Anonymous
Post 09/16/2025 13:02     Subject: I’ve never had a therapist that helped me with much

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Anonymous wrote:Do you have borderline personality disorder?


No, I don’t think so. Although I think I have several symptoms - primarily intense anger at times that feels inappropriate.


Underneath that anger is a set of core beliefs that need unpacking. Usually a core fear of not being good enough.

And it’s possible that therapy can makes things temporarily worse before they are better. Think of wound that’s healed badly and inhibiting your ability to use a limb. To fix the wound you have to go in and remove the scar tissue, which will make the wound more sensitive for a time while it heals properly.



I’ve stuck with therapists for years with little improvement


Wrong therapists then.

I am training to be a therapist and I get it. I’ve had many bad ones but the good ones are great.


Seems like you are fairly biased, no? Since this is how you will make $


DP here, who also trained to be a therapist. I spent two years in grad school, 4.0 GPA (which was shockingly easy to attain, compared to my engineering undergrad), completed 3 internships with glowing reviews, and was 95% done with the program. However, a little reading is a dangerous thing. I read the text books, but I also read lots of unassigned journal articles on psychotherapy research, on bioethics, and related topics.

Finally I had to admit that there was nothing behind the curtain. Sure, people are helped by a sympathetic ear. Until 100 years ago, that kind of person was called a "friend" in English. Probably similar terms in other languages, I can't help but guess. For spiritual issues, someone could go to a priest, minister, rabbi, imam, etc. For medical issues, someone could go to a medical doctor. You get the idea.

The difference between me and a lot of the other students is that I had an existing low six-figure career I could return to. For a lot of them it was either finish this or work at Whole Foods. And for some, it was finish the program AND work at Whole Foods.

Of the people I saw in internships, 70% just needed to speak honestly with a friend, 20% needed to talk to a spiritual advisor, and 10% needed a physician.


Bravo!

Mike-drop post.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2025 13:01     Subject: I’ve never had a therapist that helped me with much

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:How hard do you actually work on yourself and the issues the therapists bring up. A couple bad therapists is one thing. Multiple therapists and none helping usually means the problem lies with you.


Therapists don't actually do anything. It isn't surprising that they aren't going to help.


My therapist helped me when I wanted to end my life.


A stranger on the bridge would have helped. Some people just love to trauma dump, and therapists are there to take your whining and your money. If you have decent relationships, you don't need to pay someone to listen to you.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2025 12:53     Subject: I’ve never had a therapist that helped me with much

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you have borderline personality disorder?


No, I don’t think so. Although I think I have several symptoms - primarily intense anger at times that feels inappropriate.


Underneath that anger is a set of core beliefs that need unpacking. Usually a core fear of not being good enough.

And it’s possible that therapy can makes things temporarily worse before they are better. Think of wound that’s healed badly and inhibiting your ability to use a limb. To fix the wound you have to go in and remove the scar tissue, which will make the wound more sensitive for a time while it heals properly.



I’ve stuck with therapists for years with little improvement


Wrong therapists then.

I am training to be a therapist and I get it. I’ve had many bad ones but the good ones are great.


Seems like you are fairly biased, no? Since this is how you will make $


DP here, who also trained to be a therapist. I spent two years in grad school, 4.0 GPA (which was shockingly easy to attain, compared to my engineering undergrad), completed 3 internships with glowing reviews, and was 95% done with the program. However, a little reading is a dangerous thing. I read the text books, but I also read lots of unassigned journal articles on psychotherapy research, on bioethics, and related topics.

Finally I had to admit that there was nothing behind the curtain. Sure, people are helped by a sympathetic ear. Until 100 years ago, that kind of person was called a "friend" in English. Probably similar terms in other languages, I can't help but guess. For spiritual issues, someone could go to a priest, minister, rabbi, imam, etc. For medical issues, someone could go to a medical doctor. You get the idea.

The difference between me and a lot of the other students is that I had an existing low six-figure career I could return to. For a lot of them it was either finish this or work at Whole Foods. And for some, it was finish the program AND work at Whole Foods.

Of the people I saw in internships, 70% just needed to speak honestly with a friend, 20% needed to talk to a spiritual advisor, and 10% needed a physician.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2025 12:38     Subject: I’ve never had a therapist that helped me with much

Anonymous wrote:I’ve had individual therapy and couples therapy and tried different types of therapies.

What am I doing wrong? Am I just too messed up to help?

My issues are generalized anxiety, social anxiety and anger issues.



Same.

It only caused more harm and damage than it helped.

Plus it cost a ton of money.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2025 12:16     Subject: I’ve never had a therapist that helped me with much

They should be giving you little new habits or things to do each month as work, and you need to ACTuALLY DO THEM!
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2025 12:15     Subject: I’ve never had a therapist that helped me with much

Use phd psychologist therapists in specialties that match your Dx.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2025 12:15     Subject: I’ve never had a therapist that helped me with much

Anonymous wrote:I’ve had individual therapy and couples therapy and tried different types of therapies.

What am I doing wrong? Am I just too messed up to help?

My issues are generalized anxiety, social anxiety and anger issues.


Start with a neuropsych test for you or whomever you live with who suspect has a disorder. Then do targeted therapy for any Dx there.

Anxiety and depression can be common acute things. But if chronic there is usually an underlying primary DSM diagnosis to find.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2025 12:10     Subject: I’ve never had a therapist that helped me with much

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How hard do you actually work on yourself and the issues the therapists bring up. A couple bad therapists is one thing. Multiple therapists and none helping usually means the problem lies with you.


Therapists don't actually do anything. It isn't surprising that they aren't going to help.


My therapist helped me when I wanted to end my life.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2025 12:07     Subject: I’ve never had a therapist that helped me with much

Anonymous wrote:therapy doesn't help anything. It's a scam.


Oh and of course if you say it didn’t help, it’s your fault and you weren’t open to it. Or you just didn’t find the right therapist. Again, the fault of the patient and too bad they spent thousands on a useless service
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2025 12:06     Subject: I’ve never had a therapist that helped me with much

Anonymous wrote:therapy doesn't help anything. It's a scam.


I just think therapists have no accountability whatsoever and the impetus to keep delivering ‘services’ without any benefit is too great for 99.99 percent of them. I know everyone hates insurance companies but at least they try to keep therapy on track somewhat. Otherwise pretty much every therapist I know will be more than happy to keep seeing a patient for year after year.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2025 12:00     Subject: I’ve never had a therapist that helped me with much

therapy doesn't help anything. It's a scam.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2025 10:52     Subject: I’ve never had a therapist that helped me with much

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How hard do you actually work on yourself and the issues the therapists bring up. A couple bad therapists is one thing. Multiple therapists and none helping usually means the problem lies with you.


Therapists don't actually do anything. It isn't surprising that they aren't going to help.


Well I had a therapist who was quite helpful so there are some good ones out there.
Same here


My work with my therapist was life saving as changing for me and I dare say my kids lives too regarding how I parent


Hi therapist!
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2025 09:53     Subject: I’ve never had a therapist that helped me with much

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How hard do you actually work on yourself and the issues the therapists bring up. A couple bad therapists is one thing. Multiple therapists and none helping usually means the problem lies with you.


Therapists don't actually do anything. It isn't surprising that they aren't going to help.


Well I had a therapist who was quite helpful so there are some good ones out there.
Same here


My work with my therapist was life saving as changing for me and I dare say my kids lives too regarding how I parent
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2025 09:15     Subject: Re:I’ve never had a therapist that helped me with much

Anonymous wrote:I'm just hopeful that at some point AI or other tech tools will check actual brain changes to see if these therapists are helping in any way.


Totally. Most aren’t but are too addicted to the bank roll to stop. It’s a shameful profession in many ways
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2025 09:14     Subject: Re:I’ve never had a therapist that helped me with much

Anonymous wrote:My DH and I are on our third marriage therapist and she’s been significantly more impactful for us than the other two combined. She is also the one we have paid OOP for. Worth every penny.


This is the dumbest phrase ever and my guess is you’re a therapist 🤣