gets that spot will be a clone of the rest and will go along with the program.
Yes, it’s possible that the Braddock seat on the School Board will be vacant when the SB votes on boundary changes. It all depends on the timing of the special election to fill Walkinshaw’s seat on the BOS (perhaps this December) and then, if Rachna or Moon wins, the timing of a special election to fill a vacant School Board seat.

They would say you’re still represented by the at-large SB members even if the Braddock District seat is vacant for a while.